Going O/O ??

[Scottt]

Kevin just ignore Little Diesel. He has a little indigestion from all the "crow" he ate last week.

A newbie can make money as a o/o but it takes 2 things to really succeed.

1. Cash!!! Save your money and buy a truck outright and have enough cash set back after you buy a truck to fix it. Be prepared for anything to break. My truck cost me $7,000 in repairs the first 3 weeks I owned it. Nothing has broke since but I replace something everyweek now. So far new tires, shocks, belts, brake hoses. overhead done.

2. Find a small company to lease on with that has had years of experience. A small company will lookout for you and the chance of you making a fatal business mistake will be greatly reduced. The company I leased on with as a newbie has 30 years in the trucking business They very seldom use load boards because the brokers call them everyweek with the same loads. I have ran the same route the last 3 weeks and the rate hasn't dropped with the price of fuel.

Yeah i know Little Diesel I am still stupid and a liar so no need to tell me again.

[BigDiesel]

Kevin just ignore Little Diesel. He has a little indigestion from all the "crow" he ate last week.

A newbie can make money as a o/o but it takes 2 things to really succeed.

1. Cash!!! Save your money and buy a truck outright and have enough cash set back after you buy a truck to fix it. Be prepared for anything to break. My truck cost me $7,000 in repairs the first 3 weeks I owned it. Nothing has broke since but I replace something everyweek now. So far new tires, shocks, belts, brake hoses. overhead done.

2. Find a small company to lease on with that has had years of experience. A small company will lookout for you and the chance of you making a fatal business mistake will be greatly reduced. The company I leased on with as a newbie has 30 years in the trucking business They very seldom use load boards because the brokers call them everyweek with the same loads. I have ran the same route the last 3 weeks and the rate hasn't dropped with the price of fuel.

Yeah i know Little Diesel I am still stupid and a liar so no need to tell me again.

Everyone called BS on your so called " numbers ".........

[Triple Digit Bob]

Kevin just ignore Little Diesel. He has a little indigestion from all the "crow" he ate last week.

A newbie can make money as a o/o but it takes 2 things to really succeed.

1. Cash!!! Save your money and buy a truck outright and have enough cash set back after you buy a truck to fix it. Be prepared for anything to break. My truck cost me $7,000 in repairs the first 3 weeks I owned it. Nothing has broke since but I replace something everyweek now. So far new tires, shocks, belts, brake hoses. overhead done.

2. Find a small company to lease on with that has had years of experience. A small company will lookout for you and the chance of you making a fatal business mistake will be greatly reduced. The company I leased on with as a newbie has 30 years in the trucking business They very seldom use load boards because the brokers call them everyweek with the same loads. I have ran the same route the last 3 weeks and the rate hasn't dropped with the price of fuel.

Yeah i know Little Diesel I am still stupid and a liar so no need to tell me again.

Not all small companies are looking out for the O/O. A lot of them are on the verge of going bankrupt and can easily run off with whatever is owed to the O/O. The rates haven't dropped? You will be in for nice surprise,HEHE. AH,this Rossetta Stone I use is improving my english.

[Scottt]

Everyone called BS on your so called " numbers ".........

Yeah and I posted my numbers and it got really really quiet on the subject. What I found funny was there wasn't one person to come back and say they were wrong.

Bob my gross revenue hasn't changed in the last month. I kinda doubt the company I am leased on with will run away with the money being they don't own any trucks and the only way they make money is when we make money. They have been in business 30 years and know how many $$$ it takes to make it profitable for everyone.


On a side note it wasn't a good week in trucking on my route.

A Swift truck got blown off the road and over turned in front of me west of Dalhart Texas.

A truck was passing another truck on I-40 in eastern Arizona and they got tangled together and a third truck hit them and the trucks burnt and killed all 3 drivers. Was a ugly site to see when I came through the area 8 hours after it happened.

A Trans Am truck ran over a guy riding a bike and killed him in Kansas City last Wednesday

Thursday as I was coming through Kansas City a car transport turned off of I-35 onto I-635 and over turned and dumped the cars all over.

[BigDiesel]

Yeah and I posted my numbers and it got really really quiet on the subject. What I found funny was there wasn't one person to come back and say they were wrong.

Oh...... ok.......

[Scottt]

Oh...... ok.......

And you prove once again you don't have "NADS" big enough to say you were wrong.

[BigDiesel]

And you prove once again you don't have "NADS" big enough to say you were wrong.

Ok supertwucker.......

Post some more of your BBR so called numbers....

[Scottt]

Ok supertwucker.......

Post some more of your BBR so called numbers....

Why should I?? You would just be a classless loser and call me a liar again.

Sorry I'm not a Super Trucker know it all like you. I don't have to hide behind a keyboard all day and redicule every post on here from someone who is asking a question or replying to a post to get my thrill like you. I get my thrill going to the bank and making a deposit everyweek.

Why don't you post the trick of splitting a penny 3 ways and call it profit.

[Rocketdog]

My whole point was dont start a business and then right away start spending money you dont need to spend

This is the most concise advise I've read on CAD in a long time.

Quick note about the trucking business: You will read over an over again you need to spend X amount of years driving first before becoming an OO. Some will say one, some will tell you two maybe three, some even say five years minimum is what's needed.

Remember this: it's not how long you do something...it's how you do it CORRECTLY! You could spend 30 years holding a steering wheel and learn NOTHING, or, you could spend 30 years having an open ming and learning something everyday. Steer clear of people who tell you " I know everything there is to know about trucking" ---these people generally have tremendous insecurities and actually know less than even they realize. Someone flexible can adapt to new things. Glass doesn't flex much and you can see right through. Rubber is flexible and can stretch, apapting to new surroundings. Everything has a breaking point.

Here's my take: It's important to understand ALL aspects of any business model you want to pursue. If it takes you 5 YEARS to learn something....think about this: A Bachelors degree takes 4 years, masters 2 years (depending on program) and a PhD will take you 4 to 6 years. You could spend 12 years in college to learn the most advanced things professional life has to offer......or.....take your time and learn trucking.

The rate YOU learn depends on your personal learning style and the ability to retain useful information.

The business of trucking isn't unlike other business ideas: you offer a service of moving something for someone for a fee (rate) with a truck. Understanding business will do more for you in the long run than anything in becoming an OO.

My advice to someone new to the business:

**Drive a company truck and track the expenses of that truck as if YOU owned it.
**Ask your company what OOs make pulling the same freight.
**Figure your expenses---fuel, insurance, maintenance, truck payment, escrows, etc.
**Ask yourself "How much home time do I want"---remember this needs to be figured in to your expenses since the truck will not generate any revenue while sitting in your driveway but your fixed costs will continue.

Once you understand business related concepts of running the truck another key question you need to ask yourself: "Am I willing to do the things necessary to operate the truck to be profitable AND be happy and enjoy my life?"

As you can see, once you have all the information, making the decision to become an OO is a personal decision of going in to business for yourself.

Hope this helps.


Robert

[rank]

I've seen gas prices fall $2 over the course of a few weeks. Desiel is actually getting better (still high), and my mentor showed me how he was paying $0.70/gal out of pocket. Was pulling almost $1500 home a week after his truck payment, fuel cost and his deposit into his maintence account.

I was wondering, with the fuel prices getting better, is it now time to start thinking of going O/O?? I cannot go that route for another 6 months, but if i can make almost twice as much, and it seems get more miles than company drivers (cause DMs know you want/NEED to run miles to pay for the truck, etc.) might seem well worth it.

any advice from O/Os? Why do i hear lots of drivers say 'dont go with a lease thru the company.."??

Rates are falling faster than fuel.
For the month of July, my fuel costs averaged ~$1.03/mile and rates averaged $3.99/loaded mile.
For the month of October, my fuel costs averaged ~$.65/mile and rates averaged $3.12/loaded mile.

Your mileage may vary.

[BigDiesel]

Why should I?? You would just be a classless loser and call me a liar again.

Sorry I'm not a Super Trucker know it all like you. I don't have to hide behind a keyboard all day and redicule every post on here from someone who is asking a question or replying to a post to get my thrill like you. I get my thrill going to the bank and making a deposit everyweek.

Why don't you post the trick of splitting a penny 3 ways and call it profit.

You are a BS'er when it comes to your rates....

It is easy to split a " penny " three ways..... but you will never know with your so called business acumen....

[homer]

scotts plan shows more concern for you than that huge company ever will.
if you last 2 years as a company driver you will do like the thousands who were "mentored" before you.
what happened to them anyway?
maybe you will want your life back.
maybe you will learn to operate a business and save a large enough down payment where you can get financed and actually own a truck. maybe you will not want to be a lease operator but an owner operator who would never associate with the large "mentor" company
i got away from them 10 years ago and enjoy my weekends off, my,cabin with the free shower every day , my two weeks paid vacation.
and my excellant credit rating