Question about stoplights

[lowrange]

Figured since I've been driving for 30 years, and now I do it professionally, I ought to find out for sure.

I always thought when you are in a turning lane and there is an extra set of lights exclusively for the turning lane, the right on red rule does not apply. Is that right? I see people turning right on red in those situations all the time. They even honk and get huffy if you are in front of them and you don't do it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if those lights are there specifically for the turning lane, then you only proceed if you have green. Is that right?

[solo379]

Is that right?

Only if there is a "black on white" sign stating;-Right, or left turn, on a green arrow only. Or something like that, which will prevent you, from doing so legally... That's my perception....

[Jumbo]

If you wanted to turn right and there were the three colored arrows for the right turn lane wouldn't the red arrow be the same as a sign? Even if there isnt a black and white sign saying "No turn on red".

[Uturn2001]

If you wanted to turn right and there were the three colored arrows for the right turn lane wouldn't the red arrow be the same as a sign? Even if there isnt a black and white sign saying "No turn on red".

No. What the red arrow for a right turn indicates is that you must come to a complete stop before turning right. If you had the green then you could go without stopping first.

[allan5oh]

You are correct, if there is a red turn light it is a stop sign essentially.

I think the exception is where the right turn is more like an exit with a yield sign. Then you do not have to stop.

[lowrange]

Hmpf. So, you're saying it's ok to turn right on red in those situations.

How about this, TWO turning lanes side by side. Can you turn right on red from the inside lane?

[mike3fan]

Figured since I've been driving for 30 years, and now I do it professionally, I ought to find out for sure.

I always thought when you are in a turning lane and there is an extra set of lights exclusively for the turning lane, the right on red rule does not apply. Is that right? I see people turning right on red in those situations all the time. They even honk and get huffy if you are in front of them and you don't do it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if those lights are there specifically for the turning lane, then you only proceed if you have green. Is that right?

So you're the guy....GO!!!!!!!!!!

[allan5oh]

I'm pretty sure you can proceed only after stopping, but if a sign prohibits it then you cannot.

Only the lane closest to the curb can turn right on red. In Montreal you cannot turn right on red no matter what. Absolutely not allowed.

[Jackrabbit379]

I have always assumed that you can turn on red, unless posted.

[Rev.Vassago]

I'm pretty sure you can proceed only after stopping, but if a sign prohibits it then you cannot.

^^^ This.

[lowrange]

So you're the guy....GO!!!!!!!!!!

Mike, I was just shown a picture of my truck at an intersection in Marshall, TX. I remember when the flashbulb went off, I was surprised because I didn't think I had done anything wrong. I was only going 45 mph, but they're telling me I'll be getting something in the mail. My company had all this on their computers and they were the ones to tell me about it. In retrospect, I think the yellow light was very short, and they're raking it in.

I'm told there are cameras all over the Chicago area, and we've already discussed the toll booths. This stuff is getting serious. We know about the cameras in Phoenix.

There's no way a cop would have written me a ticket. I was clearly at the end of the traffic flow and the cross traffic hadn't started. The cameras, though, I don't think they're as much about civil order as they are about punishing imperfection and making money.

How about two turning lanes? Can the inside lane turn right on red?

[mike3fan]

How about two turning lanes? Can the inside lane turn right on red?

usually only the curb lane can. it's usually marked as such.

[solo379]

In Montreal you cannot turn right on red no matter what. Absolutely not allowed.

So is in any of the 5 boroughs in NYC, but perfectly legal on Long Island.
Don't forget that, while in Brooklyn Lowrange...

[lowrange]

So is in any of the 5 boroughs in NYC, but perfectly legal on Long Island.
Don't forget that, while in Brooklyn Lowrange...

Hmpf Who knew? Thanks Solo, that's all I need is another ticket.

[Orangetxguy]

I guess I am behind the curve. I learned long ago, that a truck hauling a placarded load, could not turn right on a red light. Maybe I learned wrong?? Have I been blocking a ton of traffic needlessly??


Aaaaaaah well. To late now.

Carl.....there is an easier route to get to Texarkana from the south, or to the south of Texarkana, from the north.
Exit 2 off I-30, coming from the north, south on SR245 to SR549, then south to US71. US71 south to I-220, I220 to I-20, I20 west to US79, US 79 west to Carthage TX. Proceed from there. Adds 14 miles to the trip...but is 30 minutes faster.
Reverse the directions if you are headed north. 4 stop lights / signs between US59 @ Carthage and Texarkana and I-30 on that route. NO Cameras.

[sazook]

If the signal is a red circle, a right turn on red is legal unless there is a sign saying otherwise. However, if the signal is a red arrow, some states it is legal to turn and others it is not.

[BanditsCousin]

I always wait for a green arrow on the special set of lights for a right turn 99% of the time. I look pretty hard for the "right turn on arrow sign" on the overhead beam, as well as by the crosswalks though. This is a gray area, based on state, I think, or rather, local juristictions. Either way, an extra few minutes (usually) won't put you that far behind.

Of course, only owner operators are affected by this, company drivers are exempt lol (sorry Lowrange, couldn't resist)

[repete]

So is in any of the 5 boroughs in NYC, but perfectly legal on Long Island.
Don't forget that, while in Brooklyn Lowrange...

Wow been there and done that, glad I didn't get cought Thanks for the info

[YerDaddy]

Beeeep! Beeeeeeeeeeep!! What the Fluck are you waiting for?

[lowrange]

I always wait for a green arrow on the special set of lights for a right turn 99% of the time. I look pretty hard for the "right turn on arrow sign" on the overhead beam, as well as by the crosswalks though. This is a gray area, based on state, I think, or rather, local juristictions. Either way, an extra few minutes (usually) won't put you that far behind.

Of course, only owner operators are affected by this, company drivers are exempt lol (sorry Lowrange, couldn't resist)

Look at the truck next time, that guy swearing at you calling you everything except 'child of God' might be Mike3fan!

I thought about that, too, BanditsCousin, posting this on another forum. I thought about it, thought naaahhhh...so, here we are.