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    Default logging no no?

    I now run the same route 5 nights a week and am home from about 0200-1500 hrs.
    this is where the question comes in. I am logging this time on line 1 off duty. An other driver said thats wrong(I know I shouldn't listen but now worry about it) he said it should be logged on line 2 or I need a hotel reciept for DOT. I start logging and end at the same time and same location so it's evident that I must be home.

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    Line 1 - Off Duty
    My dispatcher wants to know why im not there yet, she says its only 2 inches away when she measured it on her map!

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    If you're at home why would you need a hotel receipt? There is nothing that says your off duty time has to be spent in a hotel.
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    Default Re: logging no no?

    Quote Originally Posted by repete
    I now run the same route 5 nights a week and am home from about 0200-1500 hrs.
    this is where the question comes in. I am logging this time on line 1 off duty. An other driver said thats wrong(I know I shouldn't listen but now worry about it) he said it should be logged on line 2 or I need a hotel reciept for DOT. I start logging and end at the same time and same location so it's evident that I must be home.
    (h)(1) Off duty. Except for time spent resting in a sleeper berth, a continuous line shall be drawn between the appropriate time markers to record the period(s) of time when the driver is not on duty, is not required to be in readiness to work, or is not under any responsibility for performing work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by repete
    I now run the same route 5 nights a week and am home from about 0200-1500 hrs.
    this is where the question comes in. I am logging this time on line 1 off duty. An other driver said thats wrong(I know I shouldn't listen but now worry about it) he said it should be logged on line 2 or I need a hotel reciept for DOT. I start logging and end at the same time and same location so it's evident that I must be home.
    I'm sure that same driver thinks you need white sheets, and DOT can give you a citation if your bed isn't made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by repete
    I now run the same route 5 nights a week and am home from about 0200-1500 hrs.
    this is where the question comes in. I am logging this time on line 1 off duty. An other driver said thats wrong(I know I shouldn't listen but now worry about it) he said it should be logged on line 2 or I need a hotel reciept for DOT. I start logging and end at the same time and same location so it's evident that I must be home.
    I'm sure that same driver thinks you need white sheets, and DOT can give you a citation if your bed isn't made.
    and dont forget, your pillow needs to be fluffed

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    OH-MAN, I'm in trouble now :shock: I've got blue sheets! What about the blanket?
    thanks for the info, I kina figuered off duty is off. I'm sure it would be different if I was still OTR

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    Quote Originally Posted by repete
    OH-MAN, I'm in trouble now :shock: I've got blue sheets! What about the blanket?
    thanks for the info, I kina figuered off duty is off. I'm sure it would be different if I was still OTR
    a Barney blanket is acceptable

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    While you logging "gurus" are "on duty" (not driving) I hope!,,,,,

    I have a quick question.

    What is the maximum number of hours allowed for driving during a 24 hour period?

    I know it sounds like a basic premise of HOS, but I just recently realized it isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creek Jackson
    While you logging "gurus" are "on duty" (not driving) I hope!,,,,,

    I have a quick question.

    What is the maximum number of hours allowed for driving during a 24 hour period?

    I know it sounds like a basic premise of HOS, but I just recently realized it isn't.
    you can be on duty for 14 hours out if which you can drive for 11 hours, then you must have 10 hours rest, so the maximum time you could drive during a 24 hour period would be 11 hours

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    13.75 the 10 hour break resets the clock for you and you have your next 11 to use. Under the old 10 and 8 there were plenty of days I did 15.75 as long as I had that 8 hours in between shifts DOT boys said I was fine. Trouble is you will fry your hours faster than Rosy Odonnell gets fired from the View.

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    you can be on duty for 14 hours out if which you can drive for 11 hours, then you must have 10 hours rest, so the maximum time you could drive during a 24 hour period would be 11 hours
    Ahh trucker math and a lack of understanding of the HOS. :P

    It would be no more than 13.5 hours in most situations. (Figuring 2 vehicle inspections during that time).
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    Now what exactly is trucker math?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creek Jackson
    While you logging "gurus" are "on duty" (not driving) I hope!,,,,,

    I have a quick question.

    What is the maximum number of hours allowed for driving during a 24 hour period?

    I know it sounds like a basic premise of HOS, but I just recently realized it isn't.
    Midnight until 11 am driving = 11 hours
    11 am until 9 pm sleeper berth = 10 hours
    9 pm until midnight driving = 3 hours

    Theoretically, 14 hours, but that isn't going to happen in the real world.

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    without having to load or unload, you will have to pre tip.
    That is going to cost one half hour, depending on your tank size, you might have to fuel, there goes half hour more.
    The only way to get out of that one, Is to fuel and pt at the same time.

    the way it is you can not steel from the ten off, but you can from the three on duty.

    twenty is more like it.

    The rev forgot to pre trip twice so his 14 is in all reality going to be 13
    the light is on come back when i am home

    if you aim at nothing that is just what you will hit

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullhauler
    without having to load or unload, you will have to pre tip.
    In theory, you could have done a pre-trip at 11:45 pm, and started driving at 12:00 am. That eliminates one pretrip right there.

    That is going to cost one half hour, depending on your tank size, you might have to fuel, there goes half hour more.
    You're assuming fueling is necessary.

    The rev forgot to pre trip twice so his 14 is in all reality going to be 13
    Didn't forget anything. I purposely left them out. But in the interest of fairness, here's a best case scenario for a single day.

    11:45pm - 12:00 am = pre trip, tanks are full
    12:00 am - 11:00 am = 11 hours driving
    11:00 am - 9:00 pm = 10 hours sleeper berth
    9:00 pm - 9:15 pm = pre trip
    9:15 pm - 12:00 am = 2 hours, 45 minutes driving

    Total driving time: 13 hours, 45 minutes.

    The real question should be: Why would anyone want to drive 13 hours, 45 minutes in a single day?

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    In theory, you could have done a pre-trip at 11:45 pm, and started driving at 12:00 am. That eliminates one pre-trip right there.

    so now your day is twenty four and a quarter long.

    You're assuming fueling is necessary.

    never had a truck run without yet.

    Didn't forget anything. I purposely left them out. But in the interest of fairness, here's a best case scenario for a single day.

    nice one. try telling that to the scale master.

    seventy two point pre trip in 15 Min's that's refreshing
    the light is on come back when i am home

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullhauler
    In theory, you could have done a pre-trip at 11:45 pm, and started driving at 12:00 am. That eliminates one pre-trip right there.

    so now your day is twenty four and a quarter long.

    You're assuming fueling is necessary.

    never had a truck run without yet.

    Didn't forget anything. I purposely left them out. But in the interest of fairness, here's a best case scenario for a single day.

    nice one. try telling that to the scale master.

    seventy two point pre trip in 15 Min's that's refreshing
    Learn to quote, please. Also, learn what "best case scenario" and "theory" mean.

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    I was thinking 24 hr period,,, that is any 24 hour period, does not have to begin or end with the date change.

    So 13.5 hours, drive 6.75 off 10, drive 6.75, but I guess 13 would be closer to reality with fueling. And as one said you would use up your total hours rapidly and probably wear your ass out quickly.
    Remember,,,,,,, If you eat a live frog first thing every morning, you can rest assured it will likely be the worst thing you will have to do all day.

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    the light is on come back when i am home

    if you aim at nothing that is just what you will hit

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