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  1. 10-20-2006 10:10 AM #1
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    When I was a company driver I had a rider policy that I paid $25.00 per month for and the riders could be as young as 13. Now that i'm an o/o leased onto a company the only rider policy is that all riders have to be at least 18 years old and I can only have one at a time.

    This policy is through the leased company. Is there any wat to add to the policy or change it to include younger riders?

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  2. 10-20-2006 10:30 AM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neckster
    When I was a company driver I had a rider policy that I paid $25.00 per month for and the riders could be as young as 13. Now that i'm an o/o leased onto a company the only rider policy is that all riders have to be at least 18 years old and I can only have one at a time.

    This policy is through the leased company. Is there any wat to add to the policy or change it to include younger riders?

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    The short answer is no. When you signed the contract to pull for a company, you agreed to the terms of the contract. There is a reason why they don't want riders under 18, and that is because of the liability that it puts on the company in the event of an accident.

    As far as only 1 rider at a time, you must legally have a DOT approved seat with a restraint device for every person in the vehicle. That means the bed is not a seat.
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  3. 10-22-2006 04:02 PM #3
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    As far as only 1 rider at a time, you must legally have a DOT approved seat with a restraint device for every person in the vehicle. That means the bed is not a seat.
    Let's scratch are head on this one, the bed? So what your saying Rev. is everyone has to be seated and strapped into a DOT approved seat?

    Well what do you think team drivers do when one is driving and the other is in the sleeper? Did they take out the bed and put some DOT approved seats back their?

    If you say this is a law, their is thousands of drivers breaking this law. I think Rev. has a FMCSR book that he added his own chapter.
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    I think Rev. has a FMCSR book that he added his own chapter.
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    Default Re: Passinger Rider Policy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neckster
    When I was a company driver I had a rider policy that I paid $25.00 per month for and the riders could be as young as 13. Now that i'm an o/o leased onto a company the only rider policy is that all riders have to be at least 18 years old and I can only have one at a time.

    This policy is through the leased company. Is there any wat to add to the policy or change it to include younger riders?

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    The short answer is no. When you signed the contract to pull for a company, you agreed to the terms of the contract. There is a reason why they don't want riders under 18, and that is because of the liability that it puts on the company in the event of an accident.

    As far as only 1 rider at a time, you must legally have a DOT approved seat with a restraint device for every person in the vehicle. That means the bed is not a seat.
    Oh, "GOOD REV"... Are you really sure about that one? If so, look at all the teams that are in violation. While one driver is behind the wheel, the other one is in something that is not an approved seat. Sleeping in the bunk. And, they HAVE to do that or they certainly can not run team. So, if the bed is not an approved seat, the co-driver does not belong there either. We've got a problem.
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    I took what he said to mean that there has to be a seat for every approved passenger, not that the passenger has to be in the seat. For example: 2 people in the truck: 2 seats. If you had 3 people in the truck and only 2 seats, that would be the problem.


    Just the way I read what he was saying
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    I took what he said to mean that there has to be a seat for every approved passenger, not that the passenger has to be in the seat. For example: 2 people in the truck: 2 seats. If you had 3 people in the truck and only 2 seats, that would be the problem.


    Just the way I read what he was saying

    it's called sarcasm
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    I seemed to miss the sarcasm in those replies. They seemed pretty serious to me.
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    devildice is right. I was "PICKING" on Rev.

    But, I have seen whole families in a truck. Mom, Dad, and all three kids. Not sure how they all get past the state scales. I do seem to recall in the book on Federal Regs, that it states you can only have 2 people in a truck. Don't remember what rule it was, and it may have been changed, but.... No, I don't think that one would have been changed.
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    I seemed to miss the sarcasm in those replies. They seemed pretty serious to me.
    stick around long enough and you'll be able to tell........in fact, stick around long enough and you may be the blunt of it too.....lol
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    What about all those Towel Heads running three so called drivers to a truck. They must have a secret compartment in the truck to hide one of them if they are stopped by the DOT.
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    I've seen a couple of "RAG-HEADS" in a scale-house. They do the same thing as the Mexicans... "DON'T UNDERSTAND". "No speak English". One scale master was going back for the last 7 days, and all they showed was 10 hours of driving, 10 hours of sleeping. No loading or unloading, no fueling, no time for eating. Just driving and sleeping. Maybe that's why the companies hire them. They can make 3 round trips across the country without having to fuel up even once. But, without loading and unloading, they aren't making much money for the company either.

    And... THEY DIDN'T GET ANY FINE FOR THAT..... :shock: :shock: :shock:
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    I just read an article about the terms RAG-HEADS and Towel Heads. There's a push because they are offended. They are not rags or towels but sheets and they would like to be referred to as "Sheet Heads"
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveBooth
    I just read an article about the terms RAG-HEADS and Towel Heads. There's a push because they are offended. They are not rags or towels but sheets and they would like to be referred to as "Sheet Heads"
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    Good thing no Muslims read this bb

    Anyways, Rev is right, again (sigh). 3 people in a truck would require 3 safety restraints. 2 in the front seat, and the restraint in the bunk to keep the person on the bed if the truck were to stop abruptly.

    When I was younger I knew the routine when I saw the weigh station sign- get in the sleeper and shut up until my Dad told me to come out again I've adopted that philosphy if I have like 2-4 helpers in my cab on the way to a job and we get to a weigh station.
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    BanditsCousin wrote:
    When I was younger I knew the routine when I saw the weigh station sign- get in the sleeper and shut up until my Dad told me to come out again I've adopted that philosphy if I have like 2-4 helpers in my cab on the way to a job and we get to a weigh station.
    You still jump in the sleeper and shut up?
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