Log Trucks using different Logs

[Papa Rick]

I just started hauling logs in Oct of this year. Since then I have not found anyone that uses a log book, but goes by a time sheet. We drive in 3 states home is AL, drive in GA and TN.

Has anyone heard of this? I have asked if you didn't need a log book to cross state lines, and was told no because Logging is exempt because it comes out of the woods in the natural state and is not changed or processed until you unload it.

Longest haul one way is 120 miles, starts in AL, then GA and TN, and return.

[slider64683]

according to FTC (Federal Transportation Commision) and log book is only required when working outside of a 150 air mile radius of the base termanial.

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[slider64683]

according to FTC (Federal Transportation Commision) and log book is only required when working outside of a 150 air mile radius of the base termanial.

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[nrvsreck]

Yes, as far as I understand it, it's a 150-mile air radius. Has nothing to do with crossing state lines. If the longest run in 120 miles, you got nothing to worry about.

[yoopr]

I've hauled logs up here and if you're within the radius you don't have to log it unless you're crossing a state line.
keep a sheet of your hours though.

[Papa Rick]

Hey I really appreciate the info.

Now for another question, do you get the hour sheets from your home state, and if so, do you have to send them back to them every so often.

[Papa Rick]

Can anyone tell me where is a good place to get the FMCSR book, both in pocket size and I have read somewhere you can get it in a notebook edition for your office?

[GMAN]

Most truck stops sell the pocket size handbooks as well as log books. There is a Pilot not too far from you, I believe. They should have them. And I have seen people ticketed for crossing state lines and not logging, even though they were within the 150 mile radius. It is best to check the rule book for yourself.

[yoopr]

Hey I really appreciate the info.

Now for another question, do you get the hour sheets from your home state, and if so, do you have to send them back to them every so often.

We just used a sheet with date-Where you picked up the Logs-What city and Paper Mill you were going to and the time you started the day and when you finished for that day.
When running intra-state you might want to check your states laws. Your regs might be different.

[Sealord]

Could cut logs be considered an agricultural product therefore nothing's required other than a time sheet? BOL

[Jackrabbit379]

How bout,sawing logs? :shock: :P

[Sealord]

Coulda been! Do I hear CW McCall? BOL

[yoopr]

Could cut logs be considered an agricultural product therefore nothing's required other than a time sheet? BOL

Up here Log trucks are plated as Farm Vehicle.
Cut logs would be considered Lumber and have to be considered Commercial.

[Dawn]

I just started hauling logs in Oct of this year. Since then I have not found anyone that uses a log book, but goes by a time sheet. We drive in 3 states home is AL, drive in GA and TN.

Has anyone heard of this? I have asked if you didn't need a log book to cross state lines, and was told no because Logging is exempt because it comes out of the woods in the natural state and is not changed or processed until you unload it.

Longest haul one way is 120 miles, starts in AL, then GA and TN, and return.

The 150 miles is only for NON-CDL drivers: So if you do not need a CDL to haul the logs then yes it is 150 mile radius. If you need a CDL to haul logs then if you go outside 100 mile radius you will need to fill out log sheets.

Drivers of property-carrying CMVs which do not require a Commercial Driver's License for operation and who operate within a 150 air-mile radius of their normal work reporting location:
May drive a maximum of 11 hours after coming on duty following 10 or more consecutive hours off duty.
Are not required to keep records-of-duty status (RODS).
May not drive after the 14th hour after coming on duty 5 days a week or after the 16th hour after coming on duty 2 days a week.
Employer must:
Maintain and retain accurate time records for a period of 6 months showing the time the duty period began, ended, and total hours on duty each day in place of RODS.

[yoopr]

Don't know why you repeat answers already given other than your copy and paste.

[Dawn]

Don't know why you repeat answers already given other than your copy and paste.

No many said that if he is within 150 miles he does not have to log. They did not specify the fact if he DOES NOT HAVE TO CARRY A CDL HE doesn't have to log it.
If he must have a CDL then his range is 100 miles (just like always)
I do not see where anyone explained that.

I am not sure if Log Haulers need a CDL or not, but I wanted to make sure he knew the fact of 100 miles versus 150 miles. Many people thought they changed the range from 100 to 150 for all local drivers, when in fact they only changed the NON CDL drivers range.
Sorry Yoopr if I repeated, I did not see where it was explained

[yoopr]

Of course log haulers have CDL's

[Dawn]

Of course log haulers have CDL's

Then if he drives over 100 mile radius he must keep a log book. That was my point. Again sorry Yoopr!

Of course log haulers have CDL's

Then if he drives over 100 mile radius he must keep a log book. That was my point. Again sorry Yoopr!

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[Porchclimber]

Guaranteed you need to show a pre trip inspection and a post trip.
Would it not be just as easy to use a log book and use line 4 for all your time.
IE a straight line across on duty for your hours worked


It's perfectly legal to log it that way.