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    Can a truck be plated in any state the owner chooses?
    If so, what are the advantages of plating outside of your home state?

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    Most states now require you to prove the state of residency. If you lease to a carrier, you will likely still need to prove residency. If you have your own authority, many states will require you to also have a business telephone listed in the companies name. The advantages to plating in one state over another is the cost. I just renewed in my home state for just over $1,400. I believe Louisiana charges about $1,200. Illinois costs over $2,000 with permits. More if you live in the state, so I understand. Some states have a sales tax exemption on class 8 equipment if you have a MC number or lease to a carrier who does. The exemption exists in my state, but not in an adjoining state.

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    There's generally a provision that allows a lease operator to plate in the company's state...not that that affects rank. In your case, the only way you could register somewhere else would be to open up a satellite office.

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    hey, what's up with the Oklahoma plates? I know alot of big companies get their plates in OK because of tax breaks or something like that. anyone know about this?
    It's fun living in the gray areas of a black and white world!

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    OK thanks guys. Great replies.

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    I just did mine in NH for $1,100

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    None of these states want to tell us how they calculate their rates. But it is based upon the number of miles you run in each state. Base plates will normally run higher in the big tax states such as Illinois and lower in small tax states such as New Hampshire or Louisiana. They assume that you will run more miles in your home state. When you initially register you will need to estimate your miles. Most states have an estimated chart you can use. It is supposed to be based upon an average mileage run in various states of those carrier's who get their base plates in your respective state. They never want to tell you the way they calculate the numbers. It's a BIG SECRET.

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    Many of the big companies used to plate in OK because registration is low and there's no sales tax on equipment. OK didn't have a residency requirement. This all came to an end a few years back when the other states got up in arms about all the revenue they were losing from their local companies. Now OK has a residency requirement just like everyone else, but apparently you can still register a trailer there without residency, although there's really no benefit.

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    Wish I could register my truck somewhere other than CA, my plates run about $2400 a year But since I only run in CA I don't think I could get them elsewhere?? Anyone know a loop hole? lol

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    Hello guys. I currently drive for Maverick, but will soon be leasing a truck to Landstar Express (expedite truck). Could someone tell me what all is involved with the IRP regisitration? I'm assuming that is the base plates your talking about.

    What information will I need to provide and how much do these plates cost for a truck that has 32k gvwr? I live in Arkansas.

    Thanks for the help!

    Arky

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    Arky, you can get your base plates through Landstar, if you wish. Otherwise, you will need to take a copy of your lease and go to your state IRP office if you want to get your own base plates. It will likely cost less to get your own plates in your home state. Most states use an estimate of miles when you register. The only way to tell for sure is to go to their office and fill out the form. They will tell you the figure once they input all the data. It should cost less with the smaller vehicle than a class 8 truck. If you are leasing to Landstar they usually their base plates through Illinois. They can give you the cost for Illinois. Illinois is one of the higher states for base plates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floored
    Wish I could register my truck somewhere other than CA, my plates run about $2400 a year But since I only run in CA I don't think I could get them elsewhere?? Anyone know a loop hole? lol

    Floored, it might cost less for you to base plate your truck for all 48 states rather than just California, even if you only run California. If you have a way to establish residency for you or your business in another state, you could probably use another state. Otherwise, I think you are stuck with California.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMAN
    Quote Originally Posted by floored
    Wish I could register my truck somewhere other than CA, my plates run about $2400 a year But since I only run in CA I don't think I could get them elsewhere?? Anyone know a loop hole? lol

    Floored, it might cost less for you to base plate your truck for all 48 states rather than just California, even if you only run California. If you have a way to establish residency for you or your business in another state, you could probably use another state. Otherwise, I think you are stuck with California.
    When I had my OTR truck I had purchased base plates for it through CA (per my carriers lease) and it was also $2400 even though the truck ran all 48. So I was suprised to learn it was the same rate for the truck that stays in state. From what I can tell the weight fees are what kill me. Anyway I was thinking of getting my LLC in Wyoming, maybe they have more affordable base plates? But then would I have IFTA to worry about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnk2001
    hey, what's up with the Oklahoma plates? I know alot of big companies get their plates in OK because of tax breaks or something like that. anyone know about this?

    Heard a funny joke when I was coming home with the truck and talking to someone in OK....dont remember it all, but something to the fact a lot of truck drivers were buying little plots of land, puuting up only a mailbox, and calling it a residency lol
    That topic came out of me wanting to buy my trailer in OK if I got the plates and permits to come with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveBooth
    I just did mine in NH for $1,100
    Was it with "estimated" miles?
    Cause my first NJ plates, cost me just that. But already the next one, was$1,650.
    Pessimist,- is just well informed optimist!

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    thanks Gman. I've owned a few dump trucks over the years and am driving for Maverick currently but this is all new territory to me. I'll call Landstar next week and talk to them.

    thanks for the help,

    Arky

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    Quote Originally Posted by solo379
    Quote Originally Posted by SteveBooth
    I just did mine in NH for $1,100
    Was it with "estimated" miles?
    Cause my first NJ plates, cost me just that. But already the next one, was$1,650.
    Yes, it was estimated. Since I haven't been driving a whole year yet the lady who helped me fill out the form at the registry said it could be done this way. She said next year, I need real figures.

    I kind of assumed it would be the same every year? I see on the form the price for each state. I didn't really read the form, I just went into there office and the girls did it for me. It's very informal and relaxing in NH. It's an office environment and you sit down at there desk and they can do everything.

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    The first year your fees are based upon estimated miles. Your subsequent years will be based upon actual mileage. Changes can occur from year to year based on where you run. If you primarily run in the higher tax states, your base plates will likely run more than if you were to run in the lower tax states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMAN
    Arky, you can get your base plates through Landstar, if you wish. Otherwise, you will need to take a copy of your lease and go to your state IRP office if you want to get your own base plates. It will likely cost less to get your own plates in your home state. Most states use an estimate of miles when you register. The only way to tell for sure is to go to their office and fill out the form. They will tell you the figure once they input all the data. It should cost less with the smaller vehicle than a class 8 truck. If you are leasing to Landstar they usually their base plates through Illinois. They can give you the cost for Illinois. Illinois is one of the higher states for base plates.

    when u say a copy of the lease you mean with the carrier you are leased to??

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    I am seriously considering buying a plot of land next year in OK.....say 100 miles of OK city.......hmmmm dont you have to have a shack or some type of structure to call it my corprate HQ's :idea: :idea: :idea:

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