Texas....no more idling

[GMAN]

Well, maybe some people either can't afford to pay the ticket or choose not to break the law, no matter how stupid it is.

I only hope that any family he left behind starts suing anyone and everything - from the carrier to the federal government (OSHA) to the state to the city.

And, ya, a fan blowing 110f air around inside of a truck really helps... He may as well as had the heater running.

I don't see how it would be the fault of his carrier unless they told him not to idle. I agree that his family should file suite against the state and local governments who enacted this law. The should sue each legislator who voted for this law, personally.

[zipy46]

I talked to the head of my company..

If its over 100 degrees you can legally idle in Ca

Its the CVMA (?) that has these idle patrols that roam about Ca.

I dont think the regular cops are too concerned about idling rigs...they got

the LA gangs to keep them occupied.

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I am idling in Louisiana tonight because its humid as heck....i did not have to idle any of the last 2 nights crossing the desert sands.....the temp drop pretty quick at night out there

[Malaki86]

I don't see how it would be the fault of his carrier unless they told him not to idle. I agree that his family should file suite against the state and local governments who enacted this law. The should sue each legislator who voted for this law, personally.

If the company sent a driver into an area where they knew in advance that there was no idling permitted (when it was plainly needed), and the company didn't provide to pay for IdleAire (if it was available), a motel (if there was one nearby with truck parking) or an APU to provide the cooling that was needed, then how are they NOT at least partially responsible? The company plainly did not provide the employee with a safe working environment.

OSHA needs to get into enforcing regulations regarding the temperature inside of a trucks cab. I know when I worked at a factory in Virginia years ago, in the summer, OSHA would regularly come in and do temperature readings. If the temperature exceeded 105 (if I remember correctly), the factory had to shut down that section of the plant. There was a number of times when they shut down the entire plant.

105 is nothing compared to the temps inside of a truck that's parked in direct sunlight, in a crowded parking lot, and with the outside temp already exceeding 100.

[GMAN]

Perhaps OSHA should get involved. In order for the company to provide a safe working environment they would need to violate the law by encouraging the driver to idle. It is the state that prohibits the company from having a safe working environment.

[GMAN]

I talked to the head of my company..

If its over 100 degrees you can legally idle in Ca

Its the CVMA (?) that has these idle patrols that roam about Ca.

I dont think the regular cops are too concerned about idling rigs...they got

the LA gangs to keep them occupied.

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I am idling in Louisiana tonight because its humid as heck....i did not have to idle any of the last 2 nights crossing the desert sands.....the temp drop pretty quick at night out there

Drivers should not have to wait until temps get to 100 before they can idle.

[zipy46]

OSHA Public Website Contact Information Page

OSHA may listen ....but I doubt it

[Copperhead]

I do not have anything to do with Texas, but I was listening to a number of programs on XM recently and people on them were saying that the anti-idle is NOT state wide in Texas. It only affects primarily the I35 corridor and a few other places. Before everyone gets there collective shorts in a wad, maybe they may want to look into this deeper. Even if one does not have an APU, like the supposed driver from Heartland who died in the truck due to the heat, they do make hotels to sleep in. Better than sleeping in a truck anyway.

[GMAN]

Not all motels have truck parking. The price of a motel room is not cheap and most drivers or carriers are not going to spend the money for a room when they can idle and stay comfortable. Even if they did it could cause problems in time and availability of rooms. With most drivers schedules it would be difficult for most of them to look for a room with available parking and a decent price. I have traveled otr with a day cab and had to either sleep across the seats or pay for a motel. It can be a challenge just to find a motel with parking for trucks. It isn't practical for drivers to all stay in motels. Besides, I don't think that there are enough rooms to accommodate all the drivers.

[zipy46]

I'm in Lufkin right now...

and yes....

I am idling

[mike3fan]

I'm in Lufkin right now...

and yes....

I am idling

WELL, aren't you the rebel.

[GMAN]

I'm in Lufkin right now...

and yes....

I am idling

That is the way you outlaw trucks are......Just throw it in their face. 'IDLE OR BUST."

[Orangetxguy]

I'm in Lufkin right now...

and yes....

I am idling

Good deal. I camped at the Petro in San Antonio last night....and I idled. All night long.

Thursday morning I camped at the Flying J in Eherenbetrg AZ....from 5am till I left at 3pm........idled the whole time. The wind was blowing towards California the entire time!!

[GMAN]

Good deal. I camped at the Petro in San Antonio last night....and I idled. All night long.

Thursday morning I camped at the Flying J in Eherenbetrg AZ....from 5am till I left at 3pm........idled the whole time. The wind was blowing towards California the entire time!!

I can just see it now. They print up "WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE" posters and call out the FBI. You are on the Homeland Insecurity's terrorist list.

[geeshock]

We need to all ban together and let our voices be heard by DOT and the politicians but that will never happen. Unfortunately it will take deadly crashes piling up before these idiot politicians realize they goofed on this type of law.

That would only get them together and do more HOS changes. After all it's those truckdrivers spending to much time driving if they arent rested up isn't it. mabe they need 15 hours of sleep instead of just 10, lol

[Windwalker]

that just proves how stupid some people can be

You're absolutely right. The "SUPER STUPIDITY" of some people. You have a "READY MADE, MADE-TO-ORDER" martyr, and what are you going to do? Let him die in vane. For nothing. You're absolutely right.

Of course, if you made him a "POSTER-BOY" and accuse the state of passing LETHAL LEGISLATION...