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  1. 02-10-2009 09:29 PM #1
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    I got out of driving school in august of 08 ,I heard of a sort of local job driving a chip truck.When I talked with the owner,Iasked him to put me with one of driversbut he said no need just follow us.Now I made sure I told him I was a rookie but anyway I had a co driver from the school we attended. We drove a couple days and told the owner the brakes were bad and then again when we came in at the end of the week.When we left the next week we checked the brakes they worked ok until we were loaded, well to make it short ,I started down an on ramp the brakes failed I had to turn or run into a big ditch.Well you guess the result a roll over,my question is with such a small company would this be on my DAC report . I am not sure what to include on applactions now can any one help.
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    The small company probably would not put it there, however...
    With a roll-over in any vehicle, the police will be there. That means a police report. Anything that can be considered a matter of public record may appear on the DAC.

    Case in point... Nothing to do at all with driving, and more than 10 years old. Someone that knew about drug dealing and cultivating pot got one year of probation back in '92. Started driving in '98, and in '05, accessory was listed on the DAC.

    Rolling any vehicle over will mean a police report. No idea of just how long it may take for DAC to pick it up, but it will, very likely, appear at some point in the future.

    There are some companies that do not use DAC, and you might try to run across one that does not.
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    You should get a copy of your DAC/USIS file then you'll know if it's there ,and if not don't mention it or working for that company.
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    Bassman your not from VA are you?? and if the logging/chip haulers are like anything around here most of the owners probably don't even know what a DAC is!!
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    It really doesn't matter if it is on a DAC report or not. Any company can potentially find out about through your MVR or when they contact your former employer to verify your employment and safety record.
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    I'm surprised nobody asked about how the accident was written up.

    Were you cited for the accident? If so, what were you cited for? Were you terminated? If so, what was the cause?

    There's a big difference between a non-preventable accident due to equipment failure and a preventable loss of control rollover.
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    The big application killer would be not listing it at all. A dispute between preventable and non preventable is not a huge issue.
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    You're probably right that its not on your DAC but find out first. Same with the MVR. There has to be something listed on there. Your chances of getting a driving job in this economy with no experience aren't very good. No experience and a rollover? Forget about driving. So...would I cover up the rollover? Well...it might mean getting fired if they find out later...but if they know about it they aint gonna hire you in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    I got out of driving school in august of 08 ,I heard of a sort of local job driving a chip truck.When I talked with the owner,Iasked him to put me with one of driversbut he said no need just follow us.Now I made sure I told him I was a rookie but anyway I had a co driver from the school we attended. We drove a couple days and told the owner the brakes were bad and then again when we came in at the end of the week.When we left the next week we checked the brakes they worked ok until we were loaded, well to make it short ,I started down an on ramp the brakes failed I had to turn or run into a big ditch.Well you guess the result a roll over,my question is with such a small company would this be on my DAC report . I am not sure what to include on applactions now can any one help.
    If the brakes were bad one week and then you came back to work and they were fine, does that mean someone fixed it, cause it couldn't have fixed itself? Did you ask to see if the truck's brakes were checked by a mechanic to ensure it was roadworthy before you started your workday?
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  10. 02-11-2009 11:48 AM #10
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    No i was not citied ,but the report was given to the owner,I have never had the chance to read it.Ialso was not fired he keeps saying he does not have another truck,waiting for an engine rebuild but it does not take that long. As far as the brakes being checked by a tech,no they weren't but we didn't have contact with him at that time of night on sunday so we didn't know,rookie mistake I know. Thanks for your advice though
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    how long does it take to do a rebuild newbie? tell your boss that it does not take as long as it is..i am sure he will put a ruch on it so his new driver can wreck it again.

    maybe i am being too harsh here lately. let me ask another question. how much did your truck weigh at the time of the roll over? i am asking because maybe, just maybe that being fresh out of school you were not used to pulling any weight. maybe at best a trailer 1/4 full of old tires? could it be that you did not know how the brakes and truck would react with alot of weight on them. i assume that hauling chips is heavy...it looks like it when they are getting on the interstate.

    here we go again. i am not saying the brakes were not out of adjustment but you said they were finr untill you got loaded. I THINK that maybe you were not ready to be pulling that amount of weight. I THINK that you were going to fast to show the more seasoned drivers that you could run with them. I THINK that you are looking to blame the mechanic or company for your mistake. I hope i am wrong. but hey, today almost everyone is looking for a handout or free ride. why not sue the pants off that company for putting you in shotty equipment...that just might work.
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    Well J D since you have all the answers you tell me how longand yes the weight was to heavy.This guy runs all his drivers miles out of the way to stay away from the scales,most loads run around 100,000. As far as wrecking his truck I SURE AS HECK DO IT ON PURPOSE AND HIS OTHER DRIVERS WERENO WHERE AROUND.I thuoght I might get some good advice not a bunch of smart remarkes. Thanks but no thanks J D
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    Ummmm...Mr Bassman...did that school teach you how to look at the brakes to see what their condition was? Did they teach you how to test your brakes, loaded or not? Did the school teach you to check the conditions of the drums on each wheel position? The slack adjusters? Any of the little things that you are required to check each day??

    Just wondering.

    Finally....did you tell the police officers and DOT man whom investigated your accident, that you had written up the brakes on that truck the week before??

    Did you have a Vehicle Inspection Report even filled out and turned in on the truck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    Well J D since you have all the answers you tell me how longand yes the weight was to heavy.This guy runs all his drivers miles out of the way to stay away from the scales,most loads run around 100,000. As far as wrecking his truck I SURE AS HECK DO IT ON PURPOSE AND HIS OTHER DRIVERS WERENO WHERE AROUND.I thuoght I might get some good advice not a bunch of smart remarkes. Thanks but no thanks J D
    What did you expect from a guy with an avatar of Angus Young dressed in drag ?...But if you get a copy of your DAC/USIS it will show your MVR in addition to employer entered incidents ,So If not on the DAC/USIS then don't offer it up on applications , Sometimes honesty is not the best policy .
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    thanks big jeep
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    Looks to me, like you need to "investigate yourself. You need to see what is or is not on any record about your driving. That includes your MVR as well as your DAC. Make sure about what can and can not be tracked before you fill out any application. If you omit something on your application, and the company finds out through another source, it's called lying on an application, and is grounds for immediate termination. No joke.
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    it is funny sometime that i am the ass for telling the truth and that hurts some people. if you wrote up the brakes, then in return the mechanic that fixed them should have signed off that he fixed them. and in return you should have received that he fixed them in writing. did any of these things happen? i find it odd that they did not work for a week, you wrote them up...you THINK that they fixed them but did not verify it. you were driving too fast, too heavy, and dodging scales. sounds shady to me. if that is what you want to do then do not blame the company for it. sorry, but sometimes the truth hurts.

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    go fill out some applications. dont even put that you ever worked there. youll find something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangetxguy View Post
    Did that school teach you how to look at the brakes to see what their condition was? Did they teach you how to test your brakes, loaded or not? Did the school teach you to check the conditions of the drums on each wheel position? The slack adjusters? Any of the little things that you are required to check each day??

    The School I went to Did not Really teach us too much about all that....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jd112488 View Post
    and for big jeep, you can try to get me fired up if you like. but that is actually joan jett, the queen..or goddess of rock and roll.
    I must be getting old.... You'd have to pay me to get close to that. Must be running out of choices for "queen" anymore. Did Madonna grow up yet???
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