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Thread: 3 DUI over 15 years old - trouble for inexperienced driver?

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    Default 3 DUI over 15 years old - trouble for inexperienced driver?

    I am considering a new career in trucking, but seem to have run into a snag. I have DUI's in MN... '83, '84, and '92. I am being told by a few large companies that they won't touch hiring me out of school, despite the fact that these offenses are 15 years old and I have been sober during this time. One company said I might be considered after one year experience with a smaller company who might be more inclined to hire someone in my situation, but still no guarantee.

    I am curious if anyone has any feedback for me as I am very interested, and serious, about becoming a truck driver. Do you know if it's possible to have such offenses removed from your driving record? Maybe you have a recommendation about which companies are more apt to consider my situation?

    I am very frustrated because I have been excited about getting started down a new road, but now I kinda seem to have major engine trouble! I have yet to make arrangements for school, and I am not going to do that, obviously, if I am wasting my time and money.

    Any advise and response is appreciated.

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    You are going to have trouble with MOST major and non-major companies. Most companies will accept 1 DUI as long as it's 5 or 7 years old, but usually more than 1 is going to be a permanent bar on you.

    The thought process is if you didn't learn once, why would someone think you learned after 2 or 3? Right or wrong, that's the way it is. If someone hires you and God forbid, you have a relapse and get drunk and in an accident, that company might as well just hand the victims a blank check and the ownership papers. No company out there is going to be willing to gamble on a multi-DUI driver, regardless of how long ago it was.

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    Yeah, I can understand where you are coming from. I am just very disappointed that I have learned this now, after getting all excited about the prospect of a new job in trucking. Thanks for your reply TF.

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    The industry is under an ever-strengthening microscope these days. Companies are getting tighter and tighter on their qualifications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
    The industry is under an ever-strengthening microscope these days. Companies are getting tighter and tighter on their qualifications.
    Its the companys insurance that are very tight ,I think being sober all these years should be concidered but in our sue happy society companys cant take a chance because if you had a accident even though it wasnt your falt a lawyer would use those 3 dui s against you and you company.
    fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
    The industry is under an ever-strengthening microscope these days. Companies are getting tighter and tighter on their qualifications.
    If that's the case, why are there so many idiots out there? :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379
    Quote Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
    The industry is under an ever-strengthening microscope these days. Companies are getting tighter and tighter on their qualifications.
    If that's the case, why are there so many idiots out there? :P
    You can have a clean MVR, no DUIs, and no criminal past and still be an idiot :P
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    Yeah, I know. :P

    You cant fix stupidity. :P

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    you may not be able to get a OTR job. Try your local dump truck outfits. I know i drive a dump truck now. They didnt even run my driving record. Most likely you make more then OTR anyway uinless you live in the sticks where dump drivers get 9/hr
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    Default Re: 3 DUI over 15 years old - trouble for inexperienced driv

    They only run the DMV for 5, or 10 years. I would recommend not disclosing it. FWIW, you are better off working at a small company. Screw the large companies, you will just be meat in the seat.

    Quote Originally Posted by riffraff04
    I am considering a new career in trucking, but seem to have run into a snag. I have DUI's in MN... '83, '84, and '92. I am being told by a few large companies that they won't touch hiring me out of school, despite the fact that these offenses are 15 years old and I have been sober during this time. One company said I might be considered after one year experience with a smaller company who might be more inclined to hire someone in my situation, but still no guarantee.

    I am curious if anyone has any feedback for me as I am very interested, and serious, about becoming a truck driver. Do you know if it's possible to have such offenses removed from your driving record? Maybe you have a recommendation about which companies are more apt to consider my situation?

    I am very frustrated because I have been excited about getting started down a new road, but now I kinda seem to have major engine trouble! I have yet to make arrangements for school, and I am not going to do that, obviously, if I am wasting my time and money.

    Any advise and response is appreciated.

    Save travels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379
    Yeah, I know. :P

    You cant fix stupidity. :P
    You can rehabilitate a drunkard. You can't make a stupid person smart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
    The industry is under an ever-strengthening microscope these days. Companies are getting tighter and tighter on their qualifications.
    And tighter on their purse strings too, as evidenced by stagnant or regressing rates and wages.
    If you can't shift it smoothly, you shouldn't be driving it.

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    Default Re: 3 DUI over 15 years old - trouble for inexperienced driv

    Quote Originally Posted by mbadriver
    They only run the DMV for 5, or 10 years. I would recommend not disclosing it. FWIW, you are better off working at a small company. Screw the large companies, you will just be meat in the seat.
    The problem with that logic is that DUI convictions show up on criminal records in a lot of states. Typically a DUI is a misdemeanor conviction and a repeated DUI can go to a felony.
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    You can go to the DMV and fill out a history request form. Not sure what it is but once filled out and sent back in anything older then 10years is removed form the DMV record. Big Dog Kicks
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    Not sure what it is but once filled out and sent back in anything older then 10years is removed form the DMV record.
    Depends completely on the state. State records generally vary between 3, 5, 7, and 10 and some of them are called forever states. Missouri, Pennsyvlania, and Massachussets all keep their records on file forever.

    There is no way to get something (especially serious issues like DUIs) removed from your MVR without getting a lawyer to get it removed and there's no guarantee that even that would work.

    3 DUI's is a killer. Not disclosing will do you no good...it will come up either on the MVR or criminal history report.

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    You should really check out the law. I DID IT ALL BY MYSELF.. I do not mean to yell but i get angry when i am told i can't do something i have already done... Please call your local DMV and ask them.. Big Dog Kicks 8)
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    Are you talking to me? :?

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    And if your a drunk why would you even consider driving... Be smart and find out if you can stop the drinking.. Each State is different and yes I can over react sometimes. But if you have decided this is the right type of job. Then stop pulling that trigger and toss the gun to you head out the window. BOOZ in any form can only harm you. What

    Someone asked me last week what i do for a livin i said I am a freight re-location expert and a customer service agent.. Big Dog Kicks :shock:
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdgardner963
    You should really check out the law. I DID IT ALL BY MYSELF.. I do not mean to yell but i get angry when i am told i can't do something i have already done... Please call your local DMV and ask them.. Big Dog Kicks 8)
    More states are listing DUI's as CRIMINAL acts and therefor are listed on your CRIMINAL record. I looked up MN and even the first offense for DUI is a misdemeanor CRIME. It also is a driving offense.

    Minnesota DWI / DUI law is similar to the drunk driving laws of other states, in that every Minnesota DWI arrest triggers two separate cases: a criminal court case, where a variety of drunk driving punishment is sought, and a Minnesota Department of Public Safety case, where your Minnesota driving privileges are affected.
    So while it may fall off his driving record after 10 years, his criminal background check will always show 3 DUI convictions. And most companies pull a criminal history alonfg with a driving history. The only way to get that off would be to hire an attorney and get it expunged. But I highly doubt there is a judge in this country willing to have 3 DUI convictions expunged. Especially when they were spaced 9 years apart.
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    I live in California its a a infraction as well i must check on it. Tho the point is made. On the DMV side yes it can be removed i am not sure how else its handled. 8)
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