LTL vs Truckload

[Graymist]

As an o/o leased to a dry van company, would you prefer to earn revenue through running miles, or by earning drop / pick up pay ? Would the latter not make more sense, since your truck is making money without having its wheels turn ? What are the LTL companies out there that sign on o/o ? What are the pros and cons of LTL vs. truckload, from an o/o perspective ?

I'd really appreciate some response to this. Thanks in advance.

[Oso]

A question that I'm interested in too! Let me add another: generally speaking are the wait times generally different in LTL as compared to full trailer loading & unloading? I know it varies from shipper to shipper - but I'm guessing that LTL carriers don't spend as much time at big warehouses(?) Does it affect the bottom line?

[GMAN]

There is a difference between doing LTL and working for an LTL carrier. There are some typically truckload carriers who do some LTL. I have done quite a bit of LTL over the years. Rates usually tend to be higher and you will likely run fewer miles for the week due to the extra stops. Sometimes you are given priority with an LTL and other times you wait your turn. If you work for a LTL carrier then you may only run local or regional. Some of them have short-haul or local drivers who run a route and pickup LTL's all during the day. These may go back to a central distribution point where the pieces are sorted and may be put on a truckload carrier for delivery. These can be their own trucks or those that are used from another carrier. It is basically 2 separate segments of the market. When I do LTL I may only have 2-6 drops. A regular LTL carrier could have double or more since they may pickup smaller packages or pallets. Both are LTL but operate somewhat differently.

[Fredog]

I have been sitting here in Nebraska in a motel since Tuesday afternoon drawing 48 bucks an hour detention time, last word was it might be unloaded by morning, I told them,take your time

[GMAN]

You need to tell them that you don't want all that money, Fredog. You are just going to have to pay more taxes.

[b00m]

I love those ltl loads that pay like a full one.Last year, i got paid around 5 dollars per mile,500 miles run for delivering 2 full buckets of chocolate on my reefer to a factory.That's the best load i got since being in trucking and i don't think i catch another one like that for a long time.

.Unless they pay very good, i don't like bothering with extra pick and drops.Extra time,traffic can add up and not make it worth.

[Fredog]

You need to tell them that you don't want all that money, Fredog. You are just going to have to pay more taxes.

I ended up with 90 hours, $4320.00 I'm going to donate it to my favorite charity. ME

[GMAN]

I love those ltl loads that pay like a full one.Last year, i got paid around 5 dollars per mile,500 miles run for delivering 2 full buckets of chocolate on my reefer to a factory.That's the best load i got since being in trucking and i don't think i catch another one like that for a long time.

.Unless they pay very good, i don't like bothering with extra pick and drops.Extra time,traffic can add up and not make it worth.

One of my trucks just picked up a load that only took up 12 feet of deck and weighed 15,000 pounds. Due to time constraints on the delivery I wasn't able to find something to fill out the trailer. The load paid as a truckload but I sure hated to not fill out the trailer.

[Creek Jackson]

A question that I'm interested in too! Let me add another: generally speaking are the wait times generally different in LTL as compared to full trailer loading & unloading? I know it varies from shipper to shipper - but I'm guessing that LTL carriers don't spend as much time at big warehouses(?) Does it affect the bottom line?

I frequently haul beer and/or wine LTL and I spend a lot of time at the larger distribution warehouses. It can lead to frustration at times.

[Creek Jackson]

I ended up with 90 hours, $4320.00 I'm going to give it all to Creek Jackson

Why thank you, Fredog!

[Fredog]

Why thank you, Fredog!

bad news, I was robbed on the way to your house, they got it all

[Creek Jackson]

bad news, I was robbed on the way to your house, they got it all

Well I do live in a bad 'hood, man. But hey! How did you know I was home?

[Fredog]

Well I do live in a bad 'hood, man. But hey! How did you know I was home?

I know your every move, you think I would give all that money to a stranger?

[Creek Jackson]

I know your every move, you think I would give all that money to a stranger?

Well, I appreciate that. But my every move? Ok, what am I doing now and,,,,,,,,,now and,,,,,,,,,,,,how about,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,now?

[Fredog]

Well, I appreciate that. But my every move? Ok, what am I doing now and,,,,,,,,,now and,,,,,,,,,,,,how about,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,now?

geessh dude, how about a courtesy flush??

[Creek Jackson]

geessh dude, how about a courtesy flush??

Here you go,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


COURTESY FLUSH
Definition: The act of flushing the toilet the instant the nose cone of the poop log hits the water and the poop is whisked away to an undisclosed location. This reduces the amount of air time the poop has to stink up the bathroom. This can help you avoid being caught doing the WALK OF SHAME.

WALK OF SHAME
Definition: Walking from the stall, to the sink, to the door after you have just stunk up the bathroom. This can be a very uncomfortable moment if someone walks in and busts you. As with all farts, it is best to pretend that the smell does not exist. Can be avoided with the use of the COURTESY FLUSH.

[kreeper01]

There is a difference between doing LTL and working for an LTL carrier. There are some typically truckload carriers who do some LTL. I have done quite a bit of LTL over the years. Rates usually tend to be higher and you will likely run fewer miles for the week due to the extra stops. Sometimes you are given priority with an LTL and other times you wait your turn. If you work for a LTL carrier then you may only run local or regional. Some of them have short-haul or local drivers who run a route and pickup LTL's all during the day. These may go back to a central distribution point where the pieces are sorted and may be put on a truckload carrier for delivery. These can be their own trucks or those that are used from another carrier. It is basically 2 separate segments of the market. When I do LTL I may only have 2-6 drops. A regular LTL carrier could have double or more since they may pickup smaller packages or pallets. Both are LTL but operate somewhat differently.

Have to agree with Gman here, ran a few LTLs before and was done within 9 to 11 hours with 3 stops on the trailer.

[tombestonebilly]

I never did like the multi-stop LTL stuff. All them picks and drops and appointment times and people hollarin where's my freight? Well buddy if this a-hole at stop #3 wasnt holdin me up you'd have your precisous skids and I'd be on my way. But nooooooo. I tell you alot of these brokers who in my opinion are nothing but third rate thieves they don't know nothing about heavy multi stop BS. And you pretty much have to cook the book when you run LTL and get held up.

Then you get these loads were it's 4 skids and you show up and the guy don't got no towmoter, he's got no dock, he's got no pallet jack and you're parked in the street with your flashers on wonderin just what the hell you're gonna do. "Oh well, take it over to Yellow Freight and have them deliver it." OK how much am I gonna get paid? "Nothing cause if we ain't getting paid then you ain't either". WELL BUDDY THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM NOT MINE!

You see what I'm gettin at? Sometimes that stuff pays good but aint worth the hassles you gotta go throough getting it off your wagon. Other times you can get in and out and keep rollin but I tell ya I don't like that LTL stuff never did.