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    Default HOLY COW!! Take a look at THIS!!!

    $150,000 fine to a Ramco Distributors, Inc for selling so-called "10 Meter 'Amateur' Radios! :shock:

    Before the Federal Communications Commission Washington, D.C. 20554 ) In the Matter of ) File No. EB-06-SE-124 Ramko Distributors, Inc. ) NAL/Acct. No. 200732100023 Toledo, Ohio ) FRN: 0016293854 ) NOTICE OF APPARENT LIABILITY FOR FORFEITURE Adopted: March 30, 2007 Released: March 30, 2007 By the Commission: I. introduction 1. In this Notice of Apparent Liability for Forfeiture ("NAL"), we find Ramko Distributors, Inc. ("Ramko") apparently liable for marketing 17 models of non-certified radio transceivers, in apparent willful and repeated violation of Section 302(b) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended ("Act"), and Section 2.803 of the Commission's Rules ("Rules"). The subject devices are neither Commission authorized, nor eligible for such authorization. Based on the facts and circumstances before us, we conclude that Ramko is apparently liable for a forfeiture in the amount of one hundred fifty thousand dollars ($150,000). II. background 2. Section 302 of the Act authorizes the Commission to make reasonable regulations, consistent with the public interest, governing the interference potential of equipment that emits radio frequency energy, and prohibits, among other things, the offering for sale of radio frequency devices to the extent that such activity does not comply with these regulations. The purpose of this section is to ensure that radio transmitters and other electronic devices meet certain standards to control interference before they reach the market. Specifically, Section 302(b) of the Act provides that "[n]o person shall manufacture, import, sell, offer for sale, or ship devices or home electronic equipment and systems, or use devices, which fail to comply with regulations promulgated pursuant to this section." Section 2.803(a)(1) of the Commission's implementing regulations provides that: Except as provided elsewhere in this section, no person shall sell or lease, or offer for sale or lease (including advertising for sale or lease), or import, ship, or distribute for the purpose of selling or leasing or offering for sale or lease, any radio frequency device unless ... [i]n the case of a device that is subject to certification, such device has been authorized by the Commission in accordance with the rules in this chapter and is properly identified and labeled as required by S 2.925 and other relevant sections in this chapter. In addition, Section 2.803(g) of the Rules provides that: [R]adio frequency devices that could not be operated or legally authorized under the current rules ... shall not be operated, advertised, displayed, offered for sale or lease, sold or leased, or otherwise marketed .......................

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    For the rest of the story (if interested), go to www.fcc.gov/eb and scroll down to Ramco Distributors. This the latest salvo in the on-going effort by FCC to stop the illegal purchase, use, and the "bootlegging" that has occurred on the 10 Meter band (and below on 26 MHZ)


    Stay Safe.

    RR

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg3564

    I second that......
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    I'm going to get 1 just to tick you off.

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    All yall that run those big Galaxy, Connex radios, better watch out, the big boys are out on the warpath. :P

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    Oh, Lord!! Here we go again!!

    Ray, go find someone who gives a rat's ass!!

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    I'm still not giving up my Ranger!!!
    My dispatcher wants to know why im not there yet, she says its only 2 inches away when she measured it on her map!

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    I built a crystal radio set for my electronics class decades ago. Does that count? 8)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
    I built a crystal radio set for my electronics class decades ago. Does that count? 8)
    Can you reach pluto with that?
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    Naw, just the third moon of Saturn.

    Then the FCC came in and shut me down, used alien technology to wipe by memory, and billed me for $1.98 in memory storage fees. I'm still fighting the fine in court.

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    Default Re: HOLY COW!! Take a look at THIS!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by RadioRay
    $150,000 fine to a Ramco Distributors, Inc for selling so-called "10 Meter 'Amateur' Radios! :shock:

    Before the Federal Communications Commission Washington, D.C. 20554 ) In the Matter of ) File No. EB-06-SE-124 Ramko Distributors, Inc. ) NAL/Acct. No. 200732100023 Toledo, Ohio ) FRN: 0016293854 ) NOTICE OF APPARENT LIABILITY FOR FORFEITURE Adopted: March 30, 2007 Released: March 30, 2007 By the Commission: I. introduction 1. In this Notice of Apparent Liability for Forfeiture ("NAL"), we find Ramko Distributors, Inc. ("Ramko") apparently liable for marketing 17 models of non-certified radio transceivers, in apparent willful and repeated violation of Section 302(b) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended ("Act"), and Section 2.803 of the Commission's Rules ("Rules"). The subject devices are neither Commission authorized, nor eligible for such authorization. Based on the facts and circumstances before us, we conclude that Ramko is apparently liable for a forfeiture in the amount of one hundred fifty thousand dollars ($150,000). II. background 2. Section 302 of the Act authorizes the Commission to make reasonable regulations, consistent with the public interest, governing the interference potential of equipment that emits radio frequency energy, and prohibits, among other things, the offering for sale of radio frequency devices to the extent that such activity does not comply with these regulations. The purpose of this section is to ensure that radio transmitters and other electronic devices meet certain standards to control interference before they reach the market. Specifically, Section 302(b) of the Act provides that "[n]o person shall manufacture, import, sell, offer for sale, or ship devices or home electronic equipment and systems, or use devices, which fail to comply with regulations promulgated pursuant to this section." Section 2.803(a)(1) of the Commission's implementing regulations provides that: Except as provided elsewhere in this section, no person shall sell or lease, or offer for sale or lease (including advertising for sale or lease), or import, ship, or distribute for the purpose of selling or leasing or offering for sale or lease, any radio frequency device unless ... [i]n the case of a device that is subject to certification, such device has been authorized by the Commission in accordance with the rules in this chapter and is properly identified and labeled as required by S 2.925 and other relevant sections in this chapter. In addition, Section 2.803(g) of the Rules provides that: [R]adio frequency devices that could not be operated or legally authorized under the current rules ... shall not be operated, advertised, displayed, offered for sale or lease, sold or leased, or otherwise marketed .......................

    ************************************************** ***********

    For the rest of the story (if interested), go to www.fcc.gov/eb and scroll down to Ramco Distributors. This the latest salvo in the on-going effort by FCC to stop the illegal purchase, use, and the "bootlegging" that has occurred on the 10 Meter band (and below on 26 MHZ)


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    Jumbo, in a nutshell, it's about stopping the illegal use of so-called "10 Meter" radios(also illegal to sell in the USA) on CB frequencies AND on other frequencies for which license or authorization is required. Specifically, 28 MHZ frequencies (10 Meters) AND those below 26.965 MHZ (Channel 1) are illegal and not allowed to be used; these frequencies (channels) are ASSIGNED to others.

    So, FCC has been issuing stiff fines to dealers who sell these radios AND CBers who use them as well (See Larry Duckworth, Cordele, Ga--$10,000 fine). Drivers (all users of CB) are required to remain on the 40 CB frequencies as per Part 95, Title 47, US Code, and refrain from using amplifiers which cause interference to other radio services.




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    So they are selling radios that come in a nut shell and I can buy one from a guy in Georgia from a guy named Harry Duck for $10,000. I understand now.
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    Got 1, with NO LICENSE, Will be installing it in my truck in 4 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumbo
    So they are selling radios that come in a nut shell and I can buy one from a guy in Georgia from a guy named Harry Duck for $10,000. I understand now.
    ?????????? No, but the fine can run that much if caught. AND they CAN locate and fine you whether you are mobile or not. :shock: Ain't computers wonderful?

    Mr D was a base station that was interfering with neighbors' electronics. HE took the same attitude that some radio people do, so the Feds paid him a visit. They took his radio and 250 watt amp and wrote him a warning ticket. What does he do? He goes out and buys one of those Galaxy 10 Meter radios wid all the 'extree' channels AND a 2,500 watt amp almost before the ink was dry on his original citation!!! :P ("Ah'll show them Feds jist how big and bad a reddio man ah am"). So the agent(s) return, confiscate his NEW radio and amp, then issue him a $10,000 fine! :shock: Payable in full in 30 days! :shock: Eventually, upon
    providing tax returns proving he COULDN'T pay that much, the fine was reduced to $2500. But based on the info provided, I would expect $2500 would HAVE to smart some!! www.fcc.gov/eb

    Like I heard the FCC Special Counsel say at an Amateur Radio seminar, "You can't regulate stoopid" so if people are determined to break the law, they will. Sooner or later they will be caught!!! If you think back a few years, FCC fines and seizures against CB operators was almost nil. People scoffed and said such things as "They don't care about CB no more". Or "FCC's got better things to do than to mess with truckers (talking on 28 MHZ)". "They'll NEVER come after ME"! And finally,
    "Hey, I'm mobile so they can't catch me!" HA! That $125,000 fine against Pilot, others against TA and Petro, Ramko for $150,000 says different. So sooner or later, it *could* be YOU!! :shock: It will take some time, that's true. BUT! Don't think for a minute that there aren't people actively seeking to have "10 Meter" radios and amps BANNED from commercial trucks---just like radar detectors! Little by little, people get braver and braver and start creeping not only onto the 10 Meter band, but slipping closer and closer down to frequencies that ARE used and monitored by the US military---like that 26.735 frequency that is, again, against the law. Yet drivers use that everyday illegally on their hopped up, over-modulated, over-powered rigs, spilling over on 3 MHZ of radio space. So the legal guys up at FCC are working to make it come to pass (banning illegal '10 Meter' in commercial trucks). It's coming, slowly but surely; the more the operators slide up and down AWAY from the 40 channels, the more likely this is to come true.



    Drive safe!!

    RR

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    [quote="RadioRay"]"Hey, I'm mobile so they can't catch me!" HA! That $125,000 fine against Pilot, others against TA and Petro, Ramko for $150,000 says different.

    Oh Great, Now they have mobile truck stops, how am i going to know where to get fuel at?
    My dispatcher wants to know why im not there yet, she says its only 2 inches away when she measured it on her map!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RadioRay
    ...AND a 2,500 watt amp...
    Dang- surprised PETA and the USDA didn't get a piece of him- had to be frying anything within throwing distance of his antenna! :shock:

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    [quote="Crash935"]
    Quote Originally Posted by RadioRay
    "Hey, I'm mobile so they can't catch me!" HA! That $125,000 fine against Pilot, others against TA and Petro, Ramko for $150,000 says different.

    Oh Great, Now they have mobile truck stops, how am i going to know where to get fuel at?
    Well, they have inflight refueling......................... Why not trucks? :wink: j/k (KC-10 tanker is pretty awesome, tho--best view in the house at 30,000 feet!)

    RR

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    so basically someone was messing with the big radio and it screwed up radio rays porn so called the fcc and he called and he called until they came out and took down the big radio ring. now ray is on a mission and he wont stop until he finds all big radios and shuts them down.
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