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Thread: Hey Tracer.....

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    Default Hey Tracer.....

    While you took the week off to sight see in AB, some of us had to pick up the slack at LS I guess. $3.81/mile from Baltimore to the GTA, SD, 1+1, 1 piece, no tarp.....again.

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    Two questions for anyone who has an answer.

    1. Why would anyone become a Landstar Agent? They're just a broker right? And you have to find your own freight. Why not put up the bond and get a subscription to DAT and go it alone?

    2. Hypothetically speaking, let's say I had some freight that I needed to broker out and I knew a guy with a truck and trailer but he was leased onto a company with non forced dispatch. What would stop me from giving those loads to the lease operator, having him send me POD's and cutting him a check?

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    1. They have a captive supply of trucks to haul their freight. They don't have to put up money for advances,quick pay,ect. and wait on their money.
    2. If there was an accident/cargo damage it would not be covered. If there was bodily injury you would become primary on the liabilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rank View Post
    While you took the week off to sight see in AB, some of us had to pick up the slack at LS I guess. $3.81/mile from Baltimore to the GTA, SD, 1+1, 1 piece, no tarp.....again.

    Send me a post card.
    Heck, even I'd go to Canada for that. Maybe you could be a pal and get Tracer the agents code and info?

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    2. Hypothetically speaking, let's say I had some freight that I needed to broker out and I knew a guy with a truck and trailer but he was leased onto a company with non forced dispatch. What would stop me from giving those loads to the lease operator, having him send me POD's and cutting him a check?

    He would not have proof of insurance to give to you, so basically he could load the piece and sell it, and you would be liable to reimburse the customer at your expense.

    I usually have to provide proof of insurance and have my agent fax a copy to the broker for his file

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    Quote Originally Posted by rank View Post
    While you took the week off to sight see in AB, some of us had to pick up the slack at LS I guess. $3.81/mile from Baltimore to the GTA, SD, 1+1, 1 piece, no tarp.....again.

    Send me a post card.
    I think you can contact a Landstar agent so that they qualify you as shipper (they check your credit) and then you can just give them freight. I read somewhere that most successful trucking companies act both as carriers and freight brokers, brokering freight they cannot and don't want to haul themselves.

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    Yeah those are good points on the insurance.

    >I think you can contact a Landstar agent so that they qualify you as shipper (they check your credit) and then you can just give them freight.
    I don't need to move the loads thru Landstar. I move my excess freight by posting it on DAT/Load Link/Truckers Edge. That's why I was wondering why anyone would become a Landstar agent when they can just get a DAT account and post the loads on there. I have a few loads that need to get to Baltimore faster than I can get them done. I can post them but I'd like to load a guy I know if possible. Besides, If I post them my phone will ring non stop and drive me crazy. Been there.

    >Heck, even I'd go to Canada for that.
    Not bad eh? Got another one too. Not as good but not bad either. Legal on a flat or step no tarp 15,000 lb load at $2500 on 700 miles from MD to the North Bay area.

    >Maybe you could be a pal and get Tracer the agents code and info?
    I'm sending a truck to pick that up on Fri AM so it's gone. Plus, it *might* be loading out of the port (not sure yet) and Tracer HASN'T GOT HIS TWIC CARD YET!!!!! C'MON MAN ARE YOU IN THIS TO MAKE MONEY OR JUST FOOL AROUND? TWIC TWIC TWIC

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    Quote Originally Posted by rank View Post
    Yeah ...I think you can ... become a Landstar agent ... and drive me crazy. Been there.
    If you post your truck as available on Trucker's Edge, does anyone ever call with good loads?

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    Sure. But there's a lot of junk too. But I use that opportunity to talk up freight rates and tell them I'm getting 4/mile LOL.

    BTW, booked another load out of the east today. 2 pics + 1 drop from Hartford to London. Legal width x 10'-5" H x 35,000 lbs. $2500 + $250 tarp = $2750 on 606 miles.

    This is like shooting fish in a barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rank View Post
    Legal width x 10'-5" H x 35,000 lbs. ... $250 tarp ... This is like shooting fish in a barrel.
    I think shooting fish in a barrel is easier than tarping a 10'5" tall load. You need my Conestoga

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    Quote Originally Posted by tracer View Post
    I think shooting fish in a barrel is easier than tarping a 10'5" tall load. You need my Conestoga
    Come on tracer, for $4.53 a mile I would tarp it naked in the snow! Lets be realistic here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skrissel View Post
    ...I would tarp it naked...
    The rate is good, but the trip is too short. You'll spend 3 hours tarping today, and 2 days untarping tomorrow. I prefer something like this:

    Origin: IL, USA
    Destination: Western Canada
    Trailer: flat or step
    Weight: 44,000 lbs
    Miles: 2,200
    Rate: $4.55/mi
    Revenue: $10,010

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    Origin: PA, USA
    Destination: Western Canada
    Trailer: step
    Weight: 50,000 lbs
    Miles: 2,300
    Rate: $4.21/mi
    Revenue: $9,683

    As far as I can tell both are no-tarp. What's interesting is that both loads go pretty much to the same area, but Load 1 can be done with a basic flat, weighs less and pays better than Load 2 that requires a step.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tracer View Post
    The rate is good, but the trip is too short. You'll spend 3 hours tarping today, and 2 days untarping tomorrow.
    Nothin' wrong with those rates. What the heck are you complaining about not makin' any money for?

    That 125" piece of mine is 7' long. There won't be more than 2 hrs total labor in that tarp job....untarping included. That's $125/hr and no fuel burned. I call that a good deal. But then I was raised on a farm.
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    Anyone that doesnt want to hop out of the truck and tarp for that kind of money is crazy! And what do ya mean the load is to short. Short haul, high rate! Thats what you should be looking for. Didnt you just spend some time not to long ago talking about how you were gonna try and start concentrating on short mile high revenue loads yourself? Make those dollars, dont run away from them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tracer View Post
    If you post your truck as available on Trucker's Edge, does anyone ever call with good loads?
    Yep. I sometimes get calls for cheap stuff as well though. In the comments section I put "No Cheap Freight" That holds off some of them. The ones that read it anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RostyC View Post
    Yep. I sometimes get calls for cheap stuff as well though. In the comments section I put "No Cheap Freight" That holds off some of them. The ones that read it anyways.
    The one's that speak english anyways LOL

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