CARB is at it again....

[Walking Eagle]

The shippers of the containers just aren't going to pay the extra tax or the extra freight rate after it lands the y will move up or down the coast (Mexico) to land their stuff. Think they are shooting themselfs in the foot.

[fdmax]

The Ports have a $100 fee for long haul trucks, called the day-pass. Thats on top of the other fee's.

[GMAN]

The Ports have a $100 fee for long haul trucks, called the day-pass. Thats on top of the other fee's.

Trucking companies can easily afford to pay an extra $100 to haul one of those containers. After all, those are HIGH DOLLAR loads. It is time for truckers to say enough is enough. Stop paying these ridiculous taxes. They may call it a fee, but it is still a tax. If I have to pay a tax to haul a container out of one of the California ports they will need to find another way to move their container. It should not matter whether the truck is a long haul truck or not. Long haul trucks are not going to pollute any more than a local truck.

[allan5oh]

All the trucking companies should simply "pass on" these costs to the customer. That's what the big telephone companies did when the FCC came out with a bunch of fees for them. Here's a site explaining:

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/phonebills/samplePhonebill.html

[GMAN]

Unfortunately, Allan, there are too many carriers who will take those loads for a cheap rate and still absorb the fee. There is no need for otr carriers to be subjected to paying an additional fee that the local trucks are exempted. I don't see why otr should be treated any differently than the local trucks.

[fdmax]

Your Right GMAN, some carrier's do take cheap freight. The Day-Pass is paid by the shipper.
But it's a must for O/O's to negotiate a rate that does include a profit, because if you take a load without negotiating a fair rate, we left money that will keep us in business.....
This can never be said enough..........Tell the Shipper or Broker, what your rate is.
I have Haz-Mat, TWIC, SeaLink, SCAC, E-Modal, UCR, KY, AR, NY, NM, OR, CA, IFTA, IRP IRS, BOE, BOC3, 2290, Truck, Fuel, Insurance, Driver(me), accessories....ect, ect, ect.
Tell them what your rate is, "negotiate" a fair price.
And if they don't pay for what it's all worth, I'll say no, thanks.

[eplurubus]

Don't worry LightsChromePickleParkStalker......

Now that's funny!

[rigidsporty]

Beginning October 1, 2008, pre-1989 trucks will be banned. The program progressively bans all trucks that don't meet 2007 emission standards by 2012.

So much for my plan to save up and buy an older truck.

[fdmax]

I have a 2003 Pete with a C-15 475HP.
And I like it just fine.
And it's paid off.

Retrofiting an emission is possible,
one contact is IronManParts.com
http://www.ironmanparts.com/iro_index.cfm?id=svcs
I mistakenly wrote the wrong web page in my other post (ironman.com <<< wrong).
Ironmanparts.com say they have a diesel particulate filter they could put in and service too.

They say on the web page that the internal guts need to be professionally cleaned on a regular basis to maintain performance.
And during the cleaning process, heat and high pressure is used to burn and blast off, any baked-on diesel soot and particulate matter to reopen the small air passages in the diesel particulate filter.
This is their # (800) 889-1882 , never hurts to ask what it would cost.and how it really works.

You can read about the regulations at www.epa.gov
and at www.arb.ca.gov

It's all really intense reading, but basically these two agencies are holding hands, EPA has the money CARB wants some of that money.

I just want to keep on truck'in. I'm barely broken in, and so is my truck.

[rgordon212]

I can see China and other countries sending their cargo ships to Mexico or over to Houston instead of Cali ports just to save the $$$$ fees on the millions and millons of containers they ship....

I personally wont haul into cali for less than $5 miles, because all the friehgt I ever find comming out is usually under $1mile???

Also note that the "2007 Emissions" regulations that they are putting into place are ONLY for trucks plated in California. If your truck is plated elsewhere you will be fine.

[fdmax]

“Truck and Bus Regulation”

PROPOSED REGULATION
Title 13, CCR, section 2025

The "2007 Emissions" for Small Fleets – Small fleets can delay compliance until 2013 for one vehicle, 2014 for the next, and 2016 for the third if the second is 2010 model year engine.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/regact/2008/truckbus08/appa1.pdf

Page 8
Exemption for Low-Use Vehicles and Three Day Pass Vehicles.
(A) Vehicles that drive less than 1,000 miles or operate less than 100 hours
per year are exempt from the requirement of the regulation but must
continue to report and keep records.
(B) The mileage accrued during emergency operations need not be counted in
determining whether a vehicle meets the definition of a NOx mileage
exempt vehicle.
(C) Vehicles that exceed the 1,000 mile limit must comply with the regulation.

*(D) Each year, a fleet may allow one vehicle within that fleet to travel in
California for one single three day period per year without complying with
regulation.

[fdmax]

I've only hauled a few HVCC a year for 2006 and 2007, none 2008, and i think, the year 2007, the day pass started, not really sure, but, prior to Oct 1 2008 the day pass was paid by the shipper. Now there this at the Ports Begining Oct. 1, 2008.

DRAYAGE SERVICES

CONCESSION AGREEMENT

FOR ACCESS TO THE
PORT OF LOS ANGELES

http://www.portoflosangeles.org/CAAP...eement_New.pdf
Page 9

2.1 Concession Fees
2.1.1 (A one time Concession fee of $2500) will be assessed to the Concessionaire.
The Concession fee shall be collected at the time of submission of the
Concession Application.
2.1.2 For each Permitted Truck, (an annual fee of $100) will be assessed to the
Concessionaire (Annual Truck Fees). The Annual Truck Fees will be collected (i)
within 30 days of the Effective Date of this Concession for Permitted Trucks
registered as of the Effective Date, (ii) within 30 days of registration of additional
Permitted Trucks into the Drayage Truck Registry, and (iii) on the annual
anniversary date that each Permitted Truck was registered in the Drayage Truck
Registry (unless the Permitted Truck was registered prior to October 1, 2008 in
which case its anniversary date shall be October 1). Trucks for which an annual
fee has been paid for a particular year may be registered under multiple Port of
Los Angeles Concessions without the payment of any additional annual fee of
that year.

Landline said long haul trucks can enter the ports 12 times annually, ($100 a pop) until they roll out a permanent day pass plan in Jan 2009.

The commission said they would hold a public hearing on all the port plans, but any resolution will take until Jan. 22, 2010.
Since they did'nt listen to the truckers before,then why would they resolve anything.
OOIDA sent me a survey, they're going to try something, or at least look busy.
The Federal Maritime is investigating, prolly to see if they can squeeze some heavy money out of the ports.
Seems like everywhere is a freakin race to socialism and Big Government.

[ELGAUL]

you caught that too bigdiesel,sounds like that peice of s@#t works for the other side..

[fdmax]

Don't feel like it's only you, its being seen all over.
A lot of carriers ie O/O are in a frenzy now cause theres no freight volumes to keep rates up, and the limited freight there is they're just trying to keep their doors open.
They know theres dozens of trucks for every load.
They'll just make a call and give it to the next carrier.