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Old 11-22-2006, 03:40 AM
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Would like your opionion on this Do you think that lease on with a company that 22% is to much. They pay 78% of gross pulling your trl. They furnish cargo and liability, permit you pull there freight out good rate nothing under 2.00 per mile plus 100% fsc. Backhaul you and company both look for reload. No forced dispatch Thanks
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Old 11-22-2006, 04:00 AM
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Would like your opionion on this Do you think that lease on with a company that 22% is to much. They pay 78% of gross pulling your trl. They furnish cargo and liability, permit you pull there freight out good rate nothing under 2.00 per mile plus 100% fsc. Backhaul you and company both look for reload. No forced dispatch Thanks
78% of what?


As far as percentage goes, 78% seems on the high end. I would guess (without knowing any of the details) that they are pulling cheap freight back in.

$2.00 a mile is nothing when you are getting garbage back, especially if that $2.00 a mile is BEFORE the 78%, knocking it down to $1.56 a mile.
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Old 11-22-2006, 04:29 AM
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Most percentage carriers seem to pay around 75%+- if you furnish your own trailer.
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Old 11-22-2006, 10:11 AM
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Hey Rev 78% of 100, the co. used the ld board to reload and yes most of it is cheap around 1.25 a mile,was looking over there contract and also had spoke with some of the O/O.
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Old 11-22-2006, 12:32 PM
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78% of gross isn't to bad at that rate. The thing I don't like is that you don't have much control over where you go with that $2.00 frieght! You may find yourself out in the boonies in a dead frieght area frequently, and your <u>overall</u> rate goes in the toilet, especially if the company is seeking frieght for your return.

You say "no forced dispatch", but if you turn down to many loads because you don't like where it's going or the rate sucks, you aren't going to be on the company's Xmas card list to long!
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Old 11-23-2006, 04:46 AM
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Thats cool you can find your own freight, especially if you are more resourceful than your dispatcher. On %, you can make (possibly) hundreds, if not thousands more a year

I pull for %55, so I must start hauling freight? 8) :lol: 8) :lol:
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Vontrial, living in MS, you would come out better getting your authority and hauling lumber at 100% gross rather than fleecing on to a carrier. Lumber can just be a start, so others here will tell you you cant make living hauling sticks. Your best bet is to run for 100%.
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It's all just a "numbers" game. Eventualy, it's all comes, to "all hub miles" rate.
For example;- If your average, "loaded" mile rate, is $2.00(all inclusive), and you are getting 70%, your average "all hub miles" rate per mile, is gonna be, around $1.20.

The same, applys to the "mileage" pay, with the slighter less difference.
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The thing about these % carriers that really ticks me off is the the fact that they have control over the price of that load, load may pay 3.00 per mile and they will tell you 2.00, which you will accept by any means without knowing a differnce in original price because they will not tell you.
i dont trust nobody in this buisiness and they can tell me whatever they want about their honesty, for me, its not worth a crap...


Only way that an individual can make something good in this buisiness is to broker your own freight, authority owner which is what am aiming at comming in July..
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Old 11-24-2006, 05:01 PM
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If you get your own authority you will still likely need to deal with brokers unless you have your own customers. So, you still will not know exactly how much the load pays. If you lease to a carrier who pays percentage, they should be willing to show you the confirmation order with the rate, if you ask. If not, then they are probably skimming off the top. On the other hand, you have to trust some people. You can't distrust everyone.
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