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    Default What does this mean for the trucking industry?

    Ok, I read the article but I would like to hear what it literally means for the individual driver and also for the country as a whole.



    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080910/...ucks_mexico_dc

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    Quote Originally Posted by truckermandude
    Ok, I read the article but I would like to hear what it literally means for the individual driver and also for the country as a whole.



    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080910/...ucks_mexico_dc

    When the pilot project goes through, Mexican trucking companies will be competing for loads on US/Canada soil.
    This is great news for everybody not in the trucking industry.
    CPM is a pay scam that most trucking company's use to get around paying overtime for excessive hours of work and other monitory issues.Get paid hourly and prevent sweat shop conditions.

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    How is it any different than the canadians coming over here, never hear anyone complaining about them.

    Oh, the mexican border will be open both ways so your free to haul the stuff all the way into Mexico if you want.
    My dispatcher wants to know why im not there yet, she says its only 2 inches away when she measured it on her map!

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    Not sure if this number was correct but I heard on the trucking channel that there are only about 120,000 CMV in Mexico total and only a small amount of these would be licensed to come over.

    Also they would only be allowed to bring in freight and take freight out again according to the Cabotage laws which prohibit foreign ships planes or transportation companies from moving freight between two points inside the US.

    Still what starts out small today and sounds harmless can grow into a monster, Canada was never a threat because they have higher standards and salaries, but Mexico being a third world country brings more problems than it is worth.

    Call your Senator and tell them how to vote if they want to get reelected, all we need is a 2/3 majority to override the presidents veto.

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    That's very optimistic. Unfortunately, you're missing quite a bit. The Mexican fleet historically is plagued with safety concerns, and is not bound by the same safety and maintenance or emissions regulations trucks in the rest of North America are. You may also consider that IFTA isn't enrolled in the IFTA programme, and, should that be allowed to continue, it effectively sets a double standard for American trucks vs. Mexican trucks operating on US highways.
    And do you really think you're going to start hauling into Mexico? If you get into an accident there, the person you get into an accident with has the option of having you arrested and jailed, should you be determined to be at fault. Then you might get a load going to someplace such as Chiapas, or any other region of Mexico which isn't known for being particularly hospitable to anyone holding a US passport. But, if you have a family willing to pay your ransom, you shouldn't have much more to lose than an ear or a finger

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    Mexican trucks have already been hauling freight in the U.S. They pay their drivers less and have less overhead than U.S. carriers. I spoke with one broker who told me that she lost one of her major shippers to a Mexican carrier. Apparently, the Mexican carrier went in and slashed the rate to a point U.S. carriers were not willing to haul. Some of the Mexican carriers are partnered with U.S. carriers. Celadon has been hauling in and out of Mexico for a while. Some of the Larger U.S. carriers want the Mexican trucks to have access to the U.S. market. It would enable them to skirt around some of the U.S. laws by hiring more Mexican drivers. Most U.S. carriers are unwilling to cross the border, regardless of the ability to do so. I would not want to take a truck across the border.

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    [quote="GMAN"]Mexican trucks have already been hauling freight in the U.S. They pay their drivers less and have less overhead than U.S. carriers. I spoke with one broker who told me that she lost one of her major shippers to a Mexican carrier. Apparently, the Mexican carrier went in and slashed the rate to a point U.S. carriers were not willing to haul. Some of the Mexican carriers are partnered with U.S. carriers.


    Global Competition. Like i said this going to be great for the consumer.
    CPM is a pay scam that most trucking company's use to get around paying overtime for excessive hours of work and other monitory issues.Get paid hourly and prevent sweat shop conditions.

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    Yes, great for the consumer. The deal with Canada, we don't have a problem with illegal Canadians now do we? Safety concerns are a big deal with Mexican trucks also. DOT has apparently been told to not touch the trucks coming out of Mexico, carte blanche for them to come in with faulty equipment. If you believe that those trucks are safe, your a fool. Canadian trucks don't seem to have such faulty equipment.

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    Currently, only 19 Mexican carriers have been granted authority. FMCSA records also indicate that only 247 (6.7%) of 3680 trips list destinations beyond the commercial zones with 89% of those listing destinations in California.
    My dispatcher wants to know why im not there yet, she says its only 2 inches away when she measured it on her map!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash935
    Currently, only 19 Mexican carriers have been granted authority. FMCSA records also indicate that only 247 (6.7%) of 3680 trips list destinations beyond the commercial zones with 89% of those listing destinations in California.

    This will change when the pilot project is over and the flood gates open.
    CPM is a pay scam that most trucking company's use to get around paying overtime for excessive hours of work and other monitory issues.Get paid hourly and prevent sweat shop conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMAN
    Mexican trucks have already been hauling freight in the U.S. They pay their drivers less and have less overhead than U.S. carriers. I spoke with one broker who told me that she lost one of her major shippers to a Mexican carrier. Apparently, the Mexican carrier went in and slashed the rate to a point U.S. carriers were not willing to haul. Some of the Mexican carriers are partnered with U.S. carriers. Celadon has been hauling in and out of Mexico for a while. Some of the Larger U.S. carriers want the Mexican trucks to have access to the U.S. market. It would enable them to skirt around some of the U.S. laws by hiring more Mexican drivers. Most U.S. carriers are unwilling to cross the border, regardless of the ability to do so. I would not want to take a truck across the border.
    It's also a "safety". With the talk at various times about U S drivers going out on strike, it would be a simple matter to have trucks from other countries take over and our strike would have far less effect. Never mind the fact that you can not get two drivers to agree on the time of day.
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    The Senate has yet to take action on the issue and unless Senate leaders can garner a veto-proof two-thirds vote against the program it appeared set to continue.
    Politicians at all levels of gov't (The Establishment), have been working against We The People, for far too many years.

    Palin is a breath of fresh air, but she don't lead the ticket. D or R -- slightly different sides of the same coin.

    If ever an anti-Establishment vote was needed, this election is the one.

    But, there is little hope for ever turning this country around.

    The influence of those over 45 will continue to shrink, through attrition.

    Those under 45 don't know no better, since they grew up with ever increasing rules, regulations and policies of micro management.

    Combined with the indoctrination through the gov't-run public school system, and the younger generations are much more complacent, regarding gov't control and influence.

    Never mind that all this puts the USA business, employer and employee alike, at a competitive disadvantage.

    The Establishment has been working to our detriment, for the benefit of not only mexico, but all other nations, and the illegal aliens that come through our porous borders, from around the world.

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    For many years our elected officials have been working in their personal interests rather than that of U.S. citizens. The main problem is apathy. Most people don't want to take the time to find out how their representatives vote. Another problem is how a good bill can get messed up by some attaching non related bills or amendments that only add a lot of pork. If bills could not be amended or combined in any way, it would greatly reduce the pork. The way bills are passed it makes it difficult to get through all the bull. If one representative wants to see a bill passed he may go along with an amendment that isn't in our best interest. The result is a big pork bill gets through when it would not have gotten through on it's own. Until Americans start holding their representatives accountable, things are not going to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMAN
    For many years our elected officials have been working in their personal interests rather than that of U.S. citizens. The main problem is apathy. Most people don't want to take the time to find out how their representatives vote. Another problem is how a good bill can get messed up by some attaching non related bills or amendments that only add a lot of pork. If bills could not be amended or combined in any way, it would greatly reduce the pork. The way bills are passed it makes it difficult to get through all the bull. If one representative wants to see a bill passed he may go along with an amendment that isn't in our best interest. The result is a big pork bill gets through when it would not have gotten through on it's own. Until Americans start holding their representatives accountable, things are not going to change.

    truckers work so much,they don't have a chance to vote. Politicians know it, there fore the trucking community gets the shaft.
    CPM is a pay scam that most trucking company's use to get around paying overtime for excessive hours of work and other monitory issues.Get paid hourly and prevent sweat shop conditions.

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    I have never missed a vote due to trucking. I either vote absentee or early. There is no excuse for not voting just because you drive a truck. Anyone can get an absentee ballot if you know you may not be back in town. If someone fails to vote, it is because they don't want to make the effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMAN
    I have never missed a vote due to trucking. I either vote absentee or early. There is no excuse for not voting just because you drive a truck. Anyone can get an absentee ballot if you know you may not be back in town. If someone fails to vote, it is because they don't want to make the effort.
    Or because they believe the entire system to be a farce. Vote for whomever you like -- they will only win if it suits the power that actually runs the country.

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    Gman, dead on with how our elected officials have exploited the system. You need to read Vince Flynn's "Term Limits" if you haven't already. I would not mind seeing something like that go down but I also know it's wishful thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MommaKay
    Quote Originally Posted by GMAN
    I have never missed a vote due to trucking. I either vote absentee or early. There is no excuse for not voting just because you drive a truck. Anyone can get an absentee ballot if you know you may not be back in town. If someone fails to vote, it is because they don't want to make the effort.
    Or because they believe the entire system to be a farce. Vote for whomever you like -- they will only win if it suits the power that actually runs the country.

    The real power in this country lies with the people. If the people don't vote, then they are not exercising their power. Depending on whom you talk with, those who vote may only be as little as 20% of those qualified to do so. That is 1 in 5 people. Politicians don't want to lose their power. If they hear from enough people it can influence their behavior. If they don't hear from the people or their constituency, then they will listen to lobbyists or their other party members. I don't want someone else to decide who represents me. If we don't like the offerings being presented, then we can find our own candidates or run for public office ourselves. If there is a candidate you like, then work to help them get elected. If nothing else you could put a bumper sticker on your vehicle or sign in your yard. Those don't take any time and are at least helping. We do have some powerful people in this country. They do attempt to influence public opinion and are often successful. It is up to the individual to get beyond the media hype and see what these candidates are like before casting their vote. One vote can change the outcome in an election.

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