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    Default Cummings Icon idle control system

    Just wondering if someone know a little more about this.My volvo has a cummings engine along with this icon system that shuts off the truck after every 3 minutes or so.Very very annoying!!!I was going to have it disabled but after going to a Cummings shop and talking to a volvo dealer i was told they can't have it disabled.

    Is that true? Anybody knows more about this?Right now i'm fixing my climate control unit on it,looks like the thermostat is out, and is costing me like $800, 500 being only the part.I was hoping to be able to idle my truck as much as i want and need,without the use of this climate unit that is supposed to start and stop the engine at a set temp. I really don't idle a lot,since i hate any engine noises when i sleep and prefer to have it off,but sometimes, when you have the triple digits you really need a cool place.

    Any sugestions would be apreciate it.

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    What year is it? What state are you domiciled in? For the last few years any trucks ordered/delivered/sold to be domiciled in CA have idle limits set. Takes a bit of work to have it changed.

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    I've never heard of a "cummings" engine. Are they a new manufacturer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago View Post
    I've never heard of a "cummings" engine. Are they a new manufacturer?

    yes, it's a direct competitor of "goings"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago View Post
    I've never heard of a "cummings" engine. Are they a new manufacturer?

    Haha you beat me to it.........

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    Are you talking about the "certified clean idle" sticker on the hood?

    Those trucks cannot have that setting modified, as per California law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allan5oh View Post
    Are you talking about the "certified clean idle" sticker on the hood?

    Those trucks cannot have that setting modified, as per California law.
    If they are purchased and domiciled out of the state of CA the setting can be changed. It is a real hassle to get done though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allan5oh View Post
    Are you talking about the "certified clean idle" sticker on the hood?

    Those trucks cannot have that setting modified, as per California law.
    Got to love a country where we have forgotten who the customer is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b00m View Post
    Just wondering if someone know a little more about this.My volvo has a cummings engine along with this icon system that shuts off the truck after every 3 minutes or so.Very very annoying!!!I was going to have it disabled but after going to a Cummings shop and talking to a volvo dealer i was told they can't have it disabled.

    Is that true? Anybody knows more about this?Right now i'm fixing my climate control unit on it,looks like the thermostat is out, and is costing me like $800, 500 being only the part.I was hoping to be able to idle my truck as much as i want and need,without the use of this climate unit that is supposed to start and stop the engine at a set temp. I really don't idle a lot,since i hate any engine noises when i sleep and prefer to have it off,but sometimes, when you have the triple digits you really need a cool place.

    Any sugestions would be apreciate it.
    Go to a truckstop and use IdleAire, problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boneebone View Post
    Go to a truckstop and use IdleAire, problem solved.
    "Excuse me, Mr. Customer, while I am being delayed for hours, I am going to drive 50 miles away to cool my truck at an IdleAire site!". Yes, that is a solution!?!

    BTW, I tried not to idle my truck. How the next driver idles his truck, or the owner of the equipment allows is his business. Having state and federal laws mandating this is a big problem of this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danske View Post
    Having state and federal laws mandating this is a big problem of this country.
    Most people just ignore it.
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    How can you ignore something that shuts down your truck after 5 minutes of idling, no matter what?

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    Could try parking only with the trailer break if you feel comfortable doing so. I've heard in some trucks doing that confuses the system and it thinks you're sitting in traffic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allan5oh View Post
    How can you ignore something that shuts down your truck after 5 minutes of idling, no matter what?
    I remember the "good ol' days" of using a brick to keep the throttle off the idle switch.
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    How about if you just bump the idle up to say, 800 to 1000 RPM's with the cruise control?

    The ISX that we had in our fleet had auto shutdown, but bumping up the cruise cancelled it out.
    If you can't shift it smoothly, you shouldn't be driving it.

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    Sorry guys for not being active here.just got back after a phenomenal run to FL and back to AZ . Thank God i had the mentioned problem fixed.

    Pretty much it was a thermostat(just like in a ac system in the house) that i had replaced at the dealer and was able to use it.If i set it at 70 degrees the engine starts itself and cools it down. It did cost me $750 but it was fixed.The damn cummings thermostat alone was 500 something.Talk about expensive parts in these Volvos.Great trucks but very very expensive on parts!!!

    I really don't like to idle at all,but when you have 100 degrees outside, you really want to keep cool a little but.Idle air is really not an option for me since, it seems a little expensive and dirty.All the nastry stories about it made me reconsider it.I don't know,it maybe just be me.

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