TWO CBers slapped with $10,000 fines! Are truckers NEXT?

[ssoutlaw]

Tell me something. To you the use of 'extra' channels is not important. This is simply a common thought among the CB hobbiests, and that is because they feel that 1) it doesn't cause trouble (because they are not trained to KNOWthe harm it causes and 2) they feel that
they are so important (CB and trucking)--more so than any OTHER segment, that it excuses their activity. IOW, *I* drive trucks, this is the ONLY way to move freight, so my use of the radio supercedes any other users' privileges or needs. That's NOT an insult, but it pretty well sums up the attitude that prevails these days, not just in the CB hobby or trucking, but in society itself. We have become an *I* society. There's none of the respect there used to be in much of anything these days--not even for human life. I would never thought that 12 y/o kids would be SHOOTING each other, much less bringing guns into the schools. I am thankful that I got to SEE those "Ozzie & Harriet" days of the 50's and early 60's.

Yes, there SHOULD be more emphasis on other matters such as war, hunger, taxes, et al. But what seems to be a trivial thing WRT the illegal use of those radios is a symptom of deeper issues that are at the root of those problems as well. Tell me: how would you like it if it were legal for someone to just walk right into your house, make himself at home, and eat your groceries? Or go into your shed and take your tools, and there was nothing you could do about it. Say, perhaps, the law was reversed in favor of the criminal, and they would put YOU in jail for trying to stop the theft? :shock: You wouldn't LIKE it, now WOULD you?
Bu-bu-bu-bu............that's "different", you say! HOW? Laws are designed to, basically, reward the good citizen and punish the criminal, and it varies by degrees of culpability. Sure, they ain't perfect, but what would life be withOUT them? Without those laws, YOU couldn't hold onto your rightful property, and the rightful users of radio spectrum would not be able to use privileges they EARNED by FOLLOWING the SAME laws that you and I as a citizen are morally and legally obligated to obey whether it be physical things or radio spectrum. We appoint, designate Representatives to go to our Statehouses and Congress and make laws that protect ALL of us. Those Reps assign agencies and commitees who bring on board people who are expert in varios fields in order to craft laws that pertain to society. With radio, it's FCC that Congress delegated this responsibility, and within it, there are ELECTRONICS and LEGAL
experts that determine how to regulate radio. We may not LIKE the laws, but we can get them changed. Still these people usually know FAR more than WE do about "WHY" we are not to use various frequencies or "channels". WE simply are NOT qualified to make that judgement. ("I don't see why I can't talk on that channel", etc) *I* am just SO much more important than they are :wink: , and they should just overlook my talking on them other channels. NO, if you want the same privileges, you RESPECT the law, STUDY the rules and theory (so you will understand WHAT and HOW), and take the test to EARN those privileges.
Yet at the same, some of us gripe at, belittle the licensed folks as if THEY don't count while WE would scream bloody murder if we found someone out in our shed taking OUR possessions! :evil: But WAIT, you say! Them 'channels' ain't property you can "own"! Yes and no! Those licensed folks EARNED permission to USE those bands in almost the same sense of a lease! They may USE, 'hold', and keep those frequencies so long as they obey the terms of their license--same as a lease!~ Those who intrude are criminals, tho, yes, it varies by degrees of culpability. And they will pay the price.............sooner or later.
For the LEGITIMATE users, it ain't soon enough!!!!

:twisted:

RR

I say feeding the people in this world who have no food is more important to me and others than your cause! I say educating the children is more important than your cause. I say affordable medical attention for every citizen of this country, and for that fact the rest of the world, is more important than YOUR cause! Why don't you use your campaign skills for something that will help the rest of the world and not just your self! I guess to you its OK to prosecute the fetching of the 10 meter band, yet you turn a deaf ear to the problems which really need attention NOW.
What you are doing is taking the so to say, top 1 million things humanity needs to change, and wanting the bottom of the list thing to be made number 1, go figure? You are still on the wrong forum for your cause!

[Fredog]

Tell me something. To you the use of 'extra' channels is not important. This is simply a common thought among the CB hobbiests, and that is because they feel that 1) it doesn't cause trouble (because they are not trained to KNOWthe harm it causes and 2) they feel that
they are so important (CB and trucking)--more so than any OTHER segment, that it excuses their activity. IOW, *I* drive trucks, this is the ONLY way to move freight, so my use of the radio supercedes any other users' privileges or needs. That's NOT an insult, but it pretty well sums up the attitude that prevails these days, not just in the CB hobby or trucking, but in society itself. We have become an *I* society. There's none of the respect there used to be in much of anything these days--not even for human life. I would never thought that 12 y/o kids would be SHOOTING each other, much less bringing guns into the schools. I am thankful that I got to SEE those "Ozzie & Harriet" days of the 50's and early 60's.

Yes, there SHOULD be more emphasis on other matters such as war, hunger, taxes, et al. But what seems to be a trivial thing WRT the illegal use of those radios is a symptom of deeper issues that are at the root of those problems as well. Tell me: how would you like it if it were legal for someone to just walk right into your house, make himself at home, and eat your groceries? Or go into your shed and take your tools, and there was nothing you could do about it. Say, perhaps, the law was reversed in favor of the criminal, and they would put YOU in jail for trying to stop the theft? :shock: You wouldn't LIKE it, now WOULD you?
Bu-bu-bu-bu............that's "different", you say! HOW? Laws are designed to, basically, reward the good citizen and punish the criminal, and it varies by degrees of culpability. Sure, they ain't perfect, but what would life be withOUT them? Without those laws, YOU couldn't hold onto your rightful property, and the rightful users of radio spectrum would not be able to use privileges they EARNED by FOLLOWING the SAME laws that you and I as a citizen are morally and legally obligated to obey whether it be physical things or radio spectrum. We appoint, designate Representatives to go to our Statehouses and Congress and make laws that protect ALL of us. Those Reps assign agencies and commitees who bring on board people who are expert in varios fields in order to craft laws that pertain to society. With radio, it's FCC that Congress delegated this responsibility, and within it, there are ELECTRONICS and LEGAL
experts that determine how to regulate radio. We may not LIKE the laws, but we can get them changed. Still these people usually know FAR more than WE do about "WHY" we are not to use various frequencies or "channels". WE simply are NOT qualified to make that judgement. ("I don't see why I can't talk on that channel", etc) *I* am just SO much more important than they are :wink: , and they should just overlook my talking on them other channels. NO, if you want the same privileges, you RESPECT the law, STUDY the rules and theory (so you will understand WHAT and HOW), and take the test to EARN those privileges.
Yet at the same, some of us gripe at, belittle the licensed folks as if THEY don't count while WE would scream bloody murder if we found someone out in our shed taking OUR possessions! :evil: But WAIT, you say! Them 'channels' ain't property you can "own"! Yes and no! Those licensed folks EARNED permission to USE those bands in almost the same sense of a lease! They may USE, 'hold', and keep those frequencies so long as they obey the terms of their license--same as a lease!~ Those who intrude are criminals, tho, yes, it varies by degrees of culpability. And they will pay the price.............sooner or later.
For the LEGITIMATE users, it ain't soon enough!!!!

:twisted:

RR

you are very good at convoluted logic, you should run for president. I would vote for you.

[RadioRay]

I say feeding the people in this world who have no food is more important to me and others than your cause! I say educating the children is more important than your cause. I say affordable medical attention for every citizen of this country, and for that fact the rest of the world, is more important than YOUR cause! Why don't you use your campaign skills for something that will help the rest of the world and not just your self! I guess to you its OK to prosecute the fetching of the 10 meter band, yet you turn a deaf ear to the problems which really need attention NOW.
What you are doing is taking the so to say, top 1 million things humanity needs to change, and wanting the bottom of the list thing to be made number 1, go figure? You are still on the wrong forum for your cause!
************************************************** ***********
It's not a "cause". It is just information.

Are the truckers yapping on 10 Meters thinking about hungry children?
Are they thinking about medical care? Maybe THEIR aches and pains! All I hear them going on about is, "this blankety-blank 4-wheeler", or that "*&^%$ dispatcher", or that f*&^% customer that's so hard to get unloaded at. Are they thinking about the problems of the world? No. Mostly yapping about the old lady they just divorced.

So, YES! I HOPE they nail them to the wall with their ILLEGAL "10 Meter radios", their over-powered, snipped and clipped, beeped and squeaked, muffled modulation crap. And, YES, there are things being encouraged on FCC and Congress to stop this THEFT! That band is assigned to others, PERIOD. And, frankly, the problems of the whole world are totally separate from this issue. Like the radar detectors listed in the FMC handbook, we hope to see these radios BANNED from commercial trucks and stiff FINES issues to those who USE them. Particularly on the licensed frequencies. If you think they DON'T care and nothing will be done, just look back at the FCC notices I have posted here! It is only a small SAMPLE of what has been done before and what will be coming up.
Drivers may, of course, scoff, but do so at the risk of coughing up some $$. Just a matter of time. And "dem low side 'channels' aren't safe anymore, either! :twisted:

RR

[ssoutlaw]

I say feeding the people in this world who have no food is more important to me and others than your cause! I say educating the children is more important than your cause. I say affordable medical attention for every citizen of this country, and for that fact the rest of the world, is more important than YOUR cause! Why don't you use your campaign skills for something that will help the rest of the world and not just your self! I guess to you its OK to prosecute the fetching of the 10 meter band, yet you turn a deaf ear to the problems which really need attention NOW.
What you are doing is taking the so to say, top 1 million things humanity needs to change, and wanting the bottom of the list thing to be made number 1, go figure? You are still on the wrong forum for your cause!
************************************************** ***********
It's not a "cause". It is just information.

Are the truckers yapping on 10 Meters thinking about hungry children?
Are they thinking about medical care? Maybe THEIR aches and pains! All I hear them going on about is, "this blankety-blank 4-wheeler", or that "*&^%$ dispatcher", or that f*&^% customer that's so hard to get unloaded at. Are they thinking about the problems of the world? No. Mostly yapping about the old lady they just divorced.

So, YES! I HOPE they nail them to the wall with their ILLEGAL "10 Meter radios", their over-powered, snipped and clipped, beeped and squeaked, muffled modulation crap. And, YES, there are things being encouraged on FCC and Congress to stop this THEFT! That band is assigned to others, PERIOD. And, frankly, the problems of the whole world are totally separate from this issue. Like the radar detectors listed in the FMC handbook, we hope to see these radios BANNED from commercial trucks and stiff FINES issues to those who USE them. Particularly on the licensed frequencies. If you think they DON'T care and nothing will be done, just look back at the FCC notices I have posted here! It is only a small SAMPLE of what has been done before and what will be coming up.
Drivers may, of course, scoff, but do so at the risk of coughing up some $$. Just a matter of time. And "dem low side 'channels' aren't safe anymore, either! :twisted:

RR

Your pathetic.

[Fredog]

I say feeding the people in this world who have no food is more important to me and others than your cause! I say educating the children is more important than your cause. I say affordable medical attention for every citizen of this country, and for that fact the rest of the world, is more important than YOUR cause! Why don't you use your campaign skills for something that will help the rest of the world and not just your self! I guess to you its OK to prosecute the fetching of the 10 meter band, yet you turn a deaf ear to the problems which really need attention NOW.
What you are doing is taking the so to say, top 1 million things humanity needs to change, and wanting the bottom of the list thing to be made number 1, go figure? You are still on the wrong forum for your cause!
************************************************** ***********
It's not a "cause". It is just information.

Are the truckers yapping on 10 Meters thinking about hungry children?
Are they thinking about medical care? Maybe THEIR aches and pains! All I hear them going on about is, "this blankety-blank 4-wheeler", or that "*&^%$ dispatcher", or that f*&^% customer that's so hard to get unloaded at. Are they thinking about the problems of the world? No. Mostly yapping about the old lady they just divorced.

So, YES! I HOPE they nail them to the wall with their ILLEGAL "10 Meter radios", their over-powered, snipped and clipped, beeped and squeaked, muffled modulation crap. And, YES, there are things being encouraged on FCC and Congress to stop this THEFT! That band is assigned to others, PERIOD. And, frankly, the problems of the whole world are totally separate from this issue. Like the radar detectors listed in the FMC handbook, we hope to see these radios BANNED from commercial trucks and stiff FINES issues to those who USE them. Particularly on the licensed frequencies. If you think they DON'T care and nothing will be done, just look back at the FCC notices I have posted here! It is only a small SAMPLE of what has been done before and what will be coming up.
Drivers may, of course, scoff, but do so at the risk of coughing up some $$. Just a matter of time. And "dem low side 'channels' aren't safe anymore, either! :twisted:

RR

just curious, why are you on the low channels if no one is supposed to talk there? why wouldnt you be on a channel where you could talk with other "legimate" users?

[RadioRay]

I got that info from certain "friends" within FCC. This came about as a result of discussing the 10 Meter problem. The thing is, FCC knows that the CB denizens will not be satisfied with anything. IOW, they HAVE 40 distinct channels, the majority of which are QUIET most of the time.
Then they showed up on 10 Meters, sometimes as high as 29.600 MHZ. THAT wasn't enough, either. So they are now BELOW CB and there is no reason to expect they will not continue to migrate DOWNWARDS. *I* don't talk on 26.735 at all; I'm just relaying the info I got. I listened to drivers down there--that's all.

There are NO-EXTRA-CHANNELS anywhere that will not have potential to get you a BIG fine! :twisted: Those 26 MHZ frequencies are assigned to remote relay stations, used for data transmission and control links. The US military has assignments there as well. Just because YOU don't hear something doesn't mean that somebody isn't hearing YOU! I am merely giving you the facts: Civilians do not have authority to be operating down there, it is strictly illegal. That's all.


RR

[jnk2001]

I got that info from certain "friends" within FCC. This came about as a result of discussing the 10 Meter problem. The thing is, FCC knows that the CB denizens will not be satisfied with anything. IOW, they HAVE 40 distinct channels, the majority of which are QUIET most of the time.
Then they showed up on 10 Meters, sometimes as high as 29.600 MHZ. THAT wasn't enough, either. So they are now BELOW CB and there is no reason to expect they will not continue to migrate DOWNWARDS. *I* don't talk on 26.735 at all; I'm just relaying the info I got. I listened to drivers down there--that's all.

There are NO-EXTRA-CHANNELS anywhere that will not have potential to get you a BIG fine! :twisted: Those 26 MHZ frequencies are assigned to remote relay stations, used for data transmission and control links. The US military has assignments there as well. Just because YOU don't hear something doesn't mean that somebody isn't hearing YOU! I am merely giving you the facts: Civilians do not have authority to be operating down there, it is strictly illegal. That's all.


RR

RR you have WAY too much time on your hands....

[RadioRay]

RR you have WAY too much time on your hands.... (quote)

I earned it! :wink: Now if those radio rambos would earn the privilege of using those frequencies (10 Meters) rather than filching them.................

RR

[Useless]

RR you have WAY too much time on your hands.... (quote)

I earned it! :wink: Now if those radio rambos would earn the privilege of using those frequencies (10 Meters) rather than filching them.................

RR

R.R.,

To simplify things we could all just call 1-800-WHOGIVESARAT'SASS!! :P

[ssoutlaw]

RR you have WAY too much time on your hands.... (quote)

I earned it! :wink: Now if those radio rambos would earn the privilege of using those frequencies (10 Meters) rather than filching them.................

RR

R.R.,

To simplify things we could all just call 1-800-WHOGIVESARAT'SASS!! :P

Your baiting him Useless...lol They kicked him off the Ham Forum, so he needs someplace to spew his words of wit, on ears who could care less....lol

[RadioRay]

Your baiting him Useless...lol They kicked him off the Ham Forum, so he needs someplace to spew his words of wit, on ears who could care less....lol

WAKE UP! You're dreamin' again! :P

RR

[ssoutlaw]

Your baiting him Useless...lol They kicked him off the Ham Forum, so he needs someplace to spew his words of wit, on ears who could care less....lol

WAKE UP! You're dreamin' again! :P

RR

Ray, you have pushed your point to far here, you sound like a broken record. I do also, by keeping it going with you. Have a wonderful life. I'm outta here!!!!