I Need A Good Used Dump Truck

[Little Big Brother]

Can any of you truck guru's help me find a good used reliable dump truck 1994 - 2002 I want a 13 speed triaxle Pete or Mack or KW any of those three. I'm looking to spend $50.000 I have the money all ready please help me out thanks

[MADLUX]

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[floored]

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ditto

[Little Big Brother]

Which make and model would you suggest of the three. As far as reliably is my concern thanks for your replies

[Kranky]

Which make and model would you suggest of the three. As far as reliably is my concern thanks for your replies

Mack CL 713 with E7 454 Mack engine T2130 Mack 13 speed, Mack 44,000 lb rears on Mack camelback spring suspension.

A nearly indestructible setup for dump truck use.

Stay away from any dump truck on air ride suspension - they're useless off road and very unstable when dumping.

[SoCal79]

Well there are alot of factors to consider but for $50k I think you can do well. I like Peterbilts because it is easy to get parts for, I had an International and liked it but after it hit the 10 year old mark the IH dealer made it hard to look up parts that were IH specific, Freightliners seem to hold less value than Petes and KW's but like any other truck set up properly are good choices. What type of work are you going to do? Material where light weight is a concern and involves alot of road driving so air ride is nice, Dirt & demo you need a good demo box made from AR or T-1 steel and probably will be spending alot of time driving in the dirt so my experience has been that spring susp. works best especially Hendrickson,air ride trucks get stuck pretty easy in the dirt. If you are going to pull a trailer you will want something with 400+ HP but I have found that big power trucks tend to break stuff in the dirt. As far as wheelbase I like 230" 240" at most and try to find a truck that is a factory dump chassis or daycab avoid converted road trucks they tend to have higher miles are geared wrong and have huge fuel tanks that hang down just begging to get smashed. Depending on your experience you will learn more as you go and probably end up switching trucks til you figure out what works for you.

[floored]

I agree about the airbags, get a good spring set up. Some of the transfers have the bags and they have quite the gansta lean going at times!

I LOVE my Freightliner. I also have a buddy with a MACK and it never has problems.

[Kranky]

try to find a truck that is a factory dump chassis or daycab avoid converted road trucks they tend to have higher miles are geared wrong .

And they also have a 12,000 lb front axle where you need an 18,000 or 20,000 lb front axle for a dump truck.

[floored]

most and try to find a truck that is a factory dump chassis or daycab avoid converted road trucks they tend to have higher miles are geared wrong

I hear ya on the gearing, mine is great for freeway but sucks when I've got the grinder behind me (I go too fast in the granny gear for it)

[Little Big Brother]

Well I will mostly be hauling asphalt concrete contaminated dirt gravel just about anything they ask of me

[Fredog]

Well I will mostly be hauling asphalt concrete contaminated dirt gravel just about anything they ask of me

nothing will hold up as well as a Mack. I wouldnt use anything else for a dump truck, be sure to get a steel bed, aluminum will limit what you can haul.

[Fredog]

Which make and model would you suggest of the three. As far as reliably is my concern thanks for your replies

Mack CL 713 with E7 454 Mack engine T2130 Mack 13 speed, Mack 44,000 lb rears on Mack camelback spring suspension.

A nearly indestructible setup for dump truck use.

Stay away from any dump truck on air ride suspension - they're useless off road and very unstable when dumping.

I agree except I would go with the Mack 8 speed with deep reduction, then you can go anywhere. my company has 25 of them and they just run and run with no problems, the few autos they bought are nice but they have trouble on steep hills and only get 3 mpg

[jegzus]

Here's a nice truck, it is a little more than you were looking to spend but it is in great shape. In fact I've even seen that truck around while at work when I go to a customer there in Roseland, NJ. That guy kept that truck spotless all the time.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2001-...QQcmdZViewItem

[marylandkw]

Great advise from many people on here but I will add my .02.

What type of bed you get is going to vary alot on what you plan to do. Here in Maryland alot of dump trucks routinely travel upwards of 100 miles with regular "gravel" on the interstate. Most if not all of this work is paid by the ton. A steel body would garner some extra work but not enough to sacrifice an extra ton or two in per ton rates.

I have always run an air ride truck and have never had a problem as a result. Sure there are some job sites you are not gonna get as far into as a result but my opinion is you don't really want to go that deep anyways.

I run a 3.73. Alot of dump truckers would tell you that is no good but I prefer to plan on what I do 99 percent of the time and not 1 percent. Now when I get off road(seldom to never) I have to take it easy. When I am running in front of a milling machine, I have too run in low range and let the miller fill from back to front then pull up and start over.

When you do asphalt it is very handy to have the full 24 inch overhang on the back of the truck. This helps it mate better with the paver and prevent spilling on the ground in front of it.

And feel free to IM me if I can answer any specifics of Maryland dump trucking from weights too tags.

[Fredog]

Great advise from many people on here but I will add my .02.

What type of bed you get is going to vary alot on what you plan to do. Here in Maryland alot of dump trucks routinely travel upwards of 100 miles with regular "gravel" on the interstate. Most if not all of this work is paid by the ton. A steel body would garner some extra work but not enough to sacrifice an extra ton or two in per ton rates.

I have always run an air ride truck and have never had a problem as a result. Sure there are some job sites you are not gonna get as far into as a result but my opinion is you don't really want to go that deep anyways.

I run a 3.73. Alot of dump truckers would tell you that is no good but I prefer to plan on what I do 99 percent of the time and not 1 percent. Now when I get off road(seldom to never) I have to take it easy. When I am running in front of a milling machine, I have too run in low range and let the miller fill from back to front then pull up and start over.

When you do asphalt it is very handy to have the full 24 inch overhang on the back of the truck. This helps it mate better with the paver and prevent spilling on the ground in front of it.

And feel free to IM me if I can answer any specifics of Maryland dump trucking from weights too tags.

just be aware of the limitations with aluminum beds. we had a haul where we were clearing out some woods, there were HUGE rocks, some weighing several hundred pounds. it paid $32 a ton, and went 25 miles..the guys with the aluminum beds were left out on that one, one of the owner-ops went and got a new truck after that with a steel bed

[phantom]

DON'T GET AIR-RIDE!!!! You can't go wrong, with Hendrickson, or chalmers suspension! KW T800 ALL THE WAY MAN! I've owned a t800 tri-axle, with 18k fronts, big flotation tires, double frame, the model, has the best driver visability, turning, ride! MAKE SURE YOU GET A DOUBLE FRAME.....TRUST ME.... a demo box, air-ride cab ONLY!! DON'T GET A SQUARE BOX, that's a mistake I made, & when there was big rocks, demo, to haul, I couldn't, or tear up my sand & gravel bed only..
the other trucks are o.k., just remember, no matter WHAT model, demo box, & NO AIR RIDE suspension, they lean to one side, don't work, worth
a damn off-road, & damaged air-bags are expensive!
DONT TRUST TRIPLE R DIESEL either......
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