Rardar Detector

[heavyhaulerss]

hey.. i'm not saying the article i read was true. but itt did read that radar dedectors can be dedected even when it is off. maybe false info was fed to news paper to make drivers think they are under stricter surveilance. i'm no tech. i have no idea if this is true or if this can be true...

[ssoutlaw]

Long live the passport 8500......lol......

Hell no-Long Live the Old One Eye Fuzzbuster :P

[ssoutlaw]

Does anybody use R/D anymore and are they legal or not in all states?

can't have one in a cmv so i just use my bearcat8 it will tell me if a cop is within 3 miles,

when i was stoped in NV. last week the cop just looked at it sitting on the dash and didn't say a word. and no i didn't have it on at the time

Hate to tell you, the scanner is illegal also...

[kc0iv]

Does anybody use R/D anymore and are they legal or not in all states?

can't have one in a cmv so i just use my bearcat8 it will tell me if a cop is within 3 miles,

when i was stoped in NV. last week the cop just looked at it sitting on the dash and didn't say a word. and no i didn't have it on at the time

Hate to tell you, the scanner is illegal also...

The FCC only address the receiving of cellphone calls. From the FCC website ( http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/interception.html )

This section generally does not prohibit the mere interception of radio communications, although merely intercepting radio communications may violate other federal or state laws.
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The Communications Act also contains provisions that affect the manufacture of equipment used for listening to or receiving radio transmissions, such as “scanners.” The FCC cannot authorize scanning equipment that:

* can receive transmissions in the frequencies allocated to domestic cellular services;
* can readily be altered by the user to intercept cellular communications; or
* may be equipped with decoders that convert digital transmissions to analog voice audio.

As of March 04, 2006 only a few states have laws in respect to scanners.

MN, MI (changing their law effective 2006), NY, IN, KY, and FL totally outlaw the use of a scanner (except those by LE and Hams).

States that have laws on the books that makes their use illegal for the furtherance of a crime are: CA, SD, NE, OK, WV, NC, CT and VT.

MA and MO have pending laws but nothing has been passed at this time.


kc0iv

[ssoutlaw]

We had a driver popped while running a radar detector the other day.. while speeding ..OOPS! So much for their effectiveness. To me they are nothing but another toy that makes noise and has flashing lights on it.. add some chrome and the draw is just too much for some super truckers to withstand.. :wink:

Sounds like that guy would get popped anyway...lol They are effective, but like anything else you must know how to use it, and how to use traffic around you. There is an art to using a RD, will they help you every time, NO, but they will pay for themselves most times....
I will tell you something, if you are not smart enough, they wont help you at all....lol

[ssoutlaw]

Long live the passport 8500......lol......

Hell no-Long Live the Old One Eye Fuzzbuster :P

Remember the tin foil thing under your car.......lol

[yoopr]

Years ago I was running down near Dallas and ran into a Radio Shack Driver and he Swore that if you took a 3' flourescent Tube and wrapped it with copper wire every few inches from one post to the other and then from the other post back the same way and hung it inside your truck it would absorb all the radiation from Radar.

What he said was that this is the way Microwave manufacturers check for Radiation leaks.

He DID have one in his Truck

[Jackrabbit379]

He used that for a fuzz buster?

Kinda interesting, though.

[kc0iv]

Years ago I was running down near Dallas and ran into a Radio Shack Driver and he Swore that if you took a 3' flourescent Tube and wrapped it with copper wire every few inches from one post to the other and then from the other post back the same way and hung it inside your truck it would absorb all the radiation from Radar.

What he said was that this is the way Microwave manufacturers check for Radiation leaks.

He DID have one in his Truck

The interesting point Radio Shack's driver fails to understand is most of the Radar doesn't hit the fluorescent tube. Nor is the field strong enough once it travels a few feet.

It is a fact that a fluorescent tube can be lite by microwave. You don't even have to attach any wire to the tube.

Microwave manufacturers have calibrated leak detection meters. In addition the harmful radiation level is way below what it takes to light a fluorescent tube.

kc0iv

[ssoutlaw]

Years ago I was running down near Dallas and ran into a Radio Shack Driver and he Swore that if you took a 3' flourescent Tube and wrapped it with copper wire every few inches from one post to the other and then from the other post back the same way and hung it inside your truck it would absorb all the radiation from Radar.

What he said was that this is the way Microwave manufacturers check for Radiation leaks.

He DID have one in his Truck

I have seen a few drivers with the same thing, that was a 80's trick. I didn't believe it so I never made one...lol

[yoopr]

Years ago I was running down near Dallas and ran into a Radio Shack Driver and he Swore that if you took a 3' flourescent Tube and wrapped it with copper wire every few inches from one post to the other and then from the other post back the same way and hung it inside your truck it would absorb all the radiation from Radar.

What he said was that this is the way Microwave manufacturers check for Radiation leaks.

He DID have one in his Truck

The interesting point Radio Shack's driver fails to understand is most of the Radar doesn't hit the fluorescent tube. Nor is the field strong enough once it travels a few feet.

It is a fact that a fluorescent tube can be lite by microwave. You don't even have to attach any wire to the tube.

Microwave manufacturers have calibrated leak detection meters. In addition the harmful radiation level is way below what it takes to light a fluorescent tube.

kc0iv

He said that his Tube glowed when shot with a Radar gun and the Tube absorbed the radiation from the Gun

[kc0iv]

Years ago I was running down near Dallas and ran into a Radio Shack Driver and he Swore that if you took a 3' flourescent Tube and wrapped it with copper wire every few inches from one post to the other and then from the other post back the same way and hung it inside your truck it would absorb all the radiation from Radar.

What he said was that this is the way Microwave manufacturers check for Radiation leaks.

He DID have one in his Truck

The interesting point Radio Shack's driver fails to understand is most of the Radar doesn't hit the fluorescent tube. Nor is the field strong enough once it travels a few feet.

It is a fact that a fluorescent tube can be lite by microwave. You don't even have to attach any wire to the tube.

Microwave manufacturers have calibrated leak detection meters. In addition the harmful radiation level is way below what it takes to light a fluorescent tube.

kc0iv

He said that his Tube glowed when shot with a Radar gun and the Tube absorbed the radiation from the Gun

yoopr, I think this fall in the same league as the tin-foil in the hub caps or the whistle in the CB mike of times passed.

I won't bore you with why it can work but I can say it won't.

The first reason is the output power from a radar gun is way to low to excite a fluorescent tube short of it being almost directly in front of the fluorescent tube.

Another main problem is even if the tube lite it could only affect the area around the tube. The radar echo would still happen on the rest of the truck body.

Even the best stealth aircraft like the F-117, B2, the new F-22 & F-35 can't eliminate the echo they can only reduce some of it and reflect the rest. They still have a RCS (radar cross section). And that's only at selected radar frequencies.

There is basically two ways to defect police radar. (1) Over power the detector. (2) Cause the detector to not be able to lock. Both require a high power transmitter. I guess a third way would be to generate enough power to blow the radar detector's Gunn-Effect diode. Again this would require a high power transmitter. All these would only work on limited radar frequencies.

kc0iv

[yoopr]

ok
I never did the Tin foil in the hubs :P

[flood]

this is what i read. some weigh stations have new technology that will detect a radar detector in a vehicle. even if the radar dedector is off. it senses & recognizes unique components inside the detector. so even if its in a box & no power to it d.o.t. can still get a reading on who has one. not all d.o.t.'s are equipped with this tech.

Sounds like a truckdriver story to me.

If a radar detector is off but still plugged in , then yes it still can be detected in some circumstances. But if a radar detector is off, and unplugged, as in no power going to the unit at all, then i cannot see how it can be detected (unless your truck is getting X-rayed, in which case they actually see the thing). The componentry in a radar detector isnt very different from the componentry of most modern car stereos. It is in fact, a radio receiver, just as your AM/FM is a radio receiver, only the radar detector is tuned to different frequencies.

Highwayman the radar detector is very different from the car stereo the main difference is the radar detector's antenna. when a radar detector DETECTOR is pointed at a radar detector the antenna will (plugged in or not) reflect the radar back ( remember that a radar detector's antenna is cone-shaped..! ) at the frequency of the radar detector's antenna which is not the same as the original transmitting radar frequency. that is how thy can find a radar detector is your truck even if you have it unplugged and under the seat. the only way to hide one is to put it inside a box wrapped in tin foil.

as a side note a radar detector DETECTOR is the same size as a radar gun and some police do have them in their cars

[kc0iv]

this is what i read. some weigh stations have new technology that will detect a radar detector in a vehicle. even if the radar dedector is off. it senses & recognizes unique components inside the detector. so even if its in a box & no power to it d.o.t. can still get a reading on who has one. not all d.o.t.'s are equipped with this tech.

Sounds like a truckdriver story to me.

If a radar detector is off but still plugged in , then yes it still can be detected in some circumstances. But if a radar detector is off, and unplugged, as in no power going to the unit at all, then i cannot see how it can be detected (unless your truck is getting X-rayed, in which case they actually see the thing). The componentry in a radar detector isnt very different from the componentry of most modern car stereos. It is in fact, a radio receiver, just as your AM/FM is a radio receiver, only the radar detector is tuned to different frequencies.

Highwayman the radar detector is very different from the car stereo the main difference is the radar detector's antenna. when a radar detector DETECTOR is pointed at a radar detector the antenna will (plugged in or not) reflect the radar back ( remember that a radar detector's antenna is cone-shaped..! ) at the frequency of the radar detector's antenna which is not the same as the original transmitting radar frequency. that is how thy can find a radar detector is your truck even if you have it unplugged and under the seat. the only way to hide one is to put it inside a box wrapped in tin foil.

as a side note a radar detector DETECTOR is the same size as a radar gun and some police do have them in their cars

Rather than me go through the radar subject you might want to check out http://www.radarbusters.com/

kc0iv

[TruckerChris]

I ran my beltronic's radar 24/7 when I was driving and it saved my ass many times.

It's funny listening to XM and some driver will be talking to Bozo or someone and you can hear the radar in the background going off...

If you get pulled into the scale you better stash it and if you're in the company yard. I also ran my uniden scanner but it really didn't help much. I used it more for weather than anything.

[ALASKACVEO]

Radar detectors are banned from being in the drivers compartment, or in the case of a bus the entire thing, but are allowed in the sleeper berth of a truck.
Radar Detectors in Commercial Motor Vehicles

DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
Federal Highway Administration
49 CFR Parts 390 and 392
[FHWA Docket No. MC-90-14]
RIN 2125-AC69
Federal Register: January 20, 1994
AGENCY: Federal Highway Administration (FHWA), DOT.
ACTION: Final rule.

Applicability

The final rule changes portions of 49 CFR parts 390 and 392 to directly affect driver of CMVs as defined in part 390, which include vehicles used in interstate commerce to transport passenger or property when the vehicle -

(1) Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 or more pounds; or

(2) Is designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver, or

(3) Is used to transport hazardous materials in quantities that require placarding:

Vehicles that meet the above definition and are used exclusively in intrastate commerce also may be indirectly affected. Under the MCSAP, most States adopt the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations and enforce the requirements with respect to both interstate and intrastate drivers and carriers. Section 390.5 defines “radar detector" as any device or mechanism that detects radio microwaves, laser beams or any other future speed limit measurement technology used by enforcement officials to measure the speed of CMVs upon public roads and highways for enforcement purposes.

The definition would specifically exclude detectors that are:

(1) Transported outside the driver's compartment of the vehicle; and

(2) Completely inaccessible to, inoperable by, and imperceptible to the driver.

Also:Radar Detectors §392.71

Under a rule that went into effect January 20, 1994, drivers are prohibited from operating a commercial vehicle if it is equipped with or contains any radar detector. Motor carriers shall not require or permit a driver to violate the restriction.

A "radar detector" is defined in §390.5 as any device that will detect radio microwaves, laser beams, or any other future speed-measuring technology that law enforcement officers may use to enforce speed limits. Radar detectors are prohibited in the driver's compartment, regardless of whether they are plugged in or not.

So if you have one and DOT or a cop catches you, as long as it is in the sleeper and not functioning you cannot be written up or given a citation.
I hope this helps some of you speeders! Ha, this is the pot calling the kettle black, [/b]