Businessman turned truck driver NEEDS drivers.

[southernpride]

NEW? EXPERIENCED? or anywhere in between....

I'm lookng for TEAMS or a SWIFT CERTIFIED MENTOR, to run 2 trucks. If you are not already a team, but a solo driver who is willing to team, please contact me. Both trucks will be leased on to Swift.

As to avoid any confusion and so that expectaions are clear right up front:
Trucks- KW T660 or T2000. both are 2009
Drivers will be paid % of Truck income.

Team drivers (brand new) should have no problem averaging 33cpm
(or about 750/wk for 4500 mi. per driver)
experienced drivers up to 45cpm.
(1000+ per driver for 4500 mi)

4500 mile weeks are average. You could run more or less some weeks. thats up to you.

I expect each truck to run a certain # of miles per month, you determine what how long you have to stay out to get the miles. There are miles here for Team drivers. You just have to run hard and be willing to work. 14,000 miles/month is easily obtainable. I run 18,000+ with students without pushing too hard and getting good home time.

Unless you are 100% sure you can run hard and team, this is not 4 you.
***DRIVERS WILL BE CONTRACTORS NOT EMPLOYEES*** (but this may change)

Trucks:
both have sirius included
cobra 29 stock cbs, but you can put your own in if you like.
standard cab (i think the t2000 has more space)
40qt cooler
bunk heater.
Qualcomm

I pay for everything other than showers and hotels. (unless breakdown)
Fuel is at the drivers discretion but using swift terminals GREATLY increases profit, which increases pay for all three of us. The team will run the truck, and i will only get involved if there is a problem. Bonuses will be available for those who earn them and will be agreed to before you start driving. Everything will be in writing non of the he said she said stuff.

I am a family man and a Christian, and therefore believe that your time on the road should be utilized to increase the quality and quantity of time at home. Honesty and integrity are a vital.

ps. Payroll is professionally handled and predictable, direct deposit is available. Not issues with pay. EVER! You see what the truck makes, no secrets. its all above board here.

[ronjon619]

do you provide health ins?

[southernpride]

NO. since the drivers will be classified as a contractor not an employee i would not be able to do that. but i can put you in touch with a licensed agent who offers great prices on Blue Cross amongst others.

Thanks 4 asking.

[fatboytenn]

I would be willing to run solo or team with the matching characteristics. I am a male, clean,(trucks, and myself).I smoke and would be most satisfied if my partner also did... but where are you located before things go very far.. I am 52 years old and get along with most people. I am new to the trucking industry but I have been through training and solo for two weeks. I hold a CDL and also have physical for two years. fatboytenn@yahoo.com............i am in west Tennessee.

[Rev.Vassago]

***DRIVERS WILL BE CONTRACTORS NOT EMPLOYEES***

This is illegal.

[Jumbo]

I found it odd that he expects x amount of miles but pays on percentage. And then pays you as a contractor.

[gregw66]

My wife is training with a swift mentor now and we would be willing to team and run hard that's what we plan on doing, here lies the problem, i have the most exp. At 6m but were clean.

[southernpride]

This is illegal.

Would like to offer some sort of validation for that sladerous statement?

Here is mine, according to the IRS (whos guidlines are taken directly from National Labor Relations Board (NLRB)

(Independent Contractor (Self-Employed) or Employee?)

Common Law Rules:
1- Behavioral: Does the company control or have the right to control what the worker does and how the worker does his or her job? ***No, how the work is done is governed by the contract that 7-Forty-7 and Swift Trans, and subsequently, the contractor agrees to as terms of service.***

2- Financial: Are the business aspects of the worker’s job controlled by the payer? (these include things like how worker is paid, whether expenses are reimbursed, who provides tools/supplies, etc.) ***I controll the day i pay the contractor, and i pay according to an agreed upon number. Similar to commision, however i in no way limit the amount of a pay a driver may earn, nor do i REQUIRE the driver to anything other than the service for which pay is rendered. (ie uniforms, schedules, required production....) if you read the above i expect the truck to run a certain # of miles, i do not require it do so. However maintaining a profitable unit is part of the service i am paying the contractor for.

I also quite clearly stated "you determine what how long you have to stay out to get the miles."
AND
"Fuel is at the drivers discretion but using swift terminals GREATLY increases profit, which increases pay for all three of us. The team will run the truck, and i will only get involved if there is a problem." hmmmm..... sounds like independance to choose how and when to work. that not me controlling what times they drive and on what loads and where they stop and at what times now is it?

3-Type of Relationship: Are there written contracts****hence the term CONTRACTOTR!*** or employee type benefits (i.e. pension plan, insurance, vacation pay, etc.)? Will the relationship continue and is the work performed a key aspect of the business? ****The relationship is based soley on the service being paid for, once the terms of the contract are fulfilled, there are no further responsibilities***


Furthermore;

If you read IRS publication 3320-102. ( http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-utl/emporind.pdf ) it clearly states that if you can prove a prima facia case of 'reasonable basis', then the election is acceptable.

2 of those listed are: (even though you only need 1)

"Reliance on the advice of an attorney or accountant may constitute a reasonable basis"

and......

"Section 530(e)(2)(B) requires a "reasonable showing" of industry practice by showing
the taxpayer."

(TONS of o/o's classify their drivers as contractors.- including many at swift!)


*****************WHY YOU GOTTA ACT LIKE YOU KNOW WHEN YOU DONT KNOW?***************

Next time you want a gun fight, leave your little switchblade in ur pocket, ok? u might show your true ignorance or arrogance! or a bit of both!

[Rev.Vassago]

Would like to offer some sort of validation for that sladerous statement?

I'd be more than happy to.

You have claimed you own the truck. Therefore you are in control of where that truck goes, and what it does. Therefore that person driving the truck is an EMPLOYEE. Therefore paying them on a 1099 instead of withholding taxes is ILLEGAL. The very thing you quoted states just this:

Common Law Rules:
1- Behavioral: Does the company control or have the right to control what the worker does and how the worker does his or her job? ***No, how the work is done is governed by the contract that 7-Forty-7 and Swift Trans, and subsequently, the contractor agrees to as terms of service.***

Nice try, but unless the driver has complete control over the job, they are an employee. It doesn't matter that you pass it off to another party.

2- Financial: Are the business aspects of the worker’s job controlled by the payer? (these include things like how worker is paid, whether expenses are reimbursed, who provides tools/supplies, etc.) ***I controll the day i pay the contractor, and i pay according to an agreed upon number. Similar to commision, however i in no way limit the amount of a pay a driver may earn, nor do i REQUIRE the driver to anything other than the service for which pay is rendered. (ie uniforms, schedules, required production....) if you read the above i expect the truck to run a certain # of miles, i do not require it do so. However maintaining a profitable unit is part of the service i am paying the contractor for.

You admit you control the pay based upon what the driver does. Therefore they are an employee.

I also quite clearly stated "you determine what how long you have to stay out to get the miles."
AND
"Fuel is at the drivers discretion but using swift terminals GREATLY increases profit, which increases pay for all three of us. The team will run the truck, and i will only get involved if there is a problem." hmmmm..... sounds like independance to choose how and when to work. that not me controlling what times they drive and on what loads and where they stop and at what times now is it?

You've already admitted that Swift is controlling the "how" and "when" of working. Nice try though.

3-Type of Relationship: Are there written contracts****hence the term CONTRACTOTR!*** or employee type benefits (i.e. pension plan, insurance, vacation pay, etc.)? Will the relationship continue and is the work performed a key aspect of the business? ****The relationship is based soley on the service being paid for, once the terms of the contract are fulfilled, there are no further responsibilities***

ROFLMAO!

You have a contract, therefore they are a contractor? That's your flimsy argument? Come on!

The driver is running YOUR equipment! Is that driver able to run for whoever they want while driving your equipment? Can they suddenly, at a whim, deadhead all the way to Florida when they are sitting in Minnesota? If not, then you are controlling the equipment.

Nice try, though.

(btw - slander is for the spoken word)

Next time you want a gun fight, leave your little switchblade in ur pocket, ok? u might show your true ignorance or arrogance! or a bit of both!

[chris1]

You forgot who supplies the tools(truck). The only way to be legal is to "rent" the truck out. (something like a L/P)
The only thing that the carrier can control is fed/state regs pertaining to ICC(OMC) and the want/needs of the customer.

[ronjon619]

Looks like the Swift O/O bit off more than he can chew. Bottom feeding A-hole. Guys need work and hes trying to pull fast ones on unemployed drivers. I mean god damn theres guys answering help wanted threads that are two years old. I side with Rev on this one.

[doubleduty]

I am 48 years old and have 2 and a half years OTR experience. If you still need someone please e-mail me at pdcolston@gmail.com Thanks, and Merry Christmas!

[Windwalker]

NEW? EXPERIENCED? or anywhere in between....

Well, I have experience, and have a wife with a CDL. Up until a few years ago, we did run team. I've already put in for my retirement, but for the right situation, I could come out of retirement.

I'm lookng for TEAMS or a SWIFT CERTIFIED MENTOR, to run 2 trucks. If you are not already a team, but a solo driver who is willing to team, please contact me. Both trucks will be leased on to Swift.

Well, I've also been a trainer, though, never with (not so) Swift.

As to avoid any confusion and so that expectaions are clear right up front:
Trucks- KW T660 or T2000. both are 2009
Drivers will be paid % of Truck income.

Team drivers (brand new) should have no problem averaging 33cpm
(or about 750/wk for 4500 mi. per driver)
experienced drivers up to 45cpm.
(1000+ per driver for 4500 mi)

What does (not so) Swift have for a company speed limit? About 62.5 mph average? If so, then 4500 miles / week will put them over their 70 hours. Care to try something more realistic? (4500/62.5+72)

4500 mile weeks are average. You could run more or less some weeks. thats up to you.

I expect each truck to run a certain # of miles per month, you determine what how long you have to stay out to get the miles. There are miles here for Team drivers. You just have to run hard and be willing to work. 14,000 miles/month is easily obtainable. I run 18,000+ with students without pushing too hard and getting good home time.

Now, I do take issue. 18000 with students, without pushing too hard. HORSE APPLES! ! ! ! ! Read between the lines, and you're one of the A--HOLES running students in a team situation. Might as well just turn them loose with keys, truck, fuel card, and freight. They don't get a damned bit of training when you're sleeping in the bunk. That is not where the TRAINER is supposed to be while the trainee is driving.

Unless you are 100% sure you can run hard and team, this is not 4 you.
***DRIVERS WILL BE CONTRACTORS NOT EMPLOYEES*** (but this may change)

Trucks:
both have sirius included
cobra 29 stock cbs, but you can put your own in if you like.
standard cab (i think the t2000 has more space)
40qt cooler
bunk heater.
Qualcomm

I pay for everything other than showers and hotels. (unless breakdown)
Fuel is at the drivers discretion but using swift terminals GREATLY increases profit, which increases pay for all three of us. The team will run the truck, and i will only get involved if there is a problem. Bonuses will be available for those who earn them and will be agreed to before you start driving. Everything will be in writing non of the he said she said stuff.

And, before I sign it, can I take it to one of OOIDAs lawyers? What do you want to bet, I get advised not to sign it?

I am a family man and a Christian, and therefore believe that your time on the road should be utilized to increase the quality and quantity of time at home. Honesty and integrity are a vital.

ps. Payroll is professionally handled and predictable, direct deposit is available. Not issues with pay. EVER! You see what the truck makes, no secrets. its all above board here.

Quality and quantity of time at home? Really? Last time we ran team, the quality time spent at home was spent sleeping. And, for the "quantity", that came up a bit short. Sounds more to me like you are the one that plans to get the "quantity". Then, on top of that, signed on with (not so) Swift? Ummm.... Naw. I don't think so. Even at $0.60/mile, I don't think so. There are far better places to pull for than them. Nope. I do believe I'll stay retired.

[Musicman]

What does (not so) Swift have for a company speed limit? About 62.5 mph average? If so, then 4500 miles / week will put them over their 70 hours. Care to try something more realistic? (4500/62.5+72)

Please don’t think I’m sticking up for this “businessman”, ‘cause I agree he’s up to no good, but my normal cruising speed is between 60 and 62 mph and we usually average about 22k miles a month without killing ourselves. Most nights we have time to pull over and sleep together for at least six hours and quite often we will sit for most of a day on either Saturday or Sunday. In 2009, we took ALL of June off and still ran 194,787 odometer miles. In fact, we had 111 days off (at home) last year. How many miles you can run depends a lot on where you run, average length of run, whether or not you have to wait for another load once empty, how much drop & hook you have, and how efficient you are once you are moving.

Now, I do take issue. 18000 with students, without pushing too hard. HORSE APPLES! ! ! ! ! Read between the lines, and you're one of the A--HOLES running students in a team situation.

That or his idea of training is him driving 4,500 miles and the student driving 1,000 while he sleeps in the passenger seat. This is why I told my wife to take a bus home after three days with a SWIFT so-called trainer.

Quality and quantity of time at home? Really? Last time we ran team, the quality time spent at home was spent sleeping. And, for the "quantity", that came up a bit short. Sounds more to me like you are the one that plans to get the "quantity". Then, on top of that, signed on with (not so) Swift? Ummm.... Naw. I don't think so. Even at $0.60/mile, I don't think so. There are far better places to pull for than them. Nope. I do believe I'll stay retired.

I can tell you what has likely happened here. This “businessman” went out and got his own authority and contracted with Swift thinking that surely with his own authority he could turn a profit. He found out that due to rates dropping like a rock over the last 16 months, he was at best averaging maybe $1.10 per ODOMETER mile and that the only way he could make ANY money and not drive a truck himself was to find a couple of dimwits who just wouldn’t know when they were getting screwed over. Have you noticed how many brand new lease operator or contract carrier trucks are out there pulling Swift trailers? Swift is pulling a huge amount of freight at a loss (if they have company drivers run the loads) so they (and some other larger carriers) are really pushing people into trucks and even urging them to get their own authority so they can screw them and make at least a little profit . They really are shameless.

[831mateo]

Seeking owner operator for otr experience. Clean dmv and background, christian willing to work for free during training. have previous experience 20 years ago delivering local. matt 831-435-1136 located near san jose ca,

[denasmooch]

southernpride::: I would be proud to work for you, just reading all the blogs and the responses, man you know and are on top of your business. If you still need a driver contact me at 602 989 5436. My wife and I have team with US Express and then I worked for another O/O. Perfer the O/O vs the big companies. You may also contact at dena_smooch@yahoo.com.