HAULING FIREWORKS?

[sidman82]

Hauling fireworks. Has anybody done this? I just got a call from my broker and he has 20 loads of Fireworks to be delivered. I have my haz-mat and haz-mat permits. What other permits do I need? Has anybody hauled fireworks here that can enlighten me?

[sidman82]

Well, I just called the state and they are sending info for me to fill out.
If there is anybody again who has done this you can pm me or e-mail me.
I am looking for a rate to charge. It will be high of course. But how high should I go. I want somebody that knows what the rate should be on loads like this. I've hauled haz-mat before but never fireworks.

[carolina trucker]

Just curious, but what did the broker offer? And how far is the run in terms of miles?

-- c t

[sidman82]

Each load is about 90 miles. There is 25 of them. I called two permit companies and they have never dealt with this, go figure. :? NJ to NY are the loads. I figure $1000 a load. NY state is faxing over paperwork in the morning, and I have a permit company working on it also. Oh, my broker wanted me to give him a price, because he never dealt with this either.

[mike3fan]

It's no different than hauling regular hazmat,I hauled them in containers before and I don't believe you will come close to getting that rate,but I hope you do,we didn't get any extra for hauling them,just simple 1.4 placards

[sidman82]

I did find out I need special permits in NY. I just still need to find out how much I will pay for them and add it in to my expenses. The normal rate I get from NJ to NY is $425 for about 60 miles. So I figure with the added expense of permits and the hassle of getting them, along with the risk involved, I won't do it for less then $800 a load. If the broker can work with that, then so be it. If not, I probably won't do it. Thanks for the input.

[carolina trucker]

What kind of special permits do you have to have?

I didn't think fireworks was any different than hauling any other kind of hazmat -- which is just transported by a hazmat manifest along with the emergency response information and MSDS, along with having the truck placarded.

What am I missing here?

-- c t

[sidman82]

I am not 100% sure, but the woman on the phone said I do need a fireworks permit. They are illegal to have, use, sell, or transport in NY.
I will know tomorrow and post how I make out. You could be 100% right.

[Jackrabbit379]

Suicide Jockey :P

[repete]

I am not 100% sure, but the woman on the phone said I do need a fireworks permit. They are illegal to have, use, sell, or transport in NY.
I will know tomorrow and post how I make out. You could be 100% right.

WELL???

[Useless]

I've heard that it can be a real BLAST!!!

[Jackrabbit379]

Wouldnt want to make him mad. Might blow up on ya. :P

[sidman82]

Sorry guys, I was really busy last day or two and have had my head up my as*. I have not had time to call the state again, will try tomorrow as I should be done early.

Hey!! what happened to the spell check? Now I'm gonna look like an as* when I mispell things.

[sidman82]

Ok, you only need your haz-mat and nothing else. As someone stated earlier. The shipper is responsible for all transportation, warehousing, distribution permits, and so on, etc..., etc... You just have to make sure the shipper gives you the right paperwork when you pick the loads up. I gave my broker a quote for $650 a load. He is going to let me know, as these loads are in about a months time from now.

[sidman82]

Now, I really think I have it figured out. I do need a permit. It is a PERMIT TO TRANSPORT EXPLOSIVES (TA-6899) on the NY state Thruway system. Only if they are class 1.3G(Old Class B) , which they are.
1.4 class(Old Class C) explosives are the baby fireworks for the normal consumer. Class 1.3G are display fireworks for all the big shows and stuff. You may not use the Tappan Zee bridge or Castleton-on-hudson bridge for the big stuff. These are the kind of loads I am interested in hauling.(Class 1.3G) You also need $5 million in liability. The permit is $100 and is good for a year.

[mike3fan]

1.4 is the ones I hauled

[sidman82]

10/4

[Morraco]

I don't want to scare anybody but this post reminds me of a 1953 movie, Le salaire de la peur (The salary of fear), with Yves Montand, in which a bunch of desperate outcasts get to drive the most rundown trucks a worthless Latin Amarican country could furnish loaded with dynamite and extremely unstable nitroglycerine. The journeys were really dangerous, the driver's teeth rattling, hands shaking, faces dripping sweat by the bucketful, going into fits of panic at the smallest pebble lying ahead on the road; as the explosives could blow him sky high at the least shake up.

It should be a thrill!

[repete]

just wondering, what's a 5 mill. policy cost??

[sidman82]

I do not know because I don't have one. So I will be turning down those loads.