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    i had 2 back in 94..allmost in the same month....everything was taken care off in 95, and have not drank since....

    the 2 tickets were coming home from the bar




    problem...no one wants to hire me.....am i unemployable in the trucking industry, even that i have not drank in 15 yrs.



    the 2 tickets were coming home from the bar

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    Some carriers will not hire anyone with even a single DUI. With two it is next to impossible to get on with most of them. There are some who will consider hiring someone with a DUI after 5 years has elapsed as long as there is nothing else on your record. The good news is that it has been more than 10 years since you received the DUI's. If the carrier only pulls your MVR then you may get it past them. Most of the larger carriers will also pull a criminal background check. Since a DUI is considered a criminal act it will likely show up. At least it wasn't in a commercial vehicle. That would really be the kiss of death.

    If this is something that you really want to pursue then the only thing that I could suggest is to keep knocking on doors. If you have not been drinking for more than 10 years then there may be someone who will take a chance on you. There is a company listings on the top of this page. Many of the larger carriers are listed along with their basic hiring requirements. It will be a start. If you plan on going to school to get your CDL you may also check with them and see if they can point you in a good direction prior to spending your money and time on training.

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    Doesn't matter where or how you got the 2 DUI's, you got them. Companies do not like to see anything like that for insurance purpose's. You may find a company that will take you with those if they are 10 years or older but some won't take you no matter how old they are. You need to look harder, they are out there, companies who will take you.

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    Kudos for recognizing the problem and dealing with it... :thumbsup: You might be able to find a local job. I know the smaller companies that do local freight like mine tend to be more lenient.
    If you are a friend of Bill W. it might help to use your sponsor as a reference and have him provide a letter confirming your 15 years of sobriety.

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    I also offer kudos for facing the problem head on.

    I just rolled 27 years sober this past March. I was already driving big trucks when I got it so I had some references but it still hurt my opportunities for a long time. I'm now over 2 million miles logged.

    Trippy Hippy has it right. The best way to start is local driving. Maybe check with some of the dirt haulers in your area just to get some time under your belt and to build some history. You might also check with some of the companies that haul freight cans out of the railyards. They may have some truck owners that are looking for drivers. It doesn't usually pay the best but it will get you some experience, maybe even some regional experience.
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    I forgot about the dumps. I know a guy near me who used to own several dumps and he was always looking for drivers. He wasn't so particular about their background, either.

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    Another place you could check are the scrap haulers. Sometimes you just need to use a little imagination.

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    thanks all.. ...i can get all the experience in the world...but it will not erase the dui,s...and the over the road companys still will not hire me...i want to get on with may trucking out of salem, ore....they said no,,,my hopes were gone......i have 15 yrs of trucking....just did not know that it would be this hard....i quess they look at the dui,s in car or truck the same.....

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    i think it might be possible to have the 2nd dui exsponged according to arizona state law...going to check it out with a lawyer,,,not to find a good trucking lawyer in arizona

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    There are some companies around who may give you a chance. It will take more effort and time to find them. Not all carriers do a criminal background check. Most will only consider or pull a 3 year MVR. With the DUI's being 15 years old they won't show up. I am not suggesting that you lie, but sometimes it is best to only give what people ask.

    The economy has been off and there have been more drivers looking for jobs than positions available. That has made many carriers able to be more selective in whom they hire. It sounds like you tried May Trucking and when they turned you down you decided to not move forward with any other carriers.

    I am a little confused by something you stated. You said that you had "15 years in trucking." I didn't think that you ever had a CDL. If that is the case perhaps there is something else in your background that is raising a red flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronss View Post
    i had 2 back in 94..allmost in the same month....everything was taken care off in 95, and have not drank since....

    the 2 tickets were coming home from the bar




    problem...no one wants to hire me.....am i unemployable in the trucking industry, even that i have not drank in 15 yrs.



    the 2 tickets were coming home from the bar
    In AZ? or OR?

    Quote Originally Posted by ronss View Post
    thanks all.. ...i can get all the experience in the world...but it will not erase the dui,s...and the over the road companys still will not hire me...i want to get on with may trucking out of salem, ore....they said no,,,my hopes were gone......i have 15 yrs of trucking....just did not know that it would be this hard....i quess they look at the dui,s in car or truck the same.....
    15 years 50 years ago or the last 15 years? If the latter then you should have know car or truck it doesn't make a difference???

    Quote Originally Posted by ronss View Post
    i think it might be possible to have the 2nd dui exsponged according to arizona state law...going to check it out with a lawyer,,,not to find a good trucking lawyer in arizona
    So you want to drive for a company out of OR but you are referring to AZ state laws???

    Pardon me for thinking this but nothing you wrote makes much sense.
    But what do I know.
    I hear third time is the charm, so why stop at 2.

    Good luck with that and thanks for playing!

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    Default Expungement...

    Not sure how AZ does expungement but in California it goes as follows: You can not get a felony expunged. Only a misdemeanor. So in order to get a felony expunged it must be a 'wobbler'. Meaning it could have been charged as either a Felony or an Misdemeanor. You are not eligible for this if you spent anytime in state prison. Only a governor can pardon that. First step would be to have it reduced from Felony to an Misdemeanor. Once that's done it can be expunged. In California the form for both is the same.
    I'd go down to the local court house and ask about this. They might have volunteers to help. Downside to expungement is that regardless of whether or not you're successful you have to report the crimes on any application for government pposition. Computers remember forever :lol: :thumbsup:

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronss View Post
    i think it might be possible to have the 2nd dui exsponged according to arizona state law...going to check it out with a lawyer,,,not to find a good trucking lawyer in arizona

    If you can get it expunged then you should not find it too difficult to get a driving position since it has been 15 years since the conviction.

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    I realize that things vary from state to state. Here in FL, a DUI is one of the violations that can not get expunged. Good luck.
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    It's amazing how PC this message board has become.
    We use to fillet and skin felons here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadhog View Post
    It's amazing how PC this message board has become.
    We use to fillet and skin felons here.

    .... just sayin'


    I believe a DUI is a misdemeanor. Given past history I am rather surprised that some have not jumped on this. Perhaps they are out of town or becoming more laid back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMAN View Post
    I believe a DUI is a misdemeanor.
    I just learned something new. :thumbsup:

    All I really know is, if I was accused of being "legally drunk"... I guess I wouldn't see what the problem is, anyway.


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    I believe for it to be bumped up to a felony the defendant would have needed to commit another criminal act such as killing someone with his vehicle. I believe that the prosecutor is the one who ultimately decides the level of charges. If the defendant was a habitual criminal then he might (and I say "might") be able to make the charge a felony. That doesn't necessarily mean that he would get a conviction. DUI laws are treated somewhat differently in most states. The prosecution doesn't necessarily need to prove anything, especially under the implied consent laws. If the defendant refuses to take a sobriety test then he is automatically guilty. It doesn't make any difference about whether he was driving or not.

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    Contact JB Hunt.

    A couple years back they would accept 2. providing one was at least 10 years old and the second 15.
    Was told that by a former poster (and JBH recruiter....yeah, HIM for you who wonder...lol)

    Worth a shot....Good luck to ya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadhog View Post
    It's amazing how PC this message board has become.
    We use to fillet and skin felons here.

    .... just sayin'
    I think I ran all the "hardliners" OFF!! :lol:

    And as others have said.... I don't know of any state where a simple DUI is a felony. (of course there could be one.)

    Windy's comment is interesting. I don't know if all states are that way. I'm pretty sure SOME will expunge a DUI.

    Here's my advice to ronss: Find an independent school. Maybe NOT the BEST one (not a PTDI one) and go talk to them. Tell them the truth and ASK them if they know any OTR companies that they can "work" with concerning the "ancient" Dui's. (Try to get a "contact" or a reference that will back up what they tell you.)

    THEN, pay the money (or get the gov't to help you if you need it.) Don't give up hope. I know for a fact that this has worked for some people I know.

    Good luck.
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