Can you beat this load

[oldmanrandy]

This is a 205 ft rig. it appears to have at least 4 pivot points.

[oldmanrandy]

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Sorry, I missed the image the first time[/img]

[terrylamar]

Looks like you missed the second time also!

[oldmanrandy]

I am new at this.
could you go to the site and fix it for me.
I saw this unit up close, just can't imagine it going around corners.

[wot i life]

Eric Harrison, the top driver of a company I worked for, took this load out.
Its a fair old size eh? His tractor unit weighs 44tonne

[classicxl]

now that would be an intersting drive pulling that trailer

[terrylamar]

A 1,200 ton stamping press, wrapped in black, arrived at Lincoln Manufacturing Sunday cradled in a 205-foot trailer. That's about three times the length of a big rig, and has 20 axles and 78 tires. The $4 million press is the largest of its type in the nation, according to engineering manager Kiyoshi ***uyama. (Kiyoshi ***uyama photo).

How's them apples?

[oldmanrandy]

thanks for the help terrylamar

[Useless]

A 1,200 ton stamping press, wrapped in black, arrived at Lincoln Manufacturing Sunday cradled in a 205-foot trailer. That's about three times the length of a big rig, and has 20 axles and 78 tires. The $4 million press is the largest of its type in the nation, according to engineering manager Kiyoshi ***uyama. (Kiyoshi ***uyama photo).

How's them apples?

No, Officer!!! I SWEAR it did't take me more than 15 mins. to hook up and do the pre-trip!!!
:shock:

[mikey4069]

Whats the total weight ?

[brian]

o0o0o someday i`ll have a massive 14 axle lowboy like that

damn me and my priorities I knew I shouldn`t have built a house first

[ssoutlaw]

o0o0o someday i`ll have a massive 14 axle lowboy like that

damn me and my priorities I knew I shouldn`t have built a house first

The normal O/O could not even afford the payments on the trailer alone, not to mention all the extra money to set the tractor up...lol
A company I used to haul for bought a used 1 something like that one and I think paid like 260k, and I know the truck to haul it probably around 175k. What do you think the payments for truck and trailer would be?

[brian]

o0o0o someday i`ll have a massive 14 axle lowboy like that

damn me and my priorities I knew I shouldn`t have built a house first

The normal O/O could not even afford the payments on the trailer alone, not to mention all the extra money to set the tractor up...lol
A company I used to haul for bought a used 1 something like that one and I think paid like 260k, and I know the truck to haul it probably around 175k. What do you think the payments for truck and trailer would be?

normal O/O must = broke to you then

we`ve already got an 8 axle that my wifes company had no problem paying for, i`m also guessing you have no idea what those loads pay, we had the opportunity to bid a job moving a 120k generator from the port of long beach to anchorage last minute that would`ve paid 13$ a mile had our trailer been able to handle the weight, so tell me how much 13x3700 is? a little over 48 grand for one trip, minus expenses we still would`ve cleared 42k.

[ssoutlaw]

o0o0o someday i`ll have a massive 14 axle lowboy like that

damn me and my priorities I knew I shouldn`t have built a house first

The normal O/O could not even afford the payments on the trailer alone, not to mention all the extra money to set the tractor up...lol
A company I used to haul for bought a used 1 something like that one and I think paid like 260k, and I know the truck to haul it probably around 175k. What do you think the payments for truck and trailer would be?

normal O/O must = broke to you then

we`ve already got an 8 axle that my wifes company had no problem paying for, i`m also guessing you have no idea what those loads pay, we had the opportunity to bid a job moving a 120k generator from the port of long beach to anchorage last minute that would`ve paid 13$ a mile had our trailer been able to handle the weight, so tell me how much 13x3700 is? a little over 48 grand for one trip, minus expenses we still would`ve cleared 42k.

No, a normal O/O means someone who is doing OK for themselves, Not these guys with a lease option, In my opnion they are not O/O anyway, and Im not putting those guys down with this statement, see the disclaimer at bottom...lol you said BROKE not me!
You also say your wife's company, either you work for her, or she works for a company, so the normal O/O doesn't apply to them, So why chime in, it has nothing to do with you. You make it sound like your wife's company success is your own.
Most of my last 30 yrs have been with oversize loads, so why try to discredit me. I made a simple statement that the normal guy couldn't afford it, then you start bragging about the company your wife works for, like this gives you some weight in the trucking industry.
I know what these loads pay, I was talking about the price of the equipment. Can you go out yourself and afford this type of equipment? I sure cant. I don't believe any successful O/O on cad could either, not at somewhere over 400k for the equip. Remember with that type of equip drastically reduces the type of freight you haul, and is most times empty back. I don't even think the average O/O could even get the loan with out having the customers to show the bank they could handle the payment.
Besides would of or could of, they still didn't get the 13.00 a mile load!
Do you know how long it would take to do the 3700 miles, do you think the drivers who drive for this company do it cheap.
Between reroutes, drivers wages, escorts, local police escorts, height surveys and limited time getting through major city's, hotels, permits, and the likelihood of nothing for them to pull out of AK. if you were lucky maybe 9 days to deliver at maybe 400 miles a day, but probably less on the miles. I think they were smart to not take it at 13.00 a mile.
The statement I made was not meant to start a fight it was just a statement that the average guy could not do it.

Oh, and if you think 6 grand is really what the true expense for this load is, then you must not really know much about this type of the trucking industry.

[brian]

why would somebody become an O/O just to do OK? I could be a company driver and just do OK and not have any of the worries associated with being an O/O

and why can`t a woman own a trucking business? my wife owns her, one truck and the only work I do for her is maintenance and looking for a driver when the need arises, so yes I do consider it a success for the both of us. I think the average O/O who is good with his money could afford to buy the equipment neccessary as they built their business up but i`m of the opinion that somebody should be adding money to their savings every week without fail be it 20$ or 20,000$

we started off with a 77 kw I rebuilt and refitted for heavy hauling and a used landoll 3 axle lowboy, after 2 months we bought the 8 axle we have now, the only reason we didnt take the load is because we didn`t have a big enough trailer but that won`t be a problem soon enough, it sounds to me like your the kinda person who`s happy just floating by in life, I am not.

[ssoutlaw]

why would somebody become an O/O just to do OK? I could be a company driver and just do OK and not have any of the worries associated with being an O/O

and why can`t a woman own a trucking business? my wife owns her, one truck and the only work I do for her is maintenance and looking for a driver when the need arises, so yes I do consider it a success for the both of us. I think the average O/O who is good with his money could afford to buy the equipment neccessary as they built their business up but i`m of the opinion that somebody should be adding money to their savings every week without fail be it 20$ or 20,000$

we started off with a 77 kw I rebuilt and refitted for heavy hauling and a used landoll 3 axle lowboy, after 2 months we bought the 8 axle we have now, the only reason we didnt take the load is because we didn`t have a big enough trailer but that won`t be a problem soon enough, it sounds to me like your the kinda person who`s happy just floating by in life, I am not.

I never said a woman couldn't own a trucking company, where did you come up with this? I guess my Idea of OK is not the same as yours. I do not think you should just get by but OK to me is doing well for yourself, I will not get into what is well with you. don't dissect the words I chose. You are still nothing more than a mechanic to her, and if you think that 13.00 a mile bid for that load is good then you need to reconsider what is really good for you. I guess its a good thing for you all your conversation is on the Internet, because if someone were to meet you in person they would find you like to inflate the truth. Why don't you read my reply to you above and give a breakdown for that load you talked about, and show what your costs, time frame etc, don't be shy and don't leave a thing out. Everyone would like to see how a way better than average O/O could afford that load at that price. now who is just floating by?

[brian]

"You also say your wife's company, either you work for her, or she works for a company, so the normal O/O doesn't apply to them, So why chime in, it has nothing to do with you. You make it sound like your wife's company success is your own. "


oh I don`t know maybe it was that bunch of bs that made it seem like you didnt think a woman could run a trucking company


for someone who claims to have so much experience in the heavy haul business it sure seems like you`ve got your head up your ass, I never claimed I was rich or a "way above average O/O" as you put it but i`ll break it down for you anyways with the hope that you`ll possibly stop making an ass out of yourself.


we would`ve grossed 48,100$ before expenses at 13$ a mile.

I would`ve spent 4400$ on fuel to travel those 3700 miles with the truck and also my wifes escort vehicle , 400$ on food for me and the wife for 10 days on the road, 600$ on overlength and overweight permits and 1400$ for our second escort vehicle for 10 days.

so lets recap 48,100$ minus 6800$ in expenses equals 41,300$ pre tax, not a bad 10 days work if we had the trailer for it, so tell me again why 13$ a mile wasn`t a good rate for that load and why other companies weren`t touching it?

[ssoutlaw]

"You also say your wife's company, either you work for her, or she works for a company, so the normal O/O doesn't apply to them, So why chime in, it has nothing to do with you. You make it sound like your wife's company success is your own. "

You say:
oh I don`t know maybe it was that bunch of bs that made it seem like you didnt think a woman could run a trucking company

I say:
Still never even implied that.

You say:
for someone who claims to have so much experience in the heavy haul business it sure seems like you`ve got your head up your ass, I never claimed I was rich or a "way above average O/O" as you put it but i`ll break it down for you anyways with the hope that you`ll possibly stop making an ass out of yourself.


I say:
I never used profanity replying to you, why do you do it to me? Like mu origonal reply said " The normal O/O could not even afford the payments on the trailer alone, not to mention all the extra money to set the tractor up...lol"

You say:
we would`ve grossed 48,100$ before expenses at 13$ a mile.

I say:
That's about right for your figures.


You say:
I would`ve spent 4400$ on fuel to travel those 3700 miles with the truck and also my wifes escort vehicle , 400$ on food for me and the wife for 10 days on the road, 600$ on overlength and overweight permits and 1400$ for our second escort vehicle for 10 days.


I say:
Your saying your truck only gets .84mpg? I have been heaver than this and still managed near 2mpg
You think you can live on 20.00 a day for food each, I cant! What about hotels, I wont stay in the truck for all the time off you need for the oversize load.
The second escort at 1400.00 is only .378 cpm that is slave labor if you ask me, and he still has to pay for fuel, Ins, etc. I hope he also has a gig going back or he is out of business.
I guess your wife's escort docent make any money?
That 120k generator will still be tall, so what about your height survey, there not cheap. Now the pole car how much, but remember you still need 2 escorts over the pole car. The permits I think you are a little off for a 180lb permits, The weight may be even more, I don't know without knowing the weight of the equip. Now at 10 days that's 400 miles a day and this may still be pushing it with the hrs a oversize can run and what you will get yourself into. So for 2 weeks the driver will get 1200.00, that's cheap. 600.00 a week and I quit...lol


You say:
so lets recap 48,100$ minus 6800$ in expenses equals 41,300$ pre tax, not a bad 10 days work if we had the trailer for it, so tell me again why 13$ a mile wasn`t a good rate for that load and why other companies weren`t touching it?

I say:
Other company's wont touch the load because its too cheap. You are also looking at about a 2 week turn around. Say the driver gets lets say 35% that's about 1200.00 and with the equip you will have you are limited to what you can haul back, that's even if you have something coming back.
I would never even drive the load for under say 2600 to 3000 for the 2 weeks. Are you seeing what I'm saying now?
About 2 yrs ago I was offered 3 loads from Cinci, OH to swift current Saskatchewan for 19k each. 1777 miles 1 way and the company told them to go to he@l That load was around 11.00 per mile.12' wide 50' long, 16.7 total height for a grand total of 60k lbs. Equip was a 4 axle 379 and a stretch DD with a tag axle. With this equip it would have been easier than your case to get a return load, but in that area of Canada lumber would be the best bet, and lumber don't pay sh@t. Even MT would be no better for a return load, so more than likely empty home.

I need to learn how Rev answers each topic to make it look better on the post, sorry to all for the way it looks.

[Rev.Vassago]

o0o0o someday i`ll have a massive 14 axle lowboy like that

damn me and my priorities I knew I shouldn`t have built a house first

The normal O/O could not even afford the payments on the trailer alone, not to mention all the extra money to set the tractor up...lol
A company I used to haul for bought a used 1 something like that one and I think paid like 260k, and I know the truck to haul it probably around 175k. What do you think the payments for truck and trailer would be?

I plan to lease purchase one through C.R.E. and get paid $0.85 per mile. :wink:

[ssoutlaw]

o0o0o someday i`ll have a massive 14 axle lowboy like that

damn me and my priorities I knew I shouldn`t have built a house first

The normal O/O could not even afford the payments on the trailer alone, not to mention all the extra money to set the tractor up...lol
A company I used to haul for bought a used 1 something like that one and I think paid like 260k, and I know the truck to haul it probably around 175k. What do you think the payments for truck and trailer would be?

I plan to lease purchase one through C.R.E. and get paid $0.85 per mile. :wink:

Rev, how do you make the posts look so good with the quotes after every reply to the posters topic?