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  1. 04-23-2009 09:05 PM #241
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    Quote Originally Posted by PonceDeLeon View Post
    I always wondered why so many truckstops sell beer. If it isn't against the law then it's surely against company rules.
    Most truckstops sell radar detectors too, which are illegal in CMV's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago View Post
    Most truckstops sell radar detectors too, which are illegal in CMV's.
    And the REG that forbids them is SO clear, simple and precise. One would think they could have done the same with alcohol.... IF they meant to prohibit its USE in the same clear manner.

    However, I noted that the reg says (paraphrased) that it is illegal to USE a radar detector in a CMV, or to OPERATE a CMV that is so equipped or has one on on board. It would appear that being PARKED and not operating either the CMV OR the detector would not preclude the actual "temporary" existence of one in the CMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matcat View Post
    I've actually seen it done! Dunno if you could call it a tailgate party, maybe bobtail party... but he wasn't bobtailed... at either rate it was some holiday, don't remember which, maybe new years... TMC Flatbedder had a keg on the back of his tractor, some folding chairs, and a flat screen TV playing some game, and a portable grill making weeners and hamburgers, about 15 different drivers all crowded around drinking and eating, right in a pilot if I remember correctly.

    Seen a similar type set-up at the TA in Las Vegas no bobtails involved - grilling, coolers of beer, boomboxes, and even some chics. To top it off the TA had a sign about no alcoholic beverages allowed on the premises

    It was hotter than pitch, I walked across the street to Bass Pro Shops Casino. Made my donations in the cheapest slots I could find, and had complimentary cold beers. Was one of the better restarts I have had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago View Post
    Most truckstops sell radar detectors too, which are illegal in CMV's.
    most truck stops are open to the general motoring public and RV groups. the argument could be made that they are the intended market for such items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by got mud? View Post
    most truck stops are open to the general motoring public and RV groups. the argument could be made that they are the intended market for such items.
    That argument could be made. It could also be made that the beer they sell is for the general motoring public and RV groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago View Post
    That argument could be made. It could also be made that the beer they sell is for the general motoring public and RV groups.
    agreed sir. considering most places (other than restaurants and bars) have a liquor license that is for "off premise " consumption only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by got mud? View Post
    agreed sir. considering most places (other than restaurants and bars) have a liquor license that is for "off premise " consumption only.
    I ALSO agree that the REV's point is valid. However, there are also truckstops with BARS inside them, and no truckers are "banned."

    Also, there are a few truckstops I've seen that have signs POSTED prohibiting the "consumption of alcoholic beverages" on the premises. These signs, BTW, are posted out in the parking lot amongst the TRUCKS.

    Seems as though that would be redundant IF there were a "standing" prohibition for truckers to consume alcohol in their trucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfhobo View Post
    I ALSO agree that the REV's point is valid. However, there are also truckstops with BARS inside them, and no truckers are "banned."
    In 12+ years of driving, I don't ever recall seeing a truckstop with a bar in it. Where is there such a place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago View Post
    In 12+ years of driving, I don't ever recall seeing a truckstop with a bar in it. Where is there such a place?
    If I recall correctly there is one on the east side of Yorktown, PA. There is also one in Kansas City. However, the one in KC now keeps the door locked between the store and the bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago View Post
    In 12+ years of driving, I don't ever recall seeing a truckstop with a bar in it. Where is there such a place?
    Yakima, WA. It's called the GearJammer. It's currently an Ambest affiliate and has a bar INSIDE the truckstop. There IS also an entrance from the parking lot, but also one from inside down a hallway past the video games.

    Also... The T/A in Portland, OR (can't remember the actual town name right now) it's just east of town on I-84 exit 17 or so. Right SMACK in the middle off the main hallway between the restaurant and the store. It's the Sports Bar I mentioned before. 5 or 6 T.V's and Karaoke on weekends.

    Then, there's Jubitz on the north side of Portland. Has a country/western bar in it with LIVE bands on weekends.

    The Little America in Wyoming has a SMALL bar (for truckers only.)

    I'm pretty sure I remember a few others, but not so well anymore... obviously. Been out of OTR too long!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago View Post
    In 12+ years of driving, I don't ever recall seeing a truckstop with a bar in it. Where is there such a place?
    1. Fernley Nevada. I can't remember which of the two, but I know one does.

    2. I think the 49'er in Sacramento serves beer in the restaurant. I'm pretty sure that's where I saw several drivers sitting at the counter, hoisting tall ones & telling lies last week. Your friend Floored could probably confirm or deny this one since she lives just down the road.

    3. The Rolling Hills Casino in Corning CA. The easiest parking and the nicest showers I've ever seen as well.

    Of course now you can get all semantic-y with me about what constitutes a "truck stop"
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    I forget what Flying J in SD has one... but I kicked a few back when snowed in.
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    I looked it up.... Troutdale is the one in Oregon. Been there many times, but couldn't remember the name.

    Also... the T/A in Mill City, NV has a bar inside. I'm thinking it goes by the same name as the one in Troutdale. Mr.B's, I think it was. Must be a CHAIN and probably has more locations in T/A's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago View Post
    In 12+ years of driving, I don't ever recall seeing a truckstop with a bar in it. Where is there such a place?

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    I think we have enough proof here to conclude that not ONLY is the REV wrong again but, that there is a good possibility he hasn't ACTUALLY been driving a truck for 12+ years!

    Either that or he is just a LOCAL wuss and has never actually BEEN OTR!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by golfhobo View Post
    I think we have enough proof here to conclude that not ONLY is the REV wrong again but, that there is a good possibility he hasn't ACTUALLY been driving a truck for 12+ years!

    Either that or he is just a LOCAL wuss and has never actually BEEN OTR!!
    Or perhaps I just don't frequent bars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago View Post
    Or perhaps I just don't frequent bars.
    Or pay attention to your surroundings.

    You know I was just razzin' ya. I'm quite sure that you don't frequent bars, so apparently you have missed the fact that they exist in many truckstops.

    Makes one wonder just what ELSE you have "missed" by seeing things from only your point of view, and calls into question the framework within which you "interpret" the regs.
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    I don't travel any of the areas that were mentioned, and have never visited any of those truck stops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago View Post
    I don't travel any of the areas that were mentioned, and have never visited any of those truck stops.
    Just a "hobby trucker" then, eh?
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