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    I have ran into (no pun) a few shippers/cosignees in the past few weeks where blindside backing was not an option, you HAD to do it.

    I saw somewhere on YouTube, that one driver came up with the idea of putting a mirror on the passenger side sun-visor that was a 12-18in wide and 4-6in tall. Not sure how much more visibility you'd get, but i just bought a $5 mirror that i will have to trim down, and attack via velcro or elastic.

    anybody have any thoughts about blindside backing? any tips, etc.?

    One place i was at, I had already bumped the dock, and another swift driver blind sided right next to me. He was a mentor, and he looked like he knew what he was doing. He'd back up 2-3 feet...then GOAL. back another 2-3 feet and GOAL. took forever, but he got it in without hitting anything. without this mirror idea, that is how i would go about it....thought maybe there was a better idea out there somewhere......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin0915 View Post

    I saw somewhere on YouTube, that one driver came up with the idea of putting a mirror on the passenger side sun-visor that was a 12-18in wide and 4-6in tall. Not sure how much more visibility you'd get, but i just bought a $5 mirror that i will have to trim down, and attack via velcro or elastic.
    A mirror inside your truck isn't going to really help. Beyond GOAL, if you have power mirrors, you can simply adjust your mirror as you back up. But that doesn't replace GOAL.

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    one place in lovely winnipeg, i had to blind-side into a crappy old skool dock that wasn't exactly built for 53ft long trailers. i used GOAL countless times even though it took me 45mins to get bump the dock. it was a mission accomplished. didn't hit anything other than the rubber thingies. i got out and looked every 2-4 seconds of movement. nothing can beat and replace GOAL.

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    As stated above, NOTHING replaces GOAL.

    As far as mirrors go, I find that I get a whole lot more use out of my convex mirror than I do the flat one...but stuff is really, really small, so it's extremely important to get out every couple of feet.

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    Ahh another reason i love driving a daycab with back window and a flatbed. You can see everything. If i was blindsidin' a big van with a sleeper i would definalty ask for a spotter from the forklift driver. Espicailly if it was a tight dock with lots of crap around

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    Quote Originally Posted by INKTOXICATED View Post
    Ahh another reason i love driving a daycab with back window and a flatbed. You can see everything. If i was blindsidin' a big van with a sleeper i would definalty ask for a spotter from the forklift driver. Espicailly if it was a tight dock with lots of crap around
    Spotter's a great idea, but at the end of the day if he backs you right into something...it's still your fault!

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    Quote Originally Posted by INKTOXICATED View Post
    Ahh another reason i love driving a daycab with back window and a flatbed. You can see everything. If i was blindsidin' a big van with a sleeper i would definalty ask for a spotter from the forklift driver. Espicailly if it was a tight dock with lots of crap around
    Spoter, yeh, that's ok But remember not to take his/her word 100%. If you hit something you might get a pat on the back and some heartfelt simpathy but you are still resposable. Roll down right side mirror, look out, if you can't see the back of the truck or just uncomfortable with the window, GOAL, I use both. Remember, use everything at your disposal, even if you have to take 40+ min to back and have a long line of drivers blowing the horn as long as you haven't hit something you weren't ment to hit you did your job.

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    Make a few trips to LA and you will surprise yourself at fast you learn how to back a trailer.

    About all the docks in LA are a challenge and some are a nightmare.

    The place I load at in the morning has 1 dock and you back in off the street. When you bump the dock your tractor is still in the street. They give you a orange cone to put in front of your truck.

    Blindside backing is not that hard. Before you move the truck look at the surroundings and picture the back in your head. Like Rev said use your power mirror on the passenger side. Go slow and remember what you pictured in your head. If any doubt GOAL.

    I am a self taught O/O who drove a flatbed for 4 weeks with a guy who bought a truck while we were still in trucking school. He was scared to hit the road by himself so I went with him and we scared eachother. LOL

    I bought a truck and took off to LA. I go to LA everyweek and haven't had too many problems in the 6 months I have been doing it. I very seldom even turn on the GPS. I only go to about 6 different places and know my way to them now. I bet I could fill out my logbook for next week and be within 2 hours of every stop I make.

    This week I seen different scenery because I was a chicken after I looked at the weather forecast for FLAG and I took the southern route across I-10. 200 miles further but no snow. I seen on the weather report Flagstaff got almost 2 feet of snow in the last 24 hours. Home the southern way tomorrow.

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    I once had a safety director that said "THERE IS NEVER ANY REASON A DRIVER SHOULD BLIND-SIDE INTO ANYWHERE". Of course, it had been a number of years since he had been out in the real world.

    The electric mirrors that rotate do not go far enough to serve you well enough to use them instead of GOAL. I had never heard of a mirror in the passenger's side visor. It might actually be very helpful. Something I might want to try myself. If properly mounted, I can imagine it would be very helpful when the trailer swings beyond the view of the outside mirror.

    Something else that I have done, when I have another experienced driver that I know and trust, is to give him a hand-held radio and listen to his instructions over the CB. Using this, I've backed a 13' wide load into a 14' opening for a door, without having the tarp on the load touch the sides. Unfortunately, this is usable on rare ocassions only.

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    I have a couple of stores i have to blind side back into.. one store i have to 90 DEGREE BLINDSIDE back into!!

    But together with Goal i also use my Bottom Side View Mirror but when i feel like i'm getting close to something i'll get out and look... and i will say the first time i went to that 90 degree blindside back it took me well of 30 mins to dock that trailer!!!

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    I could not imagine anyone giving tips on how to back-in somewhere, on the blind side. That's something that you will have to figure out. I know some guys can't back up a trailer to save their life. Others, are a natural. Other than GOAL, just know your surroundings, and keep an eye in your mirrors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windwalker View Post
    I once had a safety director that said "THERE IS NEVER ANY REASON A DRIVER SHOULD BLIND-SIDE INTO ANYWHERE". Of course, it had been a number of years since he had been out in the real world.

    The electric mirrors that rotate do not go far enough to serve you well enough to use them instead of GOAL. I had never heard of a mirror in the passenger's side visor. It might actually be very helpful. Something I might want to try myself. If properly mounted, I can imagine it would be very helpful when the trailer swings beyond the view of the outside mirror.

    Something else that I have done, when I have another experienced driver that I know and trust, is to give him a hand-held radio and listen to his instructions over the CB. Using this, I've backed a 13' wide load into a 14' opening for a door, without having the tarp on the load touch the sides. Unfortunately, this is usable on rare ocassions only.

    Back up a couple of feet, get out and look, back up a couple of more feet, get out and look...


    Yeah, that no reason to ever blindside back sounds real good on paper,in a car or from behind a desk...that just isnt always true out in the real world like you said. I agree with all the others, best plan of action is to just stop,get out and look as many times as you need to. Dont feel bad if you have to be in someones way for a few minutes once you get started

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    We go by, Smith System safety. I think, it's a SYSCO thing. Anyhow, they tell us that we should avoid backing as possible. Or something..

    What gets me, with all the restraunts, etc we deliver to, how ya get to the kitchen without backing in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379 View Post
    We go by, Smith System safety. I think, it's a SYSCO thing. Anyhow, they tell us that we should avoid backing as possible. Or something..

    What gets me, with all the restraunts, etc we deliver to, how ya get to the kitchen without backing in.
    I've been asking that question for six years now. Still waiting for safety to give me an answer:lol:.
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    Yup....Nothing beats GOAL.......Personally,I avoid blindsides whenever possible.......I've never hit anything,but in the last 3-4 months,I've been bumped 4 times.....Oddly enough,the first 3 times were all Crete trucks...No damage...The last one rocked me out of my bunk,when the dimwit took out my front left fender......

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    one of my friend tried blind-siding at the t/a east in ontario, california and managed to wreck some england driver's lease-purchase truck. when he told me what he was attempting to do, i asked him, "dude, what in the F--K where you blind-siding for?" he was attempting to show off and made a massive fool of himself. as for myself, i will not do that at a freaking truck stop. yes, i'm aware that the petro in wheeler ridge has spots that are set up like that, and the one in sparks. i will not attempt it. forget it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windwalker View Post
    I had never heard of a mirror in the passenger's side visor. It might actually be very helpful. Something I might want to try myself. If properly mounted, I can imagine it would be very helpful when the trailer swings beyond the view of the outside mirror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creek Jackson View Post
    Accueil Blindside Helper

    Ask and you shall receive (ocassionally) :lol:
    Wow. What a product. Not only did the driver in the video on their website never GOAL, but they actually use testimonials from people saying that they no longer have to GOAL. Relying on a mirror strapped to the visor is a great way to hit something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creek Jackson View Post
    Accueil Blindside Helper

    Ask and you shall receive (ocassionally) :lol:
    that video just made me laugh.

    rev, he got out and looked at the beginning of the video. that's gotta count for something! :block:

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