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    It would be nice for the OP to come back and explain what he means by "dismissed felony case."

    Assuming he was charged with a felony, went to court, and the charges were dismissed then they only way anyone would really know about it is if he told them. It is also possible that if he was convicted but the charges were later dropped after successful completion of his sentence that the only way that anyone would know if he volunteered the information, though that may depend a lot on the state laws where a conviction took place.

    Anyone who has been around this or other boards long enough have seen people come and go who complain they can't get a job because they do not comprehend the difference between "charged" and "convicted" and volunteer information that they don't need to.
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    We need to ratchet it down a bit, people. We don't want this to escalate into a name calling or shouting match. I think we can make our point without getting too emotional.

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    BD is, as usual, a punk, a bully, and factually incorrect.

    A felony can be dismissed with, or without prejudice, the difference being whether the court will allow the prosecutor to re-file the charge(s). A felony can also carry a misdemeanor sentence, and a court may, after the subject has completed the terms of the sentence, allow the defendent to change their plea to not guilty and dismiss the charges.

    I encourage the OP to keep looking. He will have to answer yes to any questions regarding whether he has ever been arrested.

    Having had felony charges dismissed against me has not prevented me from finding employment as a truck driver, or from obtaining a real estate sales license. I have always answered any pertinent questions truthfully and in detail, and included copies of the court documents.

    From a legal standpoint (at least in regards to hiring practices) a dismissal is equal to a finding of innocence.

    It was interesting to me to find out that if I were to go to law school and then apply to the Bar, I would not have to even disclose anything related to any charges which were dismissed. I guess you could make the argument that it's easier to become a lawyer than a truck driver. If I had known that 20 years ago, I would probably be a lawyer today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LightsChromeHorsepower View Post
    I guess you could make the argument that it's easier to become a lawyer than a truck driver.
    They have 2 week Bar Exam Mills?

    It would be easier for someone who gets in trouble with the law, but manages to get charges dropped to become a lawyer than a truck driver. But the multiple years of schooling kinda throw that whole argument out the window.

    If I had known that 20 years ago, I would probably be a lawyer today.
    I'm not even gonna touch that one....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDiesel View Post
    No such thing as a " dismissed felony case "........:roll2:
    Really?... what do you think a grand jury does. A person is "charged" with a felony and the case is brought before a grand jury to decide whether their is enough evidence to proceed with a trail or to dismiss the case. cases are often dismissed or dropped to a lower charge.
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    Amazing how many " fine upstanding " dwellers at this site claim to know so much about felonies....... I wonder why ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomB985 View Post
    Spoke with a Schnieder recruiter before I went to Con-way. The rates I was offered were .30 per mile for a dedicated run, or .39 for OTR.

    The rates are different for OTR and dedicated!
    Do me a favor... RUN FROM SCHNEIDER!! They probably have the worst equipment on the road hands down!! The trailers are trash on the system and dedicated accounts.. Most of the trucks have problems out the rear!! Think this.. every so called coolie has new trucks, Swifty, Crete, Werner, J.B. Hunt... SCHNEIDER STILL HAS THERE PLAIN OLD CENTURY CLASSES!! NO PROSTARS, NO CASCIDAS... This Company is the cheapest out of them all.. I'm Just stuck cause the job market is down the drain... and for all the geniuses especially Big Jeep.. What Coolie pays a damn good wage coming out of school??? Maybe a Skate board company like TMC or Maverick, but no Schneider, No Werner, or Swift pays a good wage until they see you can put up a year or 2 with there B.S... I'm not starting a Local, OTR debate but for real your first year in trucking is going to suck, take it or F%$@ing leave it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDiesel View Post
    Amazing how many " fine upstanding " dwellers at this site claim to know so much about felonies....... I wonder why ????
    I can't speak for everyone but myself it's a background in law enforcement. It's amazing how some people resort to distraction and name calling like a child when they are mistaken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkjr View Post
    Do me a favor... RUN FROM SCHNEIDER!! They probably have the worst equipment on the road hands down!! The trailers are trash on the system and dedicated accounts.. Most of the trucks have problems out the rear!! Think this.. every so called coolie has new trucks, Swifty, Crete, Werner, J.B. Hunt... SCHNEIDER STILL HAS THERE PLAIN OLD CENTURY CLASSES!! NO PROSTARS, NO CASCIDAS... This Company is the cheapest out of them all.. I'm Just stuck cause the job market is down the drain... and for all the geniuses especially Big Jeep.. What Coolie pays a damn good wage coming out of school??? Maybe a Skate board company like TMC or Maverick, but no Schneider, No Werner, or Swift pays a good wage until they see you can put up a year or 2 with there B.S... I'm not starting a Local, OTR debate but for real your first year in trucking is going to suck, take it or F%$@ing leave it..

    Werner pays .26cpm starting...it takes 2 years too reach .30 cpm, and 10 yrs to reach .35 cpm ...Now the average pay at 1yr is .35 cpm ...Now like I said Werner is no place to go if you have options ,because the pay is well below average even at 2-10 yrs .

    You lose credibility when you rate a company low just b/c they run freightliner century ,as the brand of truck a company runs says little about driver earnings .


    But I guess you got plenty of trucking experience via DELL ...And someday my even get a CDL...Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG JEEP on 44's View Post
    Werner pays .26cpm starting...it takes 2 years too reach .30 cpm, and 10 yrs to reach .35 cpm ...Now the average pay at 1yr is .35 cpm ...Now like I said Werner is no place to go if you have options ,because the pay is well below average even at 2-10 yrs .

    You lose credibility when you rate a company low just b/c they run freightliner century ,as the brand of truck a company runs says little about driver earnings .


    But I guess you got plenty of trucking experience via DELL ...And someday my even get a CDL...Lol
    didn't say anything about the truck having to do with the driver's earnings.. Also if you wasn't trying so hard to be such a wise ass one of main arguments was equipment!! Schneider has some of the worst trailers, System and Dedicated!! Hell There Bulk Tankers even has Dents the size of Texas!!! but hell your know it all big jeep.. yeah i guess you got all the answer tho right??
    But answer me this mr. Jeep, where can this young man go to make an nice smooth 40 to 45 k his first year?? Please, tell me so i can go apply for it too....

    And let me ask you this, if both companies had the same pay packages, same amount of miles and the same benfits.. but one company has far superior better equipment which one are u going to choose?? let me guess the one with the less well maintain equipment??

    P.S. No my Trucking Experience comes from VIA Pops, Three Uncles, and Three Cousins who has a combined experience over 100 years (Pops 30 years, Uncle 1 25 years, Uncle 2 19 years, Uncle 3 13 years, the Cousins make up the rest)... sorry i'm not Double L... I actually drive a truck and been driving (illegally for some) a riding for a while now..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkjr View Post
    didn't say anything about the truck having to do with the driver's earnings.. Also if you wasn't trying so hard to be such a wise ass one of main arguments was equipment!! Schneider has some of the worst trailers, System and Dedicated!! Hell There Bulk Tankers even has Dents the size of Texas!!! but hell your know it all big jeep.. yeah i guess you got all the answer tho right??
    But answer me this mr. Jeep, where can this young man go to make an nice smooth 40 to 45 k his first year?? Please, tell me so i can go apply for it too....

    And let me ask you this, if both companies had the same pay packages, same amount of miles and the same benfits.. but one company has far superior better equipment which one are u going to choose?? let me guess the one with the less well maintain equipment??

    P.S. No my Trucking Experience comes from VIA Pops, Three Uncles, and Three Cousins who has a combined experience over 100 years (Pops 30 years, Uncle 1 25 years, Uncle 2 19 years, Uncle 3 13 years, the Cousins make up the rest)... sorry i'm not Double L... I actually drive a truck and been driving (illegally for some) a riding for a while now..


    And yet still I do not recall advocating Schneider ,as a quality career choice . As far as making 40-45k 1st year I can say not at Werner for sure ,and probably not SNI ...Maybe Crete as they have one of the better 1st year pay scales ,but you need miles ,and that can vary driver 2 driver at these companies ...Also your 1st year earnings will be limited if you come to the table with a criminal past/bad MVR leaving you only choices like SNI,CRST,and Werner ...

    Your Uncles cousins brothers sisters fathers alternative life parter with 30 yrs experience does not qualify you as knowldgeable ,and having decades of driving does not automatically make them any good ,as it's possible to do something for decades and still blow at it...And sometimes it becomes a family tradition .


    And your "ILLEGAL" driving I hope a lame attempt at proving experience where there is none ...But why drive illegal ...Why not obtain a legal CDL somehow with all the life long career drivers in your family ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG JEEP on 44's View Post
    And yet still I do not recall advocating Schneider ,as a quality career choice . As far as making 40-45k 1st year I can say not at Werner for sure ,and probably not SNI ...Maybe Crete as they have one of the better 1st year pay scales ,but you need miles ,and that can vary driver 2 driver at these companies ...Also your 1st year earnings will be limited if you come to the table with a criminal past/bad MVR leaving you only choices like SNI,CRST,and Werner ...

    Your Uncles cousins brothers sisters fathers alternative life parter with 30 yrs experience does not qualify you as knowldgeable ,and having decades of driving does not automatically make them any good ,as it's possible to do something for decades and still blow at it...And sometimes it becomes a family tradition .


    And your "ILLEGAL" driving I hope a lame attempt at proving experience where there is none ...But why drive illegal ...Why not obtain a legal CDL somehow with all the life long career drivers in your family ?
    lol lame attempt.... yeah some how us good ol' country boys down here in VA some how get away with that from time to time... but now i have a CDL pure Legal so i will not answer your last question...

    But how in the hell will you drive for so many years and suck?? lol if someone works at a factory and tears @$%! up and they are still working there after 10 and 15 years i'm pretty sure that factory is not profitable! What driver has been driving for 15+ , Wreck S^%@, Tore Up Equipment and still has a job?? that logic doesn't make any sense...

    and yeah Crete, i've heard decent things about there first year program.... i'll leave it at that...

    the knowledgeable question.. i'm going to leave that alone, thats pure ignorance on your behalf...

    By the way are your shifting empties at a Beer Plant?? there's alot of experience coming out of that.. YOU GO BOY!!!
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