No more log books ?

[2hellandback]

I'm leased on to a company that works the oil fields, 99% of the time I'm within 100 miles of the office.

Its there policy to log but legally i don't need to log and starting Nov 1st i will stop my log books and dicontinue logging. I realize the company i work for may let me go , what if any legal recourse will i have if they do?

[dobry4u]

I'm leased on to a company that works the oil fields, 99% of the time I'm within 100 miles of the office.

Its there policy to log but legally i don't need to log and starting Nov 1st i will stop my log books and dicontinue logging. I realize the company i work for may let me go , what if any legal recourse will i have if they do?

Legally you have no recourse if they terminate you because it is their (company) policy and the policy is reasonable and you chose to be insubordinate .

[Uturn2001]

Legal recourse: None. There is nothing in the regs that says you must use a time sheet if you stay within 100 miles. It is only an option, and the option is reserved for the owner of the company to decide to use it or not.

[Mackman]

When i drove tankers i had to log. But we stayed within 100miles also. But i think you have to log by law if you work more then 12hr a day.

[Snowman7]

I hope your kidding. Why lose a job over a logbook? If it's company policy then you have no case. Period. And Mackman is right, if you work more than 12 hours you're required to log anyway. Even when you're a local driver the company is required to keep track of your hours. Do you punch a time clock? If they want you to keep a logbook there's nothing you can do about it.

[Flashmann]

I drove a cement truck for a year...Out of Carbondale,Colorado.....We stayed within 100 miles,yet were required to keep logs by company policy......We had sundays off so fell under the 60 hours in 7 days rule,but were told to log under the 70/8 day.....Often as not,they'd keep us out past 14 hours...Even though we never came near to driving 11 hours,they had us driving after 14,and frequently would want us back 7-8 hours after logging off duty....Of course,they'd ask us,on the sly,off the record to "adjust" our logs.....I never did.....I logged as I ran.....I figured if I ever got caught redhanded I'd be in some trouble,but so would they......Plus I figured if they got audited after the fact,it'd be on them and not me.

I never could understand why they'd want to keep what amounts to evidence against them, when it's not required,but they insisted on it........

[got mud?]

I'm leased on to a company that works the oil fields, 99% of the time I'm within 100 miles of the office.

Its there policy to log but legally i don't need to log and starting Nov 1st i will stop my log books and dicontinue logging. I realize the company i work for may let me go , what if any legal recourse will i have if they do?

chances are you work in an "at will" state as most are. A job can let you go for any reason (excluding race, religion etc). Insubordination and not following company policy is not only grounds for termination but also denying a claim for unemployment. BOL to you!

[GMAN]

If you don't like the job then why don't you just quit? When you work for a company you follow their rules or leave. I can't believe anyone would set themselves up to lose their job over something so trivial. I think you are pulling our leg. No one would fail to use a log book when the company requires it unless they wanted to lose their job.

[2hellandback]

If you don't like the job then why don't you just quit? When you work for a company you follow their rules or leave. I can't believe anyone would set themselves up to lose their job over something so trivial. I think you are pulling our leg. No one would fail to use a log book when the company requires it unless they wanted to lose their job.

Why or what reason would i have to be pulling your leg?

At this point i dont care if they let me go! When i hired on this company told me i woul have more hours than i wanted , well that happened one 2 week pay period out of 5 months!

Ive been getting about half the hours i need to justify staying here with this company and ive felt they have kept me in reserve for cement loads that MAY come in because they are short on drivers that can haul cement, so i get no other loads cuz they dont want to get caught with there pants down.

And we have been heariing that there are some guys that have refused to log for 6 months now and havent been terminated.

[Malaki86]

If you're not happy, put in your notice, work it out and leave on good terms.

It's a whole lot easier to find a new job by doing that way than for getting fired for not following company policy...

[zipy46]

Log book helps keep the company clear if something should go wrong....
and it's what gets you hung should something go wrong and they find a falsehood or something
in your writing.


Guy in Minn is up the creek right now in federal court...4 (or 5) fatalities ...33 false hoods uncovered in his logbook.. up to 5 years for each violation

(PS:I have yet to find the reg stating you can drive outside of your 14 in order to find a "safe haven" when the customer tosses you off their lot once you deliver their product and by chance out of hours...anybody ??)

[BigDiesel]

I'm leased on to a company that works the oil fields, 99% of the time I'm within 100 miles of the office.

Its there policy to log but legally i don't need to log and starting Nov 1st i will stop my log books and dicontinue logging. I realize the company i work for may let me go , what if any legal recourse will i have if they do?

Unbeliveable........... You deserve to be terminated.....

[Trukrswyfe]

And we have been hearing that there are some guys that have refused to log for 6 months now and haven't been terminated.

If that is really true then they might have been just looking for something to blame it on.

Maybe..... they were told to let someone go, and YOU volunteer by not following co. policy.

They really don't need an excuse to let you go, but it helps.

In this economy I wouldn't be handing the employer a reason to choose you over others.

Think about it if they lay people off they have to pay unemployment but if you are justly let go, then well, sucks to be you, huh?

[HWD]

This IS stupid. Play by their rules or leave them. Seems simple to almost anyone. You say you heard some other guy said to hell with logging, so that's your grounds to snub your nose at those who sign your paycheck? Whatever. He may not have been fired but I guess you're willing to risk being the "example", that is, the first to get fired for it? This economy SUCKS right now. Get fired and you'll probably be unemployed for a LONG time. You will NOT be paid unemployment benefits if you are fired. "Insubordination" is a broad brush employers can paint your termination with. The state benefits office will see that and tell you to go hump a stump. If you have a family to support you better suck it up and do what you need to do for your family. Life sucks sometimes, and 99% of us do NOT get to do what we WANT to do for a living. I hope you wise up before your family pays for it. If you're single, well, then go live under a bridge for all anyone cares.

Remember, this economy SUCKS. You get fired or quit, well, the paycheck you are getting now is way better than no income at all.

[Jumbo]

If you dont like your job grow some balls and just quit. Dont make yourself some half ass martyr. Do your job or move on.

[zipy46]

Trucking companies in general wont pay you much attention unless you become a threat to

their security...