Quality Carriers threatening to match logs to satelite transponders

[lowrange]

Welcome, Big Brother!

[partssman]

And DOT being able to acess your qual com as you drive thry the scales ain't far off either I'd bet.

Hope they have plenty of drivers....they gonna need 'em if they start that

[Red Clay Rambler]

I assumed any company that uses Qualcomm/transponders was already doing that.

[lowrange]

I assumed any company that uses Qualcomm/transponders was already doing that.

The last time I had Qualcomm they weren't. A friend of mine used to drive for JB and he was always having trouble with the Qualcomm and logs, so maybe some are.

I stop and go, take breaks, nap, use the internet...it's going to be a pain if I've got to record every little thing I do and it's going to mess with the way I like to drive.

[partssman]

Most I reckon like a comapny I worked for used the qwual com just to keep up with equipment and communicate with drivers.....or so they said.

Couse I know of 2 companies right off that would have to hire a wad of drivers and buy more equipmnet if they started running legal, bet you do too.

[lowrange]

Most I reckon like a comapny I worked for used the qwual com just to keep up with equipment and communicate with drivers.....or so they said.

Couse I know of 2 companies right off that would have to hire a wad of drivers and buy more equipmnet if they started running legal, bet you do too.

I probably don't do 2,000 miles a week, yet I like to relax when I want to relax and drive when I want to drive. I could spend a lot of time just drawing little lines if I have to record everything. They've taken away split logging, nobody sleeps for 10 hours but some of us need to sleep a little during the day!

[allan5oh]

A company is essentially required to use every tool under its power to ensure you're logging legally, otherwise they're setting themselves up for a huge lawsuit.

Could you just see it now? Huge fatal accident, involving a truck. Turns out the truck may have been running over hours.

Lawyer to company representative :

"So you guys use the qualcomm system, we know it logs where the truck is, do you use this system to match the logbooks of the driver, to ensure compliance?"

"no"

case closed.... multi-million dollar settlement....

[lowrange]

A company is essentially required to use every tool under its power to ensure you're logging legally, otherwise they're setting themselves up for a huge lawsuit.

Could you just see it now? Huge fatal accident, involving a truck. Turns out the truck may have been running over hours.

Lawyer to company representative :

"So you guys use the qualcomm system, we know it logs where the truck is, do you use this system to match the logbooks of the driver, to ensure compliance?"

"no"

case closed.... multi-million dollar settlement....

How common is this, then?

Also, we don't use qualcommon. But they put these transponders on the trailers.

Seriously, we all know logbook rules are rough and they'll never know when a driver is actually tired and when he's actually alert like the driver himself can judge. Arguments can be made in favor of logbook rules, but they contradict the way I like to run and what I'm comfortable with. It's one thing to make us do logs that generally reflect what we've done, it's another thing to computer and satelite check them minute by minute. I hate it, but like everyone else, I'll do what I have to do.

[allan5oh]

Unfortunately it doesn't matter when you're tired, when you're not tired, when you can run, or when you cannot run.

What matters is, if your logbook is legal or not. Have you broken federal laws?

[Red Clay Rambler]

I don't think lowrange is interested in cheating, my guess is he doesn't want to fool with having to draw a line for every 15-minute catnap, etc.

[Orangetxguy]

I assumed any company that uses Qualcomm/transponders was already doing that.

The last time I had Qualcomm they weren't. A friend of mine used to drive for JB and he was always having trouble with the Qualcomm and logs, so maybe some are.

I stop and go, take breaks, nap, use the internet...it's going to be a pain if I've got to record every little thing I do and it's going to mess with the way I like to drive.

I've been at Miller 18 months. They have matched logs against the QC and fuel receipts the entire time.

[lowrange]

I don't think lowrange is interested in cheating, my guess is he doesn't want to fool with having to draw a line for every 15-minute catnap, etc.

Thank you.

[allan5oh]

Just for the record, I was not accusing anyone of fudging their logbooks.

[GMAN]

There are a number of things a carrier can do with qualcomm. They can check your mpg, average speed and even set your maximum speed. They can give real time locations within minutes. I don't personally care for qualcomm, but when you work for a carrier who does use them and they want to match their records with yours, it is best to work with the system.

[lowrange]

Just for the record, I was not accusing anyone of fudging their logbooks.

No, no, don't apologize for accusing me or anyone of fudging the logbook. If we can't tell the truth anonymously on a message board, then...

I look at it like this: which is most important for doing a logbook, a watch or a calculator? If your answer is 'a calculator', you fudge your logbook. But, that doesn't mean you run 3300+ miles per week or that you run 800 miles in a day. What it does mean is that you don't want to spend 10 hours just sitting around all day because you got to your consignee at midnight and began unloading at 7 am.

[Walking Eagle]

Also even if your carrier doesn't compair logs with Qualcom DOT can if they come in to do an audit. They just pick drivers at random and have their past XXX months of Qualcom reading printed out (believe Qualcom "hits" the truck for location every 15 minutes automaticaly, more if dispatcher is watching you, and then you have to explain how you got from Baltimore to Pittsburg in 30 minutes

[lowrange]

Also even if your carrier doesn't compair logs with Qualcom DOT can if they come in to do an audit. They just pick drivers at random and have their past XXX months of Qualcom reading printed out (believe Qualcom "hits" the truck for location every 15 minutes automaticaly, more if dispatcher is watching you, and then you have to explain how you got from Baltimore to Pittsburg in 30 minutes

Have you ever, ever heard of anyone getting a ticket that way? Even right now, I'm catching up on the internet: this board, a sports board, email... You know, I really don't draw all that many lines...

[BIG JEEP on 44's]

The DOT can't use the QC against you in court...the qc is not always accurate ...it can lose track of the vehicles location . Unless you're werner an the qc is the log the dot has to go by the drivers log not qc

[Walking Eagle]

Just ask CR England, 1999 they paid $100,000 something fine for letting drivers run illigal logs after DOT checked against QualCom. 2001 CCC $97,000, Oh and you could ask Landstar, couple of years ago the got a hefty one over the trucks that run QualCom, why they got so anal over logs the last few years. They may not go after the driver but they go after the company, and you know that is gona put you right at the top (favorite) spot with dispatch. Right.

[rgordon212]

Log it as you do it..... there is NO reason for you to go over the 14hr rule, and 11hrs is plenty of time to drive during the day. If you think otherwise and you use the excuse "i dont make any money if I dont push it the extra" then you need to find another job because your at the wrong place making the wrong amount of money

Just my .02 and i'm sure there will be plenty of you who disagree with me, but the point is to be safe and make it there, even if it's late, than not at all..... work smarter and not harder.