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    Quote Originally Posted by ash_ca_la
    Quote Originally Posted by pepe4158
    Quote Originally Posted by merrick4
    Pepe sorry to digress here, but I see that you are thinking of joining Landstar, what happened? I know you had low expenses, what has been your biggest problem? Curious to hear your experiences.

    Well just think I can make more $ there.....and still have all the benififts of my independence. I mean I am making it and keeping myself afloat, but this is getting to be too much headache when I can possibly make the same or more at Landstar I am coming to the conclusion of since talking to Landstar drivers.

    I mean all the headaches of running you own authority versus the profits in pay is not really making me excited about my first year as a carrier.

    I quess its my own fault tho in one sense...that I am not aggresive enough to find shippers, but it isnt an easy process I will tell you, and getting $ out of brokers I'd rather pull teeth from rattlesnakes for a living :-p....even with Load its good tips on shippers nothing seems to work-out for me.

    I wont lease some where I dont have the same freedom though...landstar or somewhere similar is all I will consider.
    Hello pepe

    Sorry to hear about your trouble. I have been leased to other carriers for all of my trucking carreer and when I get home next year I'LL be trying to do my own authority. I don't like the lack of total independence that I have seen being leased to some-one else. I was with Landstar and quit after the first year. I did'nt like it because they were to cold n uncareing.

    They seem to fire people for no or very small reasons ??? Some people praise them but I'm not one of them. Some people have been with them for a long long time and done well. But a lot of others don't. I was with a outfit called Greentree 1800-233-3262 that treated me well before I parked mine and came over here. I hope you get this problem taken care of.

    Did you see that post about a guy that had the same problem you did and then went n loaded another load for the same outfit n called them from the truckstop after he loaded n told them he had their load on and that as soon as they got right with him he would deliver the freight ??? Then after he got the check on a comcheck he took the load back to the shipper and made them take it off n left !!! JUST A IDEA FOR YOU ???
    lol...tempting but dint think it would work...to far in it n sure one rat would smell another coming lol Ian books all himself...cuz hes really a small op, and hed know somethings up when i called on the other load, woulda worked b4 a month sgo, but i had a decent allen lund load then...wasnt thinking about a non-payer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Flyer
    I got screwed out of one load last year because I waited too long to file on the bond. I agree with the others; "get on it" and call their bond company. I have to pay my bills, and I have NO sympathy anymore for these brokers that won't pay their bills. :x
    Think that pisses me he admits the shipper payed him...if the shipper didnt...I could feel some sympathy...hes feeding himself well on my $ while i eat caned goods :-p
    Well screw this own authority though like i said...its too much hassels in my opinion and not worth all the extra work i gotta do n problems that the lease Co would handle......
    I quess im just being kinda lazy, but I cant help but notice that all the many problems im facing its not worth the little extra $ im getting versus leasing somewhere good.
    I dont want to get big...so im better posibly to lease next year I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pepe4158
    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Flyer
    I got screwed out of one load last year because I waited too long to file on the bond. I agree with the others; "get on it" and call their bond company. I have to pay my bills, and I have NO sympathy anymore for these brokers that won't pay their bills. :x
    Think that pisses me he admits the shipper payed him...if the shipper didnt...I could feel some sympathy...hes feeding himself well on my $ while i eat caned goods :-p
    Well screw this own authority though like i said...its too much hassels in my opinion and not worth all the extra work i gotta do n problems that the lease Co would handle......
    I quess im just being kinda lazy, but I cant help but notice that all the many problems im facing its not worth the little extra $ im getting versus leasing somewhere good.
    I dont want to get big...so im better posibly to lease next year I think.
    Pepe- you are being kinda lazy. When you go to a lease company, you wont be satisfied with the 19 year old dispatcher booking your loads, so you will find your own loads (what you are already doing), then they will take their cut and not pay you until your broker pays them, how do you know when the broker paid them? Now you still have a problem and you have it for less revenue.
    You should concentrate on finding 4 trucks to lease on to your authority, pay them 75%. Now you have about 100% revenue of 1 truck coming in with little expense, you could do 2 things. 1. run your truck and collect the 100% or 2. collect the 100%, lease out your truck and sit home keeping the 4 trucks busy. You cant be in this business without headaches, so choose your migraine.

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    You should concentrate on finding 4 trucks to lease on to your authority, pay them 75%. .[/quote]

    Load it,
    Why would a guy lease onto Pepe instead of getting his own authority?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmon
    You should concentrate on finding 4 trucks to lease on to your authority, pay them 75%. .
    Load it,
    Why would a guy lease onto Pepe instead of getting his own authority?[/quote]

    There are plenty of guys looking for a good place to lease their trucks. I have given Pepe half dozen shippers in his area that need trucks daily. He could start there. The best way to start a trucking company is with owner operators. I think the question should be "Why would a guy get his own authority when Pepe can lease him own and make him rich?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOAD IT
    You cant be in this business without headaches, so choose your migraine.



    What.......headaches in this business??!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOAD IT
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmon
    You should concentrate on finding 4 trucks to lease on to your authority, pay them 75%. .
    Load it,
    Why would a guy lease onto Pepe instead of getting his own authority?
    There are plenty of guys looking for a good place to lease their trucks. I have given Pepe half dozen shippers in his area that need trucks daily. He could start there. The best way to start a trucking company is with owner operators. I think the question should be "Why would a guy get his own authority when Pepe can lease him own and make him rich?"[/quote]

    You know I have been thinking of othis for the future. Actually I met someone the other day in a truckstop and we exchanged phone numbers and he wanted to do that. He spoke basically no English and I was helping him with a couple of things. I think this type of scenario might work out for me once I hit two years and can get better insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmon
    You should concentrate on finding 4 trucks to lease on to your authority, pay them 75%. .
    Load it,
    Why would a guy lease onto Pepe instead of getting his own authority?[/quote]
    because people are lazy. Everybody wants to drive the truck but they don't want to do any of the things required to make the truck run.

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    Makes sense. The next Landstar is in the making.

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    Thks all for the suggestions (been too busy to respond)....yeah the last ideas make sense...but not really for me, think it will be better for Merrick.
    Lot of people commented when I first got my authority I was just, 'buying a job' and their right cuz of my unuque sitauation with my wife in the Philippines....it just wouldnt work for me trying to be the next landstar right now lol...wife would shoot me for not seeing her enough.
    When I go home I travel 25,000 miles or so to Manila and Im almost due........planning to put the truck in storage soon n sell the trailer so I can head out soon....a lease that is flexable with me would make sense...if there is 1?...where I can come n go as I plz...mulling over my options now.
    N thks Loadit....yeah they were good contacts, but I quess im not good at developing them as I take no for an answer too easily probably.
    yes I understand a different headache, but cuz of my married life I think ill be better off with a lease headace right now then own authority...it takes too much time of consistency to delelop a clientel (own authority) and I need to take off soon instead.

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    Once i held the entire load in my trailer because they did not pay me..
    They did next day.

    Currently am owed 8K for 2 weeks of work done for a broker out of Illinois, i returned my trailer i was leasing and went to their yard to pick up theirs. Its in my yard now...

    No mercy for these lowlife scumbags..

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    Quote Originally Posted by pepe4158
    Thks all for the suggestions (been too busy to respond)....yeah the last ideas make sense...but not really for me, think it will be better for Merrick.
    Lot of people commented when I first got my authority I was just, 'buying a job' and their right cuz of my unuque sitauation with my wife in the Philippines....it just wouldnt work for me trying to be the next landstar right now lol...wife would shoot me for not seeing her enough.
    When I go home I travel 25,000 miles or so to Manila and Im almost due........planning to put the truck in storage soon n sell the trailer so I can head out soon....a lease that is flexable with me would make sense...if there is 1?...where I can come n go as I plz...mulling over my options now.
    N thks Loadit....yeah they were good contacts, but I quess im not good at developing them as I take no for an answer too easily probably.
    yes I understand a different headache, but cuz of my married life I think ill be better off with a lease headace right now then own authority...it takes too much time of consistency to delelop a clientel (own authority) and I need to take off soon instead.
    Hey Pepe

    If your going to lease to some-one I would suggest some-one other than Landstar. A lot of people have been with them a long time but they were and still are so rude to some people. I was there 1 year and left because of the people and attitude problems. I was with GreenTree out of Pittsburg Penn. They treated me real real good and have sister companies just like Landstar. Next day pay and no hassells . THeir number is 18002333262. I was there 4 years . I don't think they would squak about you parking the truck to go n see the wife. A lot of the guys I work with over here have girls in the Phillipines that they go n see on RNR. I did'nt mean to rain on anyones contract with Landstar that is doing well with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOAD IT
    You should concentrate on finding 4 trucks to lease on to your authority, pay them 75%. Now you have about 100% revenue of 1 truck coming in with little expense, you could do 2 things. 1. run your truck and collect the 100% or 2. collect the 100%, lease out your truck and sit home keeping the 4 trucks busy. You cant be in this business without headaches, so choose your migraine.
    How exactly does this work? I mean what if you get someone who turns out to be lazy? Don't you have to run the under your insurance? So if they don't run you still have to pay the insurnace? I know probably not collision etc, but liability and cargo

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    Quote Originally Posted by merrick4
    Quote Originally Posted by LOAD IT
    You should concentrate on finding 4 trucks to lease on to your authority, pay them 75%. Now you have about 100% revenue of 1 truck coming in with little expense, you could do 2 things. 1. run your truck and collect the 100% or 2. collect the 100%, lease out your truck and sit home keeping the 4 trucks busy. You cant be in this business without headaches, so choose your migraine.
    How exactly does this work? I mean what if you get someone who turns out to be lazy? Don't you have to run the under your insurance? So if they don't run you still have to pay the insurnace? I know probably not collision etc, but liability and cargo
    For every truck that you lease onto your authority, you cover the cargo and liability each month, you can put it in your contract that the operator will be deducted for this, you can pay it all from your percentage or you can find creative ways to pay it. If you get a lazy job hopper, you may want him to pay by deduction, but if he is lazy the insurance company should allow you to drop that truck and replace it with another truck. To answer your question, yes the insurance still has to be paid if the truck doesnt run.

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    How exactly does this work? I mean what if you get someone who turns out to be lazy? Don't you have to run the under your insurance? So if they don't run you still have to pay the insurnace? I know probably not collision etc, but liability and cargo
    Here's how it USED to work:
    If you were running five or more trucks you would pay by the mile based on your quarterly IFTA reports. The quotes I was getting worked out to around 5 cents a mile. A lazy driver won't penalize you. Less than five trucks, the underwriter wants a flat rate per truck payable up front or financed monthly.

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    Ummm he finally paid...or at least sent me a check, crossing my fingers to see if his check clears and doesnt bounce
    Ohhh yaeh and OOida helped me quite a bit with Info and even a shakedown call to Ian......I highly recommend OOIDA as being one of the best moves I ever made as a small O/OP own Auth.

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