Hazmat?

[dieselgrl]

I just got to thinking, I've had my hazmat endorsement on and off since I started driving, but have never hauled the stuff. There's a pretty good chance my load in the morning will require placards. Are you required to pull into all open scale houses to show paperwork like you would an oversize load?

[Fredog]

I just got to thinking, I've had my hazmat endorsement on and off since I started driving, but have never hauled the stuff. There's a pretty good chance my load in the morning will require placards. Are you required to pull into all open scale houses to show paperwork like you would an oversize load?

No, some scales like in Georgia have a sign that says all hazmat loads to the rear, but you only have to stop and go inside if they tell you to, otherwise, just do it like you would with a normal load.

[dieselgrl]

Cool, thanks for the reply. That takes a good deal of stress out of messing with it for me, and even more so once I get my permits and my PrePass application back in.

[headborg]

Remember that in some states.. the placarded hazmat load "trumps" the green light of the PrePass-- in other words, when hauling Hazmat- you have to act like you have NO PrePass.

Remember, to secure your placards against wind getting under them with duct tape or clear tape. And especially, remember they are checking your "blocking & bracing" be sure to have it secured. Also remember to always leave your bills & hazmat response book on the seat when you're not in the cab. And within arms reach while driving. And remember, all tickets count double points when hauling hazmat. And remember, stop for railroad crossings.

[repete]

Remember that in some states.. the placarded hazmat load "trumps" the green light of the PrePass-- in other words, when hauling Hazmat- you have to act like you have NO PrePass.

Remember, to secure your placards against wind getting under them with duct tape or clear tape. And especially, remember they are checking your "blocking & bracing" be sure to have it secured. Also remember to always leave your bills & hazmat response book on the seat when you're not in the cab. And within arms reach while driving. And remember, all tickets count double points when hauling hazmat. And remember, stop for railroad crossings.

HMMM learn something new everyday! I never knew about the pre pass or double points Thanks HB, I've been driveing now about 4 yrs and never had a haz mat load yet (and don't miss it)

[Fredog]

Remember that in some states.. the placarded hazmat load "trumps" the green light of the PrePass-- in other words, when hauling Hazmat- you have to act like you have NO PrePass.

Remember, to secure your placards against wind getting under them with duct tape or clear tape. And especially, remember they are checking your "blocking & bracing" be sure to have it secured. Also remember to always leave your bills & hazmat response book on the seat when you're not in the cab. And within arms reach while driving. And remember, all tickets count double points when hauling hazmat. And remember, stop for railroad crossings.

not true about the double points, ask me how I know. the pre pass comes with a paper that tells you which states you cant bypass in, it's only a few,but will probably increase

[Orangetxguy]

Remember that in some states.. the placarded hazmat load "trumps" the green light of the PrePass-- in other words, when hauling Hazmat- you have to act like you have NO PrePass.

Remember, to secure your placards against wind getting under them with duct tape or clear tape. And especially, remember they are checking your "blocking & bracing" be sure to have it secured. Also remember to always leave your bills & hazmat response book on the seat when you're not in the cab. And within arms reach while driving. And remember, all tickets count double points when hauling hazmat. And remember, stop for railroad crossings.

You know......I stopped at the Arkansas scales on I-30 NB, there at Hope, and the Ohio scales on I-71 NB, south of Jeffersonville, and asked the question.....do I pull into the scales with a haz-mat load every time, even with a green light??

Both scales told me to follow the instructions. If the light is green...GO...if it is RED...or NO LIGHT, enter open scales. Idaho scales, I-84 WB at Boise told me the same thing. So....for the last 3 years have been going by scales with no problem what so ever.

Louisiana told me that if the Pre-Pass gives the GREEN light and the roadside electronic signs say "Truck enter scale", to follow the Pre-Pass and GO also.

If you are not sure.....stop and ask the question. Most of the folks in the scales are very reasonable and accomodating.




"Blocking & Bracing"........dammit boy!!! That is why yesterday's load beat the holy crud out of me.........I forgot the "bracing & blocking"!!!

[Jackrabbit379]

How do the coops know if you are hauling HAZMAT?

[bentstrider]

How do the coops know if you are hauling HAZMAT?

I'm guessing if your placards are properly displayed for all to see, or if you get randomly pulled in.

Other than that, it seems very easy to slip by if you had the nerve to do so.

[Glad Hand]

Make sure while driving you always leave your paperwork and hazmat response book within arms reach especially in Georgia. I have been pulled over and inspected 3 times already in Georgia alone while hauling hazmat. Never got a ticket though.

Also, be careful when you open the doors to back up to a dock. Sometimes the fumes can be pretty noxious.

[headborg]

@ Fredog .. years ago when PrePass first came out.. I had a pamplet with listed which ones were Ok to bypass with placards.. but can't find it now..

Looking for an online resource now, but so far just the PrePass site gives this information:

Like Arkansas: not permitted to bypass with oversize/overweight ( even with a permit), and placarded hazmat or haz waste.

Arkansas

Alabama restricts: Livestock, Bulk Fuel, Agri & oversize/overweight(even with a permit)
http://www.prepass.com/services/prep...onAlabama.aspx


What you Know... they've have gotten it down to only 2 states: Arizona & Arkansas where you can't bypass(prepass) with hazmat. Plus, Ohio & West Virginia requires you to have their State issued Hazmat permit-- you can't PrePass unless you have their permit in your Permit book.


Of course, last time I checked-- bulk fuel usually required Placards so can you include a couple "special" cases there.

[Orangetxguy]

How do the coops know if you are hauling HAZMAT?

LOL.......Some LEO's actually look at the DOT information. The outfit I am with...that Mike3 & Maniac are with....that Fredog is with...and the Superior guys.....their DOT# profiles say, authorized to haul chemicals, Hazardous and Non-hazardous.


In the 2+ years that I have been with Miller, I have asked more than a few coop attendants what I need to do, regarding Pre-pass and Haz-Mat. What I posted earlier is what I have been told.

I have 30 years of paperwork handling, as regards haz-mat. Not one ticket in all those years, because I paid attention when I was in training. I know a couple guys whom failed to fill out haz-mat forms properly and were fined up the wazoo for it. One guy paid a $3,500 fine and got 3 days in jail. The judge was going to put him in for 30, but the company lawyer got him (the judge) to calm down. The company paid Mark his 3 days in jail...and fixed the printers for the BOL system!

[Jackrabbit379]

I'm guessing if your placards are properly displayed for all to see, or if you get randomly pulled in.

Other than that, it seems very easy to slip by if you had the nerve to do so.

Oh yeah. The placards. Duh!
I don't know why, but I didn't think about the placards.