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Ohtsu, Toyo, or Double Coin?
Hey Fellers,
I am headed to the tire shop today for a new set of drive tires. Just wondering if anyone has anything good or bad to say about the above tires. Toyos are most expensive; Ohtsu in the middle of the pack, and the Double Coins are the least expensive... comments? :?
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not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled,
or where the doer of deeds could have done better.
The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena;
whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood;
who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again;
who knows the great enthusiasms,
the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy course;
who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement,
and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly;
so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls
who know neither victory or defeat."
Theodore Roosevelt
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Maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't bother with any of those. I run BFGoodrich DR444's on my drive's in an 11R 24.5, and that is all I run. Buddy of mine's dad ran Double Coin's on their trailers when they had drivers pulling them b/c they were cheap and drivers could tear them up and they wouldn't be as costly to replace. Never heard of Ohtsu so I'd rule that out. I don't go with cheap/generic...of those three, I'd go with the Toyo's if you're set on one of the above.
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Mountain..Ohtsu is a good drive tire. You will get as good mileage out of them as you would Michelen. They make a good trailer tire as well.
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I have run Toyo and they seemed to do all right. I currently have Double Coin on my International. They are doing very well. I just learned from one of their executives that International will be putting Double Coin on their trucks from the factory. I don't recall if it will be model specific or not. Double Coin is manufactured in a joint venture by Michelin and the Chinese government. I have been experimenting with various brands over the last several years. Two brands I will never own again are Kelly and Goodyear. They won't stand behind their warranties. From what I am seeing in my personal experience, the foreign brands are wearing as well, if not better than some of the American brands.
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And if you do your own tire work, Goodyears are notoriously tough to mount on the rims.Originally Posted by GMAN
That's not just my opinion, a lot of tire guys around here say that too.
Michelin & Bridgestone are a dream to work with, they practically fall onto the rim.
If you can't shift it smoothly, you shouldn't be driving it.
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My oldman will only run Michelin and he will only recap his caseings 1 time.
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+1 Michelin.
I have almost 250,000 miles on my ZXA3's. If I had kept the toe in check as well as the air pressure, I'm sure I could've hit 300,000.
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I have Toyo steers that seem to be doing well and have seen folks say they are the best steers but don't know about their drives? I had worn out Double Coins on the drive axle when I got the tractor and they wore evenly but I don't know how long they lasted. I too had a tire dealer tell me that Double Coins were Chinese made Michelens and that they no longer carry them because they became too expensive compared to lesser known brands. Our local Goodyear shop sells mostly Triangle brand now that nobody wants to pay $600 for a Goodyear :shock: . We haven't had any for long enough to say they are great but so far so good -we just bought two more today for a trailer for $300 each. We use steer tires on our trailers as the Goodyear trailer tires didn't last long in short haul - them tight city deliveries and too many pivot turns eat them right up :shock: .
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I dismounted 4 goodyear drives from dayton wheels last fall off a junker we have and mounted them on hub piloted wheels for my tractor and they were insanely stiff for sure :shock: ! Couldn't beat the price though (free) 8) .
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toyos have stood up great for me on a flat spread. the gave me good long life on drives also.
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Thanks for all the comments guys. After conferring with a trusted friend who has run all 3, I ended up going with the Ohtsu's. They are Japanese made; the Sumitomo Tire Company makes them as their truck line. Supposedly the 837 Ohtsu wears very well... so that's what I bought. The Toyos would have been my next choice. They were about $30 more per tire, and I think would have been good. I had heard the Double Coins do not wear as well, so passed them up... interesting that International might be putting them on their new trucks, though. Could be they are just fine.
In any event, I now have a good set of tires all the way around, a fresh oil change, and a load booked for Monday morning. Life is good...
"It is not the critic who counts,
not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled,
or where the doer of deeds could have done better.
The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena;
whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood;
who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again;
who knows the great enthusiasms,
the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy course;
who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement,
and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly;
so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls
who know neither victory or defeat."
Theodore Roosevelt
Administrator
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I am glad you got things worked out on the tires and a load to boot.
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Thanks Gman... this is the first time in a long time that I will be hitting the road without "something wrong". I had low oil pressure so did the bottom overhaul in January (3 grand fixed that problem)... then I had the miss in a cylinder and just generally crappy running truck; new injectors (another 3 grand) fixed that problem... Then I had worn out drive tires and some worn out tires on the trailer... you got it: another 3 grand fixed THAT problem! :sad:
Anyhow, the truck is (for now) fixed and running good with working lights and legal tires all the way around. 8) Time to hit the big road! :P
"It is not the critic who counts,
not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled,
or where the doer of deeds could have done better.
The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena;
whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood;
who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again;
who knows the great enthusiasms,
the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy course;
who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement,
and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly;
so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls
who know neither victory or defeat."
Theodore Roosevelt
Administrator
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Hey, it is only money. That is why we make the big bucks! :wink:
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Keep us updated on the tire wear!
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I have had good luck with the Double coins, no premature failures, even wear and beefy casings that take a beating.
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