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    Default No headache rack needed?

    I was running with a flatbed o/o who was pulling a load of lumber and when I asked if he had ever been bothered by the DOT for not having a headache rack he told me that the rules had changed and one was not required anymore. I tried searching the net and came up with nothing. Has anyone else heard of this?
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    Default Re: No headache rack needed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jumbo
    I was running with a flatbed o/o who was pulling a load of lumber and when I asked if he had ever been bothered by the DOT for not having a headache rack he told me that the rules had changed and one was not required anymore. I tried searching the net and came up with nothing. Has anyone else heard of this?
    Nope. They're no longer requried.

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    Take a look at that red Pete involved in the FL turnpike crash and you'll wonder why,I know before you all jump on me,it did have one you can see it crushed into the sleeper,what I should say is every trailer should have a bulk head.

    I wonder if that load had been protected from moving forward at the trailer if the outcome would've been different?
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    i understand that you have to have either a headache rack on back of your tractor or a bulkhead on your trailer. one or the other or else!!!

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    Headache rack is no longer needed. When I pulled a flatbed, I had a 3-closet style Road Gear headache rack on the back of my W9. I honestly don't see a headache rack stopping anything from coming forward into the back of the cab...if I was going to buy a flat and run it, I would have a bulkhead on the front of the trailer...welded into place, and perhaps braced...I dunno. But I honestly don't see either one stopping 40k lbs. of cargo from crashing into the back of the cab if you slam on the brakes or rear-end something.

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    no longer required but foolish to run without one

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoopr
    no longer required but foolish to run without one
    agreed. Has to be worth some sort of protection. Like seats belts. Proven to save lives, but has cost lives as well.
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    I driven flatbeds along with dry and reefers. One company I pulled flat bed for I had only one back haul. 50,000 lbs Granite Block. If it decided to slide forward, side ways or backwards, God help who ever was in the way, The chains would not hold it, and the Headache Rack was not going to do anything but slow it a fraction. Chains are placed on it for looks to please the D.O.T. Seen to many break the chains. At the Musilem back home they show a Granite Block sticking out a Seaboard Railway Train Engine nose where it hit a Flatbed hauling a block.
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    Default Re: No headache rack needed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jumbo
    I was running with a flatbed o/o who was pulling a load of lumber and when I asked if he had ever been bothered by the DOT for not having a headache rack he told me that the rules had changed and one was not required anymore. I tried searching the net and came up with nothing. Has anyone else heard of this?
    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
    Nope. They're no longer requried.
    So, do they have that on the FMCSA website?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumbo
    I was running with a flatbed o/o who was pulling a load of lumber and when I asked if he had ever been bothered by the DOT for not having a headache rack he told me that the rules had changed and one was not required anymore. I tried searching the net and came up with nothing. Has anyone else heard of this?
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    Nope. They're no longer requried.
    So, do they have that on the FMCSA website?
    This is the best I could find for you:

    § 393.110 What else do I have to do to determine the minimum number of tiedowns?

    [Editor’s Note: The following paragraph is revised effective July 24, 2006.]

    (a) In addition to the requirements of § 393.106, the minimum number of tiedowns required to secure an article or group of articles against movement depends on the length of the article(s) being secured, and the requirements of paragraphs (b) and (c) of this section.

    (b) When an article is not blocked or positioned to prevent movement in the forward direction by a headerboard, bulkhead, other cargo that is positioned to prevent movement, or other appropriate blocking devices, it must be secured by at least:

    (b)(1) One tiedown for articles 5 feet (1.52 meters) or less in length, and 1,100 pounds (500 kg) or less in weight;

    (b)(2) Two tiedowns if the article is:

    (b)(2)(i) 5 feet (1.52 meters) or less in length and more than 1,100 pounds (500 kg) in weight; or

    (b)(2)(ii) Longer than 5 feet (1.52 meters) but less than or equal to 10 feet (3.04 meters) in length, irrespective of the weight.

    (b)(3) Two tiedowns if the article is longer than 10 feet (3.04 meters), and one additional tiedown for every 10 feet (3.04 meters) of article length, or fraction thereof, beyond the first 10 feet (3.04 meters) of length.

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    they are no longer required the fmc reg that rev put in is the one to reference to. All that is required that extra straps, chains, etc must be used. It is up to the dot officer to decide if you have enough tie downs on the load. A headache rack that I have on the truck i drive is only about 500#. I will agree i would rather have the rack than not.
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    I bought my truck 1.5 years ago; the fellow I bought it from had 3 flatbed trailers he was running; didn't have headache racks on any of them. He told me that you needed some extra securment on the front of the load.

    I wanted one, so put one on my truck shortly after I bought it... I also researched... thought I HAD to have one, but after researching, determined the guy I bought the truck from was right. I didn't have to have it. But, well, I have it.

    I honestly believe if a heavy load of freight ever came forward, it would just make a nice aluminum lid for your coffin :wink: However, it's good for climbing on when you are tarping the front of your load or crawling up on it. I bought a pair of folding steps and mounted them on the headache rack; it helps a lot when getting up onto the load or whatever.
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    Thank ya, Rev. I was telling my buddy about this, and he wasnt sure about it. I'm not too keen on some of the securement regs, so that's why I asked, to show him. Thanks.

    If I pulled a skateboard, I would rather have the rack, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379
    Thank ya, Rev. I was telling my buddy about this, and he wasnt sure about it. I'm not too keen on some of the securement regs, so that's why I asked, to show him. Thanks.

    If I pulled a skateboard, I would rather have the rack, too.
    I can just image what Dawn would have said if you would have asked her for the reg.

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    Aint no tellin :P

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    They changed the rules about a year or two ago, I believe. While no longer required, I prefer having a headboard on my trailers. It may not stop something heavy, but could slow things down a bit. :wink:

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    ive got a 94 model transcraft all steel trailer. it has a massive headboard welded at the front of trailer. it was made that way. i see a lot of small gauge steel headboards looks as if it was just bolted on to satisfy regulation, not really to stop anything. mine though looks as if it would stop anything ,except a heavy suicide coil. anyway glad to know about the change in the law. over 7 years over 1 mil mi & no wrecks & no breakdowns... talk about lucky!!!

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    No wrecks = good driver... No breakdowns? YOU just are one lucky guy!!! I have driven about 65,000 miles and have blown a radiator, blown several tires, and had to stop work to fix my truck more than once! :x

    However, hoping this year will be better. I started the year by doing some major work on the truck, and next week she's getting some new shoes on the drivers and the old drivers are going on the trailer, so maybe I won't blow so many tires.

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