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    Default Issues Concerning O/O's and why we should sit home 4/1/8

    1. Fuel prices; fuel has skyrocketed in price at the pump, while Exon continues to record record profits of over 60 billion dollars a year. We need to see caps on how high the cost may go at the pump!!

    2. Brokers; We are continually asked to haul loads where the brokers take a 20 to 30 % cut off the top. Why should we pay them so much for making a phone call or two? We would like to see Government controls on brokers and how they charge for loads!! Possibly a "Truth in Brokering" laws where we can look at confirmation sheets on our loads!!

    3. DAC reports; This report, or should we say fallacy of a report, has and continues to hurt good drivers due to a bad report turned in, without any evidence to verify the fault.

    4. Unloading and lumper's; Why should we have to take part of the pay (which has already been chopped by brokers) and pay a receiver to take their product from our trucks? Even worse, we have to sit at their dock while that freight is re stacked to fit in their warehouse! Our deliveries should be pulled from our truck, counted, and our bills signed so we can be on our way!

    5. Truck Parking; we are faced with a situation where there are more and more trucks on the highways, and less and less places to park and get our rest. We need more rest areas, and local governments to all truck stops to enlarge their parking areas so we have room, safely, to rest!

    6. Hours of Service; We need representation in the discussions on changing these rules, we are the ones out here week after week doing our jobs, we know what will work and what will not work! We do not need CRASH, MADD, the ATA, and the TEAMSTERS making these rules for us!!!!

    7. Uniform laws state to state, with uniform fines also; We believe that the government needs to step in where individual states are gouging truckers on fines, charging outrageous fines for simple log violations and speeding offenses.

    8. Uniform speed limits on Interstate Highways; we need to be able to run the same speed in the interstates as the smaller vehicles are allowed to run. Reports have been published, by the University of Michigan, and AAA, that state differing speeds between large and small vehicles is unsafe due to the increase of accidents that happen.

    9. On the road repairs; Why is it that when we are away from home, it can cost as much as double and triple as much to get repairs done?

    This is by far not the end of the list, but just a beginning. As we get resolution on 1 or 2 of these issues, we hope to continue on to other issues until we feel the industry is going in the direction WE THE TRUCKERS need to see it go in!!!!!

    As you think of other issues, and hopefully possible solutions to them, share them in this forum, so we can get them up and address them in other forums.

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    3. DAC reports; This report, or should we say fallacy of a report, has and continues to hurt good drivers due to a bad report turned in, without any evidence to verify the fault.
    You can dispute what is on a DAC report and have it removed.

    5. Truck Parking; we are faced with a situation where there are more and more trucks on the highways, and less and less places to park and get our rest. We need more rest areas, and local governments to all truck stops to enlarge their parking areas so we have room, safely, to rest!
    It's not up to the local Government to provide parking for trucks. Can't find a place to park, PAY FOR A MOTEL THEN!!!!!!!!!

    6. Hours of Service; We need representation in the discussions on changing these rules, we are the ones out here week after week doing our jobs, we know what will work and what will not work! We do not need CRASH, MADD, the ATA, and the TEAMSTERS making these rules for us!!!!
    Just what we need, drivers driving tired. Without the regulations you would have drivers driving tired and compaines FORCEING drivers to drive tired!

    9. On the road repairs; Why is it that when we are away from home, it can cost as much as double and triple as much to get repairs done?
    Cost of doing business for both parties. Maybe it costs them shops MORE for rent and to have parts shipped in then it does where you live. Ever think of that?

    This is by far not the end of the list
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    Default Re: Issues Concerning O/O's and why we should sit home 4/1/8

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmon man
    1. Fuel prices; fuel has skyrocketed in price at the pump, while Exon continues to record record profits of over 60 billion dollars a year. We need to see caps on how high the cost may go at the pump!!

    2. Brokers; We are continually asked to haul loads where the brokers take a 20 to 30 % cut off the top. Why should we pay them so much for making a phone call or two? We would like to see Government controls on brokers and how they charge for loads!! Possibly a "Truth in Brokering" laws where we can look at confirmation sheets on our loads!!

    3. DAC reports; This report, or should we say fallacy of a report, has and continues to hurt good drivers due to a bad report turned in, without any evidence to verify the fault.

    4. Unloading and lumper's; Why should we have to take part of the pay (which has already been chopped by brokers) and pay a receiver to take their product from our trucks? Even worse, we have to sit at their dock while that freight is re stacked to fit in their warehouse! Our deliveries should be pulled from our truck, counted, and our bills signed so we can be on our way!

    5. Truck Parking; we are faced with a situation where there are more and more trucks on the highways, and less and less places to park and get our rest. We need more rest areas, and local governments to all truck stops to enlarge their parking areas so we have room, safely, to rest!

    6. Hours of Service; We need representation in the discussions on changing these rules, we are the ones out here week after week doing our jobs, we know what will work and what will not work! We do not need CRASH, MADD, the ATA, and the TEAMSTERS making these rules for us!!!!

    7. Uniform laws state to state, with uniform fines also; We believe that the government needs to step in where individual states are gouging truckers on fines, charging outrageous fines for simple log violations and speeding offenses.

    8. Uniform speed limits on Interstate Highways; we need to be able to run the same speed in the interstates as the smaller vehicles are allowed to run. Reports have been published, by the University of Michigan, and AAA, that state differing speeds between large and small vehicles is unsafe due to the increase of accidents that happen.

    9. On the road repairs; Why is it that when we are away from home, it can cost as much as double and triple as much to get repairs done?

    This is by far not the end of the list, but just a beginning. As we get resolution on 1 or 2 of these issues, we hope to continue on to other issues until we feel the industry is going in the direction WE THE TRUCKERS need to see it go in!!!!!

    As you think of other issues, and hopefully possible solutions to them, share them in this forum, so we can get them up and address them in other forums.
    More :dung: from a welfare seeking wannabe......

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    I've been on strike for a week...rates are lower this week than last. Hope this starts working soon

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    2 words:

    EXHAUST LEAK

    3 more words:

    GET IT CHECKED



    You can't honestly think you're going to get anywhere with that?!? 90% of drivers out there disagree with you...how far do you think you'll get with the government?

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    There is a simple solution for all of the above. Nobody said, that you MUST do it! Find yourself another job, and be happy with it! :wink: 8)
    Pessimist,- is just well informed optimist!

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    I learned long ago that it does not pay to argue with people in forums....there will always be some numb nut-jerk off ready to tell you exactly the opposite of what you post....

    Could give 2 ****s less what the same batch of **** ups have to say..just getting the word out.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmon man
    I learned long ago that it does not pay to argue with people in forums....there will always be some numb nut-jerk off ready to tell you exactly the opposite of what you post....

    Could give 2 ****s less what the same batch of **** ups have to say..just getting the word out.....
    Answer my question !!!

    Can I have your truck since you are seeking welfare ????

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    Could give 2 ****s less what the same batch of **** ups have to say..just getting the word out.....
    Good luck. We'll chat again next year over the same cup of cold coffee.

    The problem is, you just don't get it. Every year, it's the same thing. 100 different ridiculous demands on paper and that's as far as it ever gets. A couple dozen drivers decide to take a vacation over the alleged "strike" week while all the rest are hollering on channel 19, complaining about all the alleged injustices while they rumble down the road at 80 mph or idle all night in a truck stop.

    Want to make a difference?

    1. Run compliant

    2. Quit speeding

    3. Reduce idling

    4. Don't take cheap freight

    The solutions are simple...problem is, no one wants to use common sense and realize the savings by doing the above. Instead, you're looking for government handouts and turning 90% of the population against you.

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    Default Re: Issues Concerning O/O's and why we should sit home 4/1/8

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmon man
    1. Fuel prices; fuel has skyrocketed in price at the pump, while Exon continues to record record profits of over 60 billion dollars a year. We need to see caps on how high the cost may go at the pump!!

    So when they put caps on how much you can make,that will be ok by you?


    2. Brokers; We are continually asked to haul loads where the brokers take a 20 to 30 % cut off the top. Why should we pay them so much for making a phone call or two? We would like to see Government controls on brokers and how they charge for loads!! Possibly a "Truth in Brokering" laws where we can look at confirmation sheets on our loads!!

    Key word "asked" no where have I seen it written that you must take such loads.

    3. DAC reports; This report, or should we say fallacy of a report, has and continues to hurt good drivers due to a bad report turned in, without any evidence to verify the fault.

    As said,there are ways to dispute errors.

    4. Unloading and lumper's; Why should we have to take part of the pay (which has already been chopped by brokers) and pay a receiver to take their product from our trucks? Even worse, we have to sit at their dock while that freight is re stacked to fit in their warehouse! Our deliveries should be pulled from our truck, counted, and our bills signed so we can be on our way!

    not a requirement to be an O/O.

    5. Truck Parking; we are faced with a situation where there are more and more trucks on the highways, and less and less places to park and get our rest. We need more rest areas, and local governments to all truck stops to enlarge their parking areas so we have room, safely, to rest!

    Plenty of parking,if you are willing to stay away from major truck stop chains

    6. Hours of Service; We need representation in the discussions on changing these rules, we are the ones out here week after week doing our jobs, we know what will work and what will not work! We do not need CRASH, MADD, the ATA, and the TEAMSTERS making these rules for us!!!!

    No disagreement from me here,but careful what you wish for

    7. Uniform laws state to state, with uniform fines also; We believe that the government needs to step in where individual states are gouging truckers on fines, charging outrageous fines for simple log violations and speeding offenses.

    I'm for less government from all fronts

    8. Uniform speed limits on Interstate Highways; we need to be able to run the same speed in the interstates as the smaller vehicles are allowed to run. Reports have been published, by the University of Michigan, and AAA, that state differing speeds between large and small vehicles is unsafe due to the increase of accidents that happen.

    true statement

    9. On the road repairs; Why is it that when we are away from home, it can cost as much as double and triple as much to get repairs done?

    Ever here of estimates and negotiation?

    This is by far not the end of the list, but just a beginning. As we get resolution on 1 or 2 of these issues, we hope to continue on to other issues until we feel the industry is going in the direction WE THE TRUCKERS need to see it go in!!!!!

    Let us know if you get resolution on 1 of these,not likely

    As you think of other issues, and hopefully possible solutions to them, share them in this forum, so we can get them up and address them in other forums.
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    It is already starting in PA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIMmFouYeOQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter823
    It is already starting in PA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIMmFouYeOQ
    A bunch of fools wasting fuel. I'll wave when I pass through later today.

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    nevermind

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter823
    nevermind
    I'm sorry. Was that not the response you were looking for? How about this one:

    OMGZ TEH TRUCKERSS IS GOIN MAKE FUELZ CHEEP AGAIN!!!!!!!1111ELEVEN

    Is that better?

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    Like I said in the other post, I am sorry you can't partake in this event. We successful independents will be glad to take up your slack.

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    PWND!

    NOOBCAKES!

    Or in the words of whatever his name is over on that other site....

    "10-4! Copy that!"

    ....On every post!!



    It bears repeating. If you want a change:

    1. Run compliant

    2. Quit speeding

    3. Reduce idling

    4. Don't take cheap freight

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    TWF, you are barking up the wrong tree,most independents I know if not all of them run compiant, don't speed, don't idle and don't haul cheap freight. We have been doing these things since fuel went up several years ago. Look what it got us. :shock:

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    TWF, you are barking up the wrong tree,most independents I know if not all of them run compiant, don't speed, don't idle and don't haul cheap freight.
    Then you don't know very many independents. For every independent that runs compliant, doesn't idle, follows the speed limits and says no to cheap freight, there are 500 out there that do the exact opposite and then have the nads to whine about it.

    I've followed the alleged truck strikes every year and they all turn out to be a joke. This year, the joke is bigger than ever.

    I don't disagree that high fuel prices are a pain in the ass. But they should not be a pain in the ass to independents and companies who know how to run a successful business. Successful companies will adjust as needed; successful independents will adjust as well. The rest will whine pointlessly about it all the way to bankrupcy.

    It's all about supply and demand. As long as you have idiot 4-wheelers driving their 6 mpg Hummers and SUV's down the road at 80 MPH and bad boy BBR's running their overpriced and overpowered rigs down the road at the same speed, prices will remain where they are. After these people have lost their mode of transportation and the rest of the thinking populace have restricted and/or changed their driving habits, demand will fall, supply will rise, and prices will go back down.

    Economics 101.

    What part of this is so hard for people to understand?

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    well lets see i drive 65 when the speed limit is 65 and i pass a few company trucks but i get passed by o/o all nite long....? and if the o/o are not speeding then can you tell me why our 68 mph truck can't keep up with most o/o running on I-5 i know i've tried and yes we do go 57 in cal.

    and if thay are so smart at making money then WHY are the driving the most fuel inefficient trucks on the road. just have to have that great big hood huh

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    No wrong again, I know quite a few independents. And yes I have taken Economics 101 which is actually Ecn125 along with Ecn221 micro, 225 macro, 324,328,330,421 & 428 and I can assure you sir this is not about supply and demand. This is also not about being able to run a successful business, that is being done. This is about getting raped at the pumps.

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