Good thing i never considered JB Hunt....

[Kevin0915]

The other day, i get an email from a JB Hunt recruiter that just said "call me". I responded by just saying exactly what i was looking for. Local based in Indianapolis. He returned the message saying that "TRUCK driving is NOT LOCAL", that he had local positions but were filled from best to worst. Just for shatners and giggles, i asked what the starting rate was, how soon could i get into local, how long would i have to be with a "mentor" (again)...all that jazz. He then asks how much experience i have, my zip..etc. I tell him. He gets back with me saying he has jobs in my area (obviously he must not have read i want to get into the Indianapolis area) but take 2 yrs exp. Also says that "when and if" he has a midwest region open, it takes 6 mo exp. and then you are on for 12, home for 2. And told me the starting rate was .31cpm.

I responded with:

LOL.....31cpm? I already make .35. and i got crap for starting with swift at .26cpm. sorry, but this isnt going to be happening. I already do the 'out 2 weeks/home 2-3 days" thing.

good luck

Aparently that must have rubbed him the wrong way, cause the next email i got back from him was:

Listen Jr., Cents per mile doesn't mean anything if you don't know how
many miles you have.... I don't need luck either. Our stock has gone back
up over $10, better than any trucking company in the U.S. As for it not
working I tried to tell u THAT politely my second email. You're green and
it shows... Last bit I have for you, a real driver is worth his weight in
gold when he has safe miles ran. Not when he is wearing his feelings and
attitude on his sleeve talking on the CB about how many cents a mile he is
making compared to the pay check he brought home. Being able to not kill
a standard and having a year under your belt doesn't make you the king.
Think about an attitude change, cause the way it is I wouldn't even give
you to one of my fleet managers because knowing it all would have you
sitting at home waiting on the worst truck they feel like giving you
instead of running miles. Good Luck and may my 2 cents be worth my time to
write them.

Where did i say anything about spouting off on the CB? or think i was 'better' than him or other drivers with more experience. This recruiter is wearing his feelings on his sleeve if anybody. LOL...what a joke...and this is how JB Hunt recruits drivers? Must be like asking out a girl to the prom, and when she says 'no', he flips out, calls her names, and trashes her car in the driveway. what a baby.

Told him CPM dont mean anything unless you get the miles. why would i work harder and not smarter? why would i want to drive 2900 miles to make $700, when i can drive 2500 mi and make the same? told him to not email me again, or i was going to be calling JB Hunt HQ and show them just how this guy spent the time to 'recruit' drivers. Oh..and it was from a JB Hunt email address, so he was representing the company. his initials are S.P.

[jimjim]

Just read your post and found it interesting. I would say that the recruiter either had you and someone else mixed up, or he was just having a bad day. Either way, sounds like he got alittle testee with ya. They must of changed things around there since I was there, but when I started, I got .37, had great health insurance for the wife and me, was given a 2yr. old truck, had good miles on average,(note the word average) and a good FM that I could talk to anytime I needed.
You know as well as anybody, truck'n is truck'n, you make it what you want. No different than working construction or being a sales rep for some company, your away from home, you live out of a suitcase, you miss things with the family that the "9 to 5" guys don't. No matter how ya slice it, it's still truck'n.

I enjoyed my time with JB...but then I like it when the wife slaps me when I pinch her on the ass!

[jd112488]

not trying to be the d*** here but i agree with the recruiter. on your part kevin a simple "no thank you, not what i am looking for " would have been more than sufficient. but you showed your ass..granted he showed his in return. but you know as well as everyone else here that you had no intention on taking any job that he offered you, so you wasted his time just so you had something to talk about on this board and i assume, as did the recruiter, on the cb. grow up dude. be happy with what you do, whether that is swift or someone else. and maybe quit looking for things to get your panties all in a bunch about.

[Kevin0915]

not trying to be the d*** here but i agree with the recruiter. on your part kevin a simple "no thank you, not what i am looking for " would have been more than sufficient. but you showed your ass..granted he showed his in return. but you know as well as everyone else here that you had no intention on taking any job that he offered you, so you wasted his time just so you had something to talk about on this board and i assume, as did the recruiter, on the cb. grow up dude. be happy with what you do, whether that is swift or someone else. and maybe quit looking for things to get your panties all in a bunch about.

i wouldnt have assumed anything less from you. and once again, you jump to conclusions pretending to know what i was thinkin'. If the offer was right, yeah, i would have took the job, but notice he never did answer the question as to how long it would take to go from OTR to local like i wanted. I was feeling out my options. And the responce i gave him to set him off, wasnt ment as anything but letting him know it would be dumb to take a pay-cut just to drive for someone new.

My 2nd email had the subject "just so we dont waste anybodys time". That was when i asked about driving locally. And going thru all this just to have "something" to post on here, is just plain ignorant. Would be like some kid going up in front of his class for "show and tell" to talk about a toy he got 3 years ago for Christmas...u know...just to have something to talk about.

[Malaki86]

I had a JBHunt recruiter call me yesterday. With my 5 years of OTR, 0 tickets & 0 accidents, he offered me $0.31cpm and the chance to stay out 3-4 weeks at a time.

Was a rough deal to pass up, that's for sure.

[Mr. Ford95]

I'd have screwed with him also Kev. You asked some legit questions, got legit answers. Had you not responded like a d*** he would have kept emailing you and pestering you to come join JB and eventually you would have responded like a dick to him. Ought to go ahead and send JB what he said, no reason for him to respond with a straight out personal attack. Go ahead and hint at possibly getting a lawyer to go after the whole company for that slanderish attack.

I had a recruiter get mad a year ago when I told him I was just checking things out and wasn't looking to go OTR quite yet unless my company went completely out of business. He got all pissy with me and started to get personal so I stopped him and told him to KMA then hung up. Another recruiter there who knew I had sent in an application called to see if I had talked to anyone yet then apologized after I told them what happened and completely understood why I was no longer interested in them. No reason for that crap when your trying to get drivers to join your company.

[BigDiesel]

Another typical episode in BBR Kevin0915's life....

[jburd]

I applied with J B Hunt,when they called they said they had openings in my area,when I called the recruiter back she said the exact opposite.....maybe they get bored and just want to talk.

[Kevin0915]

I'd have screwed with him also Kev. You asked some legit questions, got legit answers. Had you not responded like a d*** he would have kept emailing you and pestering you to come join JB and eventually you would have responded like a dick to him. Ought to go ahead and send JB what he said, no reason for him to respond with a straight out personal attack. Go ahead and hint at possibly getting a lawyer to go after the whole company for that slanderish attack.

I had a recruiter get mad a year ago when I told him I was just checking things out and wasn't looking to go OTR quite yet unless my company went completely out of business. He got all pissy with me and started to get personal so I stopped him and told him to KMA then hung up. Another recruiter there who knew I had sent in an application called to see if I had talked to anyone yet then apologized after I told them what happened and completely understood why I was no longer interested in them. No reason for that crap when your trying to get drivers to join your company.

Yeah, maybe i should figure out a way to name David Letterman in the suit, and go after him for $110 million too? HAHAHA. Haven't heard from him since then. Whats funny, is that he said something about how their stock is up to $10 like that was to impress me or something, or to prove that being above $10/stock means they are the best company in the country. Oh well....just found out that Swift has shuttle drivers based out of Indianapolis. Depending on if there is room to add another driver, i'll get to stay with Swift, move to Indianapolis and buy that house. But i would have to clean out my current truck for a daycab. But from the sounds of it, i'd be home everyday. ;-)

[Malaki86]

Check at Celadon - they're based out of Indy. Not sure if they have local drivers or not - honestly can't remember.

[Fredog]

A long time ago, a women from JB called me and left a message that said they had dedicated runs out of my area, I figured what the hell? I'll call. she then went on to say that all dedicated runs are based on seniority and I would have to run otr until it was my turn, (not what the message said) I then asked her the pay .31 a mile to start, I said why does it say on your trucks, .41 a mile, she says oh that's your average including your benefits.
I managed to turn that fantastic offer down

[P A Frederick]

I had a JB recruiter call me a few times when I worked auto parts dedicated. He was a super nice guy. I told him how good my job was being dedicated (it was a pretty nice gig) and he said he couldn't possibly match that. He was nice about it and said he'd keep his eye out for something that would be good for me (I think he worked for a company that recruited for several big carriers). Never heard from him again. I can't say too much bad about JB recruiters from my experience, but I have heard some horror stories!

[Useless]

Another typical episode in BBR Kevin0915's life....

Yeah, misery loves company, and this JB recruiter and ol' Kevin found each other!!

[Kevin0915]

I had a JB recruiter call me a few times when I worked auto parts dedicated. He was a super nice guy. I told him how good my job was being dedicated (it was a pretty nice gig) and he said he couldn't possibly match that. He was nice about it and said he'd keep his eye out for something that would be good for me (I think he worked for a company that recruited for several big carriers). Never heard from him again. I can't say too much bad about JB recruiters from my experience, but I have heard some horror stories!

I'm just assuming too much, that JB Hunt's entire staff is like this. I'm hoping they aren't, and that much is probably true. Much can be said about Swift. My recruiter was nice, no BSing, didnt promice anything just to make something sound good...u know...just to 'sell' a seat at a driving school. But once i got to the school, there were a few who's recruiters fed them nothing BUT B.S., and didnt tell them things they needed to bring, etc.

guess it all depends on just how ripe the apple you choose to pick is.

[TimberWolf]

Hey Kevin here is one way to look at his response to you....

Just as you are tired of swift jokes and idiotic comments about the company you work for maybe... Just Maybe this recruitor is fed up with the same thing and you rubbed him the wrong way, he is trying to do a job just like you and does not deserve the side comments made by many, just like te ones you constantly hear about swift.... So maybe, just maybe you and this recruitor do have some thing in common...
(you both work for bad companies) Just Kidding..... a job is a job that is all that matters....

they can all promise you the world but once you are in the job and 6 months goes by and you are still otr after they promised 6 months to a local gig what can you do??? If you want local then find local dont believe any promise in this world of greed we live in, all the recruitor wants is to get you in the job after that you are not his problem. Do you think they will listen to you whine "the recruitor told me I would be local after 6 months".... They will simply tell you "oh well" and you are stuck otr....

The best time to find a job is when you have one, so stick it out and wait for what you want....


Timberwolf

[Joey Shabadoo]

And told me the starting rate was .31cpm.

Good Grief, Charlie Brown!!
.31 cpm!?!?!
Back in 99', ole John Boy was starting guys out at .37 cpm.
If you had experience, you were up over .40 cpm.
Hire-on there today and you'd be making .06-.09 cpm LESS than you were 11 YEARS AGO!
And back in them days, the LOH (Length of Haul) was alot higher as this was before JB got heavy into the intermodal stuff.
Now all those water-to-water runs of yore ride on the steel wheels.
As a company hand, you run what's left over after the teams and lease-ops get their pick: all the short-haul junk with live loads on one or both ends.
Getting your doors blown off by Swift as you hobble down the road in your 63 mph stripped-down Century
You empty out.
Wait around hours for the Qualcomm to BEEP...hopefully there's a truckstop nearby so you can maybe live somewhat like a human being.
6 unpaid hours later, get a 250-mile overnight shag run.
Drive when you want to sleep.
Sleep when you want to drive.

And you guys wonder why these low-life outfits are always hiring?
Anyone with brains runs far away from this industry.
Nothing but a dead-end.

[freebirdrfd]

Good Grief, Charlie Brown!!
.31 cpm!?!?!
Back in 99', ole John Boy was starting guys out at .37 cpm.
If you had experience, you were up over .40 cpm.
Hire-on there today and you'd be making .06-.09 cpm LESS than you were 11 YEARS AGO!
And back in them days, the LOH (Length of Haul) was alot higher as this was before JB got heavy into the intermodal stuff.
Now all those water-to-water runs of yore ride on the steel wheels.
As a company hand, you run what's left over after the teams and lease-ops get their pick: all the short-haul junk with live loads on one or both ends.
Getting your doors blown off by Swift as you hobble down the road in your 63 mph stripped-down Century
You empty out.
Wait around hours for the Qualcomm to BEEP...hopefully there's a truckstop nearby so you can maybe live somewhat like a human being.
6 unpaid hours later, get a 250-mile overnight shag run.
Drive when you want to sleep.
Sleep when you want to drive.

And you guys wonder why these low-life outfits are always hiring?
Anyone with brains runs far away from this industry.
Nothing but a dead-end.

You tell'em joey,,, you know the old saying "there's a ass for every seat".. nobody ever said that the ass had to be smart........ there are alot of desperate/stupid people in the trucking industry.

[Joey Shabadoo]

You tell'em joey,,, you know the old saying "there's a ass for every seat".. nobody ever said that the ass had to be smart........ there are alot of desperate/stupid people in the trucking industry.

Amen, brother!

[geeshock]

I had a JB recruiter call me a few times when I worked auto parts dedicated. He was a super nice guy. I told him how good my job was being dedicated (it was a pretty nice gig) and he said he couldn't possibly match that. He was nice about it and said he'd keep his eye out for something that would be good for me (I think he worked for a company that recruited for several big carriers). Never heard from him again. I can't say too much bad about JB recruiters from my experience, but I have heard some horror stories!

I had the same experience when I worked for risinger bros. JB Hunt called me and said they could get me on the exact same International paper run I was already doing. When I told him I was driving 3k+ miles per week on average and making 37cpm he told me he could not touch that.

My friend actualy worked for JB and he had a totally different experience than me. He told me that 41 cpm is next to imposable to get with JB and thier logbooks are crazy. Some of the rulles they have make it near imposable to make a profit. you'll be lucky if you see 2500 miles, witch they consider good miles. I had the opertunity to talk to many ppl from jb and the average miles they seem to have run is closer to 1800 miles. Again, if they offered I'd probably accept simply becuse my options are limited but they are not at the top of my list.

[GMAN]

J. B. Hunt used to be among the highest paying carriers. I have heard of other carriers who have done the same thing. I guess it is better to take a pay cut than lose your job.