Log Book Question?

[Papa Rick]

Been using the hourly time sheet for the past 4 1/2 years, so bout forgot how to do the logbook when I need to do it, so here is my question.

I live in Rainsville, my Truck is in Rainsville, when I do the Flatbedding for a company that is in Ashville AL, I bobtail down there to get the load on their trailer.

This is how the load went this past Friday, went to Ashville AL got load, went to Louisville MS, delivered load, returned to Ashville AL dropped trailer and bobtailed home, done for the day.

Would this be the correct way to log this:



Log 1 hr to Ashville Al 56 Miles, then 4 hrs to Louisville MS mileage from Ashville AL is 220 miles, go on duty not driving for 15 min for unloading, then 4 hours back to Ashville AL, 15 minutes to drop trailer and then off duty as I drive my CMV home, is this correct?

Total time driving would be 9 hrs, mileage 496, on duty not driving time would be 30 minutes, then rest of time off duty.

[Orangetxguy]

Been using the hourly time sheet for the past 4 1/2 years, so bout forgot how to do the logbook when I need to do it, so here is my question.

I live in Rainsville, my Truck is in Rainsville, when I do the Flatbedding for a company that is in Ashville AL, I bobtail down there to get the load on their trailer.

This is how the load went this past Friday, went to Ashville AL got load, went to Louisville MS, delivered load, returned to Ashville AL dropped trailer and bobtailed home, done for the day.

Would this be the correct way to log this:



Log 1 hr to Ashville Al 56 Miles, then 4 hrs to Louisville MS mileage from Ashville AL is 220 miles, go on duty not driving for 15 min for unloading, then 4 hours back to Ashville AL, 15 minutes to drop trailer and then off duty as I drive my CMV home, is this correct?

Total time driving would be 9 hrs, mileage 496, on duty not driving time would be 30 minutes, then rest of time off duty.

You need to show Pre-tripping your truck and trailer, so there is another 15 minutes minimum...plus you need to show fueling your tractor. You can show off duty on the drive home, as long as your are parked 10 hours once you are there.

[Papa Rick]

I have put it on log sheet as such:

Off Duty Time: 13.75, No Sleeper Berth, Driving, 9 hours, 1 to Ashville, 4 to Louisville MS, 4 to return to Ashville Total Mileage is 496. On Duty not Driving: 1.25, 15 min pre trip, 15 min pu load, 15 min unloading, 15 min drop tlr, 15 min fueling.

On the from and to, I have From Rainsville Al, to Ashville Al, since this is where it ends.

Does this sound correct?

[Orangetxguy]

I have put it on log sheet as such:

Off Duty Time: 13.75, No Sleeper Berth, Driving, 9 hours, 1 to Ashville, 4 to Louisville MS, 4 to return to Ashville Total Mileage is 496. On Duty not Driving: 1.25, 15 min pre trip, 15 min pu load, 15 min unloading, 15 min drop tlr, 15 min fueling.

On the from and to, I have From Rainsville Al, to Ashville Al, since this is where it ends.

Does this sound correct?

You do not need to put anything in there. Haven't had to for several years.

[xcarsalesman]

I heard its up to your company to show a pre trip or post trip... The only thing you have to fill out is the vehicle inspection report. I could not find it , on the fmcsa website stating you have to show a pre trip. If someone can show me the link i would appreciate it.

[Malaki86]

At Celadon, we're required to flag the Pre-trip, as it's only a walk-around. We then do a full Post-trip at the end of the day which is logged on duty. That's exactly how our logging department says we have do to it. Other companies may be the opposite.

[chris1]

You do not need to put anything in there. Haven't had to for several years.

If the from and to isn't on the logs you don't have to put it in. If it's printed on the log is has to be filled out or it's a general form and manner violation. Just like non-required lights.

[mgfg]

At Celadon, we're required to flag the Pre-trip, as it's only a walk-around. We then do a full Post-trip at the end of the day which is logged on duty. That's exactly how our logging department says we have do to it. Other companies may be the opposite.

That's actually the legal and proper way of doing it although the majority of us do it incorrectly.

[Orangetxguy]

I heard its up to your company to show a pre trip or post trip... The only thing you have to fill out is the vehicle inspection report. I could not find it , on the fmcsa website stating you have to show a pre trip. If someone can show me the link i would appreciate it.

A pre-trip inspection is required by the DOT. ALL WORK done in the course of a trip is required to be logged, hence a pre-trip inspection, which is required by DOT, has to be logged On-duty not driving. That is why you must log fueling as well.

[Malaki86]

If a pre-trip consists of a quick walkaround (under 7 minutes), it can be flagged, but must be shown on your log either way your company requires. Of course, your company may require both a full pre and post trip inspection.

[YerDaddy]

It only takes you 15 minutes to unload????????????????

[Malaki86]

Unloading for me consists of checking in at the office, opening the doors and backing into the dock. When they're done, I pull up, close the doors and leave. I "work" 15 minutes.

[Lngtaltxn]

If the from and to isn't on the logs you don't have to put it in. If it's printed on the log is has to be filled out or it's a general form and manner violation. Just like non-required lights.

Whoever told you this is mistaken. "To and from" are not required at all, niether are non required lights required to work look up 393.9(a) in the green book.