pass due taxes

[jiptwoo]

Wrong forum but, if bush and his cronies who had the senate & congress for 8 yrs could pass a 750 billion stimulus, and basically give it all to the banks with no oversite then Obama and his administration can do no wrong and still offer transparency. Did bush have any transparency, no it was slam bam and your tax dollars were gone the congressman who sit on the boards of these financial institutions took your money and did'nt think once about accountability or helping americans out. Yet you can find room to down Obama and the administration and they have been in office what! 1 month. Remember what administration put america in this mess; Not Obama's. Quit crying you lost the vote, get over it and stand with your president, hell we stood with bush and prayed for the best, and got the worst ever in the nations history. Your good old boys club failed don't blame Obama for it.

[GMAN]

I hate to bring up the facts, but the chickencrats controlled congress when the stimulus first began. It was the chickencrats that was charged with oversight of Fanny Mae, Freddie Mac and the financial industry. They sold their souls and the future of this country for a few pieces of silver. Bush pushed for the bailout tax with the help of a chickencratically controlled congress. They were the majority party. It is the legislative branch of government (congress) that is responsible for oversight not the executive branch (presidency). There is ample room for blame to go around. Neither party did their job. It took both the chickencrats and republicans to pass the first stimulus tax. They no longer need any help from the republicans to pass another stimulus tax.

[jiptwoo]

Don't hate to bring up the facts, heck it's the facts that count. You actually have me looking into the library of congress and congressional records from the 106th to the present day 111th congress. Heck this is interesting, the house, senate, & congress and more info than I can digest for a while. I am actually gonna come out of this armed with the facts and able to keep up with present day happenings in d.c. as my time permits. I could have never imagined using some free time on actual knowledge, no wonder my father was a history and political science major; so in actuality;---Thanks!

[GMAN]

Let us know if you find anything interesting, jiptwoo. Most people like to blame the president regardless of which party is in power at the time. Recent presidents have been using executive orders to rule much like a dictatorship would. This is not actually legal under the Constitution but they have not been called on it. By the way, both parties have used it. Congress should be held more accountable. Unfortunately, they have done a good job of passing blame to the other party or president to avoid responsibility. Since most people only rely on what they are told by the media their viewpoint is somewhat skewed. I would guess that at least 90% of generation X doesn't have a clue as to the branches of government or how they function. It is easy to influence those who are ignorant. That doesn't mean they are stupid, but are uninformed. The government has done an excellent job of dumbing down our society. They have been successful because we have allowed it to happen. It has been congress who have passed the laws and regulations which has allowed this to happen. Political correctness and ignorance have destroyed much of our values. Most people think that there is a provision for separation of church and state in the constitution. It doesn't exist. However, because they have heard it so much from the media over the years they believe it is fact. They don't bother to read the constitution for themselves. Another is the provision for owning firearms. States should not be able to regulate the ownership of firearms because of the 2nd Amendment. Many people are confused because of what they have heard from the media. It violates the constitution for them to attempt to prohibit people from having firearms. There is also no provisions for forcing people to register guns in the constitution.

When our constitution was written it provided for a weaker federal government. States had most of the power. That focus has changed. Basically, anything that was not strictly prohibited in the constitution was all right for people to do. Now many people want to have laws to tell them what to do about everything rather than making their own decisions and taking responsibility for them. The federal government continues to grow stronger and more oppressive. Just look at the number of states that continue to look to Washington for money and favors. That would never have happened with our forefathers. If you look at what is happening in this country we are heading toward a benevolent dictatorship. Our founders feared an all powerful federal government. They experienced that first hand with the King of England. It is time we went back to having a constitutional government. The constitution is a very simple document. I am sometimes amazed at what people can read into it.

[Orangetxguy]

Just like my dog ate my homework?

It's just a guess, but this sounds like one of those billy bigriggers out there on the road blowing off how much money they are making. Sadly this end result will be the same for everyone that finally realizes that being an O/O sucks when you have to play by the rules. Eventually they will catch up to you all.

I just did my taxes and I got a $7,000 refund. Man it sucks to be a company driver!

cough. cough. cough. cough.



An OTR driver with a $7,000.00 refund. Wow. You musta paid for a lot of extra stuff...that was tax deductible huh?

Even when my taxable gross was $47,000 (YTD Gross was $83,870)...and I paid taxes of $23,600 ($9,380 FICA also) deducted out of my payroll checks...as a company driver......best refund I ever received was $4,380. I guess I just didn't have enough deductions. But...that was a few years ago when I was a company driver that only made $26.90 an hour...plus $1.50 an hour shift differential. I only worked 60 hour weeks..so not all that many hours either. Though night shift tended to make them hours seem like a lot more than they were.

Knight pays a really awesome wage!!! I'm gonna quit doing what I'm doing and drive for them!!!

[Orangetxguy]

I hate to bring up the facts, but the chickencrats controlled congress when the stimulus first began. It was the chickencrats that was charged with oversight of Fanny Mae, Freddie Mac and the financial industry. They sold their souls and the future of this country for a few pieces of silver. Bush pushed for the bailout tax with the help of a chickencratically controlled congress. They were the majority party. It is the legislative branch of government (congress) that is responsible for oversight not the executive branch (presidency). There is ample room for blame to go around. Neither party did their job. It took both the chickencrats and republicans to pass the first stimulus tax. They no longer need any help from the republicans to pass another stimulus tax.

Now G...you know I'm not usually disagreeing with you on here...but you are leaving a few gapping holes here. Your not mentioning the fact that the Rebub's controlled congress for the duration of the "Clinton" years. That Clinton left the Reagan / Bush people in their positions at the FED, instead of trying to buck the Repub's, by getting his own people in their. When the FTC let companies get bought out and merged, they did so as a "Republican" controlled FTC.

The current congress has only been held by the "chickencrats" for two years. People may not want to admit it...but we have been spiralling into this pit we are in, since mid 2006.

When I watched Obama being sworen in...I was shocked at the shear number of "Elderly" Senators and Congress-critters, whom were helped to their seats. Who's fault is it, that so many senile people are in those buildings in Washington DC?

There isn't any person in this country whom can escape a portion of the blame for this mess.

All those countries whom for the last 6 years, have been waging an economical war with us....have had their ass handed to them, by their own greed.

We Americans are a greedy bunch of people. WE all want the things we want. For the most part...WE all are willing to work hard, to pay for those things we want.
The rest of the world failed to take that into consideration, when they attacked the value of the American dollar. Look what has happened. All those currencies that were kicking the American dollar kister the last 3 years, are now back to a point, where the US dollar is worth more...because "WE" have slowed our buying of their products.


I for one, do not buy into the FOXNews Group (a FOREIGN corporation), methodology of economics. Neal and that Gang are not that smart...they just mouth what people want to hear (and what is scripted for them by their employer. Rupert Murdoch is not a friend of America.). I don't listen to Rush...because I don't believe a word that comes out of the mouths of any drug addict. Rush is an admitted drug addict and prescription drug thief...he just has never served jail time for his crimes.

The best radio personality ever, was Art Bell. At least he stuck with things that were of no consequence. The best TV personality....Jerry Springer....He likes throwing chairs...and only hurts himself and his moron guests.

Me...I am all for a return to American company's manufacturing the goods we consume, and doing it right here in America. I am for kicking foreign companies, out of the US...especially those foreign companies whom are now in control of our minerals...gold...silver..copper...oil. Let's start with Venezuala!

At the same time....feeding a few of the ultra-liberals, along with a few of the ultra-conservatives, to the fish...wouldn't hurt my feelings either......let's start with Glen Beck and Al Gore.


When I got in from Canada yesterday...there was a paper taped to the drivers room door...pointing out the differences between un-employment rates of today...1981...and 1932..as well as the financial differences. FOXNews group was the source of the stats that were posted there. One glaring thing that was left out of the FOXNews view point....was the difference in our POPULATION...from 1932, to 1981, to present. Leaving that difference out of percentage comparisons is needed, to make the FOXNews Groups methodology work.They also fail to mention that in 1932, our money was based on the "Gold" standard...where as today, it is not.

I'll have to get that article and get it posted...to show my point.

[dollarshort]

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An OTR driver with a $7,000.00 refund. Wow. You musta paid for a lot of extra stuff...that was tax deductible huh?

Even when my taxable gross was $47,000 (YTD Gross was $83,870)...and I paid taxes of $23,600 ($9,380 FICA also) deducted out of my payroll checks...as a company driver......best refund I ever received was $4,380. I guess I just didn't have enough deductions. But...that was a few years ago when I was a company driver that only made $26.90 an hour...plus $1.50 an hour shift differential. I only worked 60 hour weeks..so not all that many hours either. Though night shift tended to make them hours seem like a lot more than they were.

Knight pays a really awesome wage!!! I'm gonna quit doing what I'm doing and drive for them!!!

It's called itemized deductions......Instead of having Knight do my per diem, I do it myself. Also, deduct, Sirius Satellite Radio, Laptop, Cell Phone, Clothing, Shoes, etc. My mortgage interest is also a biggie since I pay a $2,500/month mortgage.

It is what it is. Last year I got a $5,200 refund, the year before.....$5,000. All while working for Knight. Now I did have to pay in $740 for state taxes because Knight doesn't withold at a high enought rate, and ther won't change it.

[GMAN]

Now G...you know I'm not usually disagreeing with you on here...but you are leaving a few gapping holes here. Your not mentioning the fact that the Rebub's controlled congress for the duration of the "Clinton" years. That Clinton left the Reagan / Bush people in their positions at the FED, instead of trying to buck the Repub's, by getting his own people in their. When the FTC let companies get bought out and merged, they did so as a "Republican" controlled FTC.

Unfortunately, you are correct about the republicans. The last group we had in there spent more than the democrats. It is as though they were trying to out spend them. The republicans have moved far away from their conservative roots. That is one of the primary reasons the republicans lost the last election. The republicans put in one of the largest government bureaucracies in history with the Homeland Insecurity Agency. I still feel that we don't need another government agency. The FBI and other agencies have done a good job for many years. Growing the government does more to threaten our national security than any foreign enemy. Bush and the congress panicked when 9/11 happened and put in the Homeland Insecurity Agency too quickly. We now see useless added taxes such as those for a hazmat endorsement or a TWIC card. Threats are not likely to come from domestic truckers. We may criticize the government but it is unlikely any of us would put a bomb a truck and take it to a port. Nor would we deliberately do anything to damage the environment. The background checks will do little if anything to make us safer. It is just another tax imposed in the name of national security.

The current congress has only been held by the "chickencrats" for two years. People may not want to admit it...but we have been spiralling into this pit we are in, since mid 2006.

Actually, the ground work for our current economic situation started much farther back with the Carter administration. Oil begin to escalate dramatically and inflation was around 21%. Car dealers went out of business in record numbers. Interest rates were through the roof. The Middle East found that they could use oil as a weapon against the U.S. and with Carter and the weak kneed Chickencrats in office we were perceived as weak and a nation that would not move to protect our interests or citizens in a a foreign country. The current economic situation involves more than housing or banking it also has to do with the high cost of energy, specifically oil. Democrats keep fighting against more oil exploration and development in the U.S. Congress also allowed foreign oil companies to take over several of our major oil companies. BP took over Gulf Oil. BP is owned by the British. Both parties are to blame.

There isn't any person in this country whom can escape a portion of the blame for this mess.

I agree. We can blame the politicians but it is the responsibility of the American citizens to police our elected officials and to hold them accountable. We have allowed them to go out of control and continue to demand more and more government handouts and services.

All those countries whom for the last 6 years, have been waging an economical war with us....have had their ass handed to them, by their own greed.

There is some satisfaction in that these people have had their greed to come back and bite them. Frankly, I think that is where much of this bailout money has gone.

Me...I am all for a return to American company's manufacturing the goods we consume, and doing it right here in America. I am for kicking foreign companies, out of the US...especially those foreign companies whom are now in control of our minerals...gold...silver..copper...oil. Let's start with Venezuala!

This would be a good start to bringing jobs back to the U.S. Foreign owned companies have no loyalty to this country. They also take money earned here and take it back to their home country. Some of these foreign companies have employed a lot of Americans, however. We need to bring back our manufacturing base from these foreign countries. I do like what I heard Obama say in his speech about taxing those companies who manufactured products abroad to encourage them to move their operations back to the U.S.

When I got in from Canada yesterday...there was a paper taped to the drivers room door...pointing out the differences between un-employment rates of today...1981...and 1932..as well as the financial differences. FOXNews group was the source of the stats that were posted there. One glaring thing that was left out of the FOXNews view point....was the difference in our POPULATION...from 1932, to 1981, to present. Leaving that difference out of percentage comparisons is needed, to make the FOXNews Groups methodology work.They also fail to mention that in 1932, our money was based on the "Gold" standard...where as today, it is not.

I'll have to get that article and get it posted...to show my point.

Rupert Murdock is not one of my favorite people but I find it interesting that he is a foreigner and has the most fair news reporting of the networks and cable news stations. They do seem to represent more of a conservative slant to the news but over all I find them to be pretty balanced in their reporting. I would have thought that the American owned media would be more balanced. I think they were at one time. Now they seem to be more a voice for the liberals and want to make the news rather than reporting it.

[Orangetxguy]

Unfortunately, you are correct about the republicans. The last group we had in there spent more than the democrats. It is as though they were trying to out spend them. The republicans have moved far away from their conservative roots. That is one of the primary reasons the republicans lost the last election. The republicans put in one of the largest government bureaucracies in history with the Homeland Insecurity Agency. I still feel that we don't need another government agency. The FBI and other agencies have done a good job for many years. Growing the government does more to threaten our national security than any foreign enemy. Bush and the congress panicked when 9/11 happened and put in the Homeland Insecurity Agency too quickly. We now see useless added taxes such as those for a hazmat endorsement or a TWIC card. Threats are not likely to come from domestic truckers. We may criticize the government but it is unlikely any of us would put a bomb a truck and take it to a port. Nor would we deliberately do anything to damage the environment. The background checks will do little if anything to make us safer. It is just another tax imposed in the name of national security.




Actually, the ground work for our current economic situation started much farther back with the Carter administration. Oil begin to escalate dramatically and inflation was around 21%. Car dealers went out of business in record numbers. Interest rates were through the roof. The Middle East found that they could use oil as a weapon against the U.S. and with Carter and the weak kneed Chickencrats in office we were perceived as weak and a nation that would not move to protect our interests or citizens in a a foreign country. The current economic situation involves more than housing or banking it also has to do with the high cost of energy, specifically oil. Democrats keep fighting against more oil exploration and development in the U.S. Congress also allowed foreign oil companies to take over several of our major oil companies. BP took over Gulf Oil. BP is owned by the British. Both parties are to blame.





I agree. We can blame the politicians but it is the responsibility of the American citizens to police our elected officials and to hold them accountable. We have allowed them to go out of control and continue to demand more and more government handouts and services.




There is some satisfaction in that these people have had their greed to come back and bite them. Frankly, I think that is where much of this bailout money has gone.





This would be a good start to bringing jobs back to the U.S. Foreign owned companies have no loyalty to this country. They also take money earned here and take it back to their home country. Some of these foreign companies have employed a lot of Americans, however. We need to bring back our manufacturing base from these foreign countries. I do like what I heard Obama say in his speech about taxing those companies who manufactured products abroad to encourage them to move their operations back to the U.S.




Rupert Murdock is not one of my favorite people but I find it interesting that he is a foreigner and has the most fair news reporting of the networks and cable news stations. They do seem to represent more of a conservative slant to the news but over all I find them to be pretty balanced in their reporting. I would have thought that the American owned media would be more balanced. I think they were at one time. Now they seem to be more a voice for the liberals and want to make the news rather than reporting it.

BP took over AMOCO and ARCO, here in the US, in 1998 (AMOCO) and 1999(ARCO).
Before that, they took over Standard Oil of Ohio...back in 1983. That was when BP first aquired holdings in Alaska and the "Lower 48". The "ALASKA SOHIO" holdings are still the only Alaska holdings BP owns. All of the "ARCO Alaska" holdings were sold to Phillips Petroleum, in a forced sale. Congress required EXXON to decline purchase of ARCO Alaska. That "purchase" is the reason that Phillips Petroleum recovered as a viable oil company, and eventually bought out TOSCO Holdings Company, a refinery and distribution operator (mainly the UNION76 brand and Circle K), and then Conoco. Alaska was, and still is, the "Goose Nest" with all the golden eggs.

GULF Oil was bought by Chevron in 1985. The entirety of GULF Oil. Chevron bought the Oil and Chemical holdings of TEXACO in 2000, then the remainder of Union Oil of California(UNOCAL) in 2004.

SHELL bought the refining portion of TEXACO, with the eastern portion being named MOTIVA (Due to Saudi Aramco being a partial owner) and the western portion being named EQUILON (at the time, TEXACO still existed as an Oil company and was part owner, pre-CHEVRON).

That was also the period in which EXXON took over Mobil Oil. A Republican dominated FTC and Republican controlled congress watched over and encouraged the entire process. Clinton signed off on all of it, to avoid further conflict with an already hostile congress.

Now...I disagree with you as to the fairness of the reporting of the FOXNews Group. Yes...they report news...but they report news with the same slant as does any other news organization. I find that the BBC and Reuters are far more legitimate than FOX.

As for the "Talk" personalities...how anyone could call what they do "Fair and Balanced", when all of them clearly, are more concerned with themselves, than with accurate reporting, is beyond me. Neil Cavoto, Shaun Hannity, Brett Hume....these are not people whom I would lend an once of credence too. ALL have a permanent sneers on their faces...and I get pissed off, when I see people sneering at me.

[Orangetxguy]

When people scream and holler about "Obama is gonna spend us into the grave"...THEY forget that the same screaming and hollering occurred, when Reagan did the exact same thing that Obama is attempting to do...SPEND us out of this crisis.

How many hundreds and hundreds of billions, even trillions of dollars (figuring in inflation), did the Reagan policies spend over the 8 years of his presidency, then the ensuing Bush I, years?? About what Obama has proposed? Only Obama is focusing on our infrastructure (which will require steel, stone, chemicals, oil, trucks, and people)..where as Reagan focused on the military and foreign aid.

Right now, we don't hear Boeing, Northrop Grumman, Martin-Marietta, or most of the other "WAR" machine companies, crying about being broke do we??

Go figure.

[fingerlakes]

As far as I'm concerned we can sort out the blame after we clean up the mess.

[Rev.Vassago]

When people scream and holler about "Obama is gonna spend us into the grave"...THEY forget that the same screaming and hollering occurred, when Reagan did the exact same thing that Obama is attempting to do...SPEND us out of this crisis.

Well, no. Not really. The Reagan administration's spending (as opposed to the GDP) stayed pretty much the same as when Carter was in office.