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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkjr
    honestly speaking there is only around 30 companies (also long as your over the age over 25) that will probably hire you out of school. maybe less than that because they have to be an company approved school... so please believe its BS about 250 companies!!
    You don't know what you are talking about.

    250 would be a LOW estimate of the number of companies that will hire someone right out of school.

    Do you have any clue how many trucking companies there are in the country?

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    Agreed Belpre. For what the cost is of that place and the training you do receive, I would want a refund on at least half of it.

    To get an A it's $5K, a B is $3K and if you want a B with a Passenger endorsement, it costs an extra $500..... :shock: The state of VA only charges $1 per year to have an endorsement and this place wants $500 to teach you even though you can read up on that endorsement in 2 minutes in the manual.

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    Unfortunately I'm only 21 so there will probably be a lot less companies that would hire me. Too bad my almost 2 years of drivng straight trucks doenst help me in getting a job.

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    Recruiter=Dispatcher in my eyes. They will all promise you the world. Then reality sets in, as long as they get what they want to make them selves look good they are happy. Tell them NO and watch the attitude come out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleep
    ...going to their training center and passing would be equal to 2 years OTR experience. My first thought was yeah right how could that be. I still think the same now. Now is that true or bs?
    Simple way to find out. Ask the recuiter if you can get two years pay for going to school... In one lump sum.
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    and they will rebuild them.
    Destroy the farms...
    and grass will grow in the streets of the cities.

    Destroy the economy of the blue-collar worker...
    and grass will grow in the executive offices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleep
    Unfortunately I'm only 21 so there will probably be a lot less companies that would hire me. Too bad my almost 2 years of drivng straight trucks doenst help me in getting a job.
    I was 21 when I first went to school. I had no problem finding a POS coolie job right out of school. Granted, that was back in 1997.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWulf
    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkjr
    honestly speaking there is only around 30 companies (also long as your over the age over 25) that will probably hire you out of school. maybe less than that because they have to be an company approved school... so please believe its BS about 250 companies!!
    You don't know what you are talking about.

    250 would be a LOW estimate of the number of companies that will hire someone right out of school.

    Do you have any clue how many trucking companies there are in the country?
    i tell you what cowboy i will personally mail you $100 dollars if you can give me 100 companies that will hire out of school!! listen i'm not going to go off on a cursing rant but let me threw some facts out and you be the judge..

    First of all some companies won't hire of you coming of school because simply because of your age.. you can be 21 and can go out of state but most companies have age requirements of 23.. that alone puts a big dent in trying to find a company being under 23 to train with..

    Second, Some companies will only hire out of a pre-approved school.. I.E. look a Crete!! they won't even give you the time on the phone unless you went to an pre approved school by there standards...

    Third, Hiring Raduis!! So yeah maybe you right there are 250 trucking companies that will take students.. So i take a regional carrier out of Washington State that runs the Western 11 should be one of the top priorities for a student who just graduated out of a school in Florida?? get real!!

    What i'm saying is a student who has a clean record over the age of 25 has maybe 30 to 40 options depending on where he lives from LTL, to Beverage Delivery, to Regional and OTR...
    Now if you know where i can have 250 choices to choose from living in one area?? please inform me!!!

    But the only way your going to have 250 companies to choose from is to have over 2 to 5 years experience!! and i'm pretty sure won't no one disagree with me on that!!!

    no go try to earn your $100 dollars... i'm waiting!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleep
    Unfortunately I'm only 21 so there will probably be a lot less companies that would hire me. Too bad my almost 2 years of drivng straight trucks doenst help me in getting a job.
    actually believe it or not it will at some places.. i had a chance for a regional position hauling cement but do to where i live i couldn't get it but one of the questions he asked me was have i had experience driving large trucks, straight or rigs. and i told him my ex girlfriend dad had a farm and i would drive a 24' flatbed truck that was under cdl to haul hay on and he said that was an excellent thing cause i had experience driving large vehicles outside of just going to school.. but he couldn't hire me cause i live 100 miles away from the terminal (damn living in the middle of nowhere!!) but at some places it will!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkjr
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWulf
    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkjr
    honestly speaking there is only around 30 companies (also long as your over the age over 25) that will probably hire you out of school. maybe less than that because they have to be an company approved school... so please believe its BS about 250 companies!!
    You don't know what you are talking about.

    250 would be a LOW estimate of the number of companies that will hire someone right out of school.

    Do you have any clue how many trucking companies there are in the country?
    i tell you what cowboy i will personally mail you $100 dollars if you can give me 100 companies that will hire out of school!! listen i'm not going to go off on a cursing rant but let me threw some facts out and you be the judge..

    First of all some companies won't hire of you coming of school because simply because of your age.. you can be 21 and can go out of state but most companies have age requirements of 23.. that alone puts a big dent in trying to find a company being under 23 to train with..

    Second, Some companies will only hire out of a pre-approved school.. I.E. look a Crete!! they won't even give you the time on the phone unless you went to an pre approved school by there standards...

    Third, Hiring Raduis!! So yeah maybe you right there are 250 trucking companies that will take students.. So i take a regional carrier out of Washington State that runs the Western 11 should be one of the top priorities for a student who just graduated out of a school in Florida?? get real!!

    What i'm saying is a student who has a clean record over the age of 25 has maybe 30 to 40 options depending on where he lives from LTL, to Beverage Delivery, to Regional and OTR...
    Now if you know where i can have 250 choices to choose from living in one area?? please inform me!!!

    But the only way your going to have 250 companies to choose from is to have over 2 to 5 years experience!! and i'm pretty sure won't no one disagree with me on that!!!

    no go try to earn your $100 dollars... i'm waiting!!!
    I have no interest in doing research for you or anyone else, and I don't need your measly hundred bucks.

    I never said anything about hiring radius or where a person lives, that is irrelevant to your erroneous statement about there being less than 30 companies.

    Think outside of the box a little, if you can.

    The mega-carriers may be the most visible, but the fact is they make up only a small percentage of the companies who hire drivers. There are thousands of owner operators around the country who run only a few trucks that will hire a newbie. IF that newbie is knowledgeable, honest, hard working, reliable, etc... and not some young know it all punk kid.

    I can easily name 20 companies within a 100 miles radius of where I live that hire 18 year olds fresh off the farm to run local, regional, and OTR.

    Guess what... sometimes a person has to move to a different area of the country to get a good job, be realistic. If there aren't any jobs where you live, go to where they are!

    Complaining about not being able to find a job and then refusing to be proactive about moving to where the jobs are is idiotic.

    Having 2 or more years experience definitely opens up the options, no argument there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWulf
    I never said anything about hiring radius or where a person lives, that is irrelevant to your erroneous statement about there being less than 30 companies
    i know you didn't.. i strictly telling you based on where someone lives and where a company is hiring from a graduated from a school sometimes isn't eligible to join that company.. I.E, if they are only hiring up and down the I-95 Corridor, odds are the student that lives up and down on the I-85 corridor isn't eligible!! so again based on where he/she lives she only has really 30 to 40 options maybe more depending where he/she lives.. I've heard people come on and say that schenider doesn't hire students from maine due to the freight and training period.. right there prime example..

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWulf
    The mega-carriers may be the most visible, but the fact is they make up only a small percentage of the companies who hire drivers. There are thousands of owner operators around the country who run only a few trucks that will hire a newbie. IF that newbie is knowledgeable, honest, hard working, reliable, etc... and not some young know it all punk kid.
    and that all depends on who you know and what you know.. i know a owner operator and he says he can't put me in a truck of his if he wanted to due to the fact of who he's lease to and the insurance regulations. so you right there might be owner operators willing to take a chance but is a student suppose to go find him if he doesn't has ads in the paper or a sign on his truck?? put an ad in the paper?? hold a sign up at the truck stop?? go to truckers home and knock on doors who don't have a swift, j.b hunt. or schenider truck parked in his yard and ask him if he's a owner operator and can they drive for him?? come on man you think outside the box

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWulf
    I can easily name 20 companies within a 100 miles radius of where I live that hire 18 year olds fresh off the farm to run local, regional, and OTR.
    right there is where you are wrong because in every singe state you have to be 21 to go out of state. i tell you what name me 20 that will hire me as of being 21 right this second?? can you do that for me?? 18-21 coming out of school to find a job is very very difficult!! they can't go out of state and they are young.. not alot of people are willing to put 80,000 pounds behind someone who just got out of high school let alone and pay them a damn good wage!! like i said their are beverage haulers, food delivery, farm jobs, logging, and dump trucking but its going to be hard and press to find!!


    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWulf
    Guess what... sometimes a person has to move to a different area of the country to get a good job, be realistic. If there aren't any jobs where you live, go to where they are!
    As much as i wanted to be a truck driver i don't think i'll move thousands miles away to earn an extra few thousands dollars from family and friends.. when odds are the pay scale is going to be that much different.. and plus most people who get into trucking don't have any money to move somewhere else!! why do u think most people outside of some who wanted to do since they were younger or who could just have the money and want a new career, get into driving trucks?? there not making enough money and they want to make more!!

    now your turn.... and like always anyone can tell me if i'm wrong at anytime!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkjr
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWulf
    I never said anything about hiring radius or where a person lives, that is irrelevant to your erroneous statement about there being less than 30 companies
    i know you didn't.. i strictly telling you based on where someone lives and where a company is hiring from a graduated from a school sometimes isn't eligible to join that company.. I.E, if they are only hiring up and down the I-95 Corridor, odds are the student that lives up and down on the I-85 corridor isn't eligible!! so again based on where he/she lives she only has really 30 to 40 options maybe more depending where he/she lives.. I've heard people come on and say that schenider doesn't hire students from maine due to the freight and training period.. right there prime example..
    If you live in an area like that... MOVE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWulf
    The mega-carriers may be the most visible, but the fact is they make up only a small percentage of the companies who hire drivers. There are thousands of owner operators around the country who run only a few trucks that will hire a newbie. IF that newbie is knowledgeable, honest, hard working, reliable, etc... and not some young know it all punk kid.
    and that all depends on who you know and what you know.. i know a owner operator and he says he can't put me in a truck of his if he wanted to due to the fact of who he's lease to and the insurance regulations. so you right there might be owner operators willing to take a chance but is a student suppose to go find him if he doesn't has ads in the paper or a sign on his truck?? put an ad in the paper?? hold a sign up at the truck stop?? go to truckers home and knock on doors who don't have a swift, j.b hunt. or schenider truck parked in his yard and ask him if he's a owner operator and can they drive for him?? come on man you think outside the box
    Why shouldn't someone go knock on doors? If you want a job, then go find it! What, you expect someone to just walk up and offer it to you?

    A vast percentage of available jobs never advertise in the paper or online. The only way to find them is to put yourself out there and ask.

    Talk to drivers everytime you have a chance. Drive around and when you see a small company lot, stop in and have a chat.

    Stay away from the guys who are leased on to the big fleets, most of them are only slowly going out of business anyway. Go find some independents who are operating under their own authority.

    Yes, some of them won't be able to hire you based on their insurance, but this doesn't mean that nobody will.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkjr
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWulf
    I can easily name 20 companies within a 100 miles radius of where I live that hire 18 year olds fresh off the farm to run local, regional, and OTR.
    right there is where you are wrong because in every singe state you have to be 21 to go out of state. i tell you what name me 20 that will hire me as of being 21 right this second?? can you do that for me?? 18-21 coming out of school to find a job is very very difficult!! they can't go out of state and they are young.. not alot of people are willing to put 80,000 pounds behind someone who just got out of high school let alone and pay them a damn good wage!! like i said their are beverage haulers, food delivery, farm jobs, logging, and dump trucking but its going to be hard and press to find!!
    I meant to type 21 and hit 18 instead... but the remainder of what I said still stands.

    Finding a job is not near as hard as you are trying to make it sound. See above for a few ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWulf
    Guess what... sometimes a person has to move to a different area of the country to get a good job, be realistic. If there aren't any jobs where you live, go to where they are!
    As much as i wanted to be a truck driver i don't think i'll move thousands miles away to earn an extra few thousands dollars from family and friends.. when odds are the pay scale is going to be that much different.. and plus most people who get into trucking don't have any money to move somewhere else!! why do u think most people outside of some who wanted to do since they were younger or who could just have the money and want a new career, get into driving trucks?? there not making enough money and they want to make more!!

    now your turn.... and like always anyone can tell me if i'm wrong at anytime!!
    You won't move to make your life better or to get the career you want? How very sad and pathetic.

    Go ahead and keep living in your own comfortable little bubble, complaining about how hard everything is, but don't do anything about it. That makes a lot of sense.

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    I'm 18 and I just got my CDL permit with double/triple and tanker endorsement. I got it through the DMV and I called alot of companies and they told me I need to be 21-25 and/or have experience. Does that stop me from trying? No I found a company that hires at 18 and I'm waiting on them to get back with me. I stopped looking temporaily cause like I said I'm waiting on them to get back to me. I'm determined to find a job driving a truck and juggle my last year of high school even though I'll only be there from 8am-11am. Yeah it can be frustrating that companies are turning me down but you know it's motivating and it's making me more determined than ever to get into the seat of a rig and follow my dream. Keep your chin up and something will come your way, I can promise you that but you have to be willing to put the time and effort into finding a driving job. Age and insurance may be setbacks but to me they are motivation. You can accomplish ANYTHING that you want to if your put your mind, time, and effort into it.

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    why in the hell would i move... wait stop rant here.. light bulb!!! do u know how expensive it is to move?? the extra money you moving somewhere else to make is going right into the tank to pay for moving expenses and getting a house/apartment?? seriously, and extra 2,000 to 3,000 isn't going to get me to move to the other side of the coast.. not to mention the cost of living is higher in certain parts of the country.. hell people that work at mickey d's in certain parts of california make $9 to $10 dollars an hour!! why in the hell do u think gas is so expensive over there then in other parts of the country.. i will admit if i had the money to move maybe 100 or so miles away i would do so.. but thousands of miles away for a few couple grand!! hell no!! 10,000 or 15,000 we talking, but odds are that's not going to happen!! now you keep taking cheap shots at me it won't be pretty.. but i havent said not a damn word on how hard it is to get a job on here or any of my previous post on various topics..

    i'm not complaining or bitching about anything... i hear belpre has an investigation thingy on the side on this site.. please ask him to go look up my previous posts and see if i'm bitching or crying on any of my post about getting a job?? odds are if they are one.. its not more where they came from!!!

    so get your facts straight... and the statement "if you live in an area like that... move!!" very assine!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkjr
    why in the hell would i move... wait stop rant here.. light bulb!!! do u know how expensive it is to move?? the extra money you moving somewhere else to make is going right into the tank to pay for moving expenses and getting a house/apartment?? seriously, and extra 2,000 to 3,000 isn't going to get me to move to the other side of the coast.. not to mention the cost of living is higher in certain parts of the country.. hell people that work at mickey d's in certain parts of california make $9 to $10 dollars an hour!! why in the hell do u think gas is so expensive over there then in other parts of the country.. i will admit if i had the money to move maybe 100 or so miles away i would do so.. but thousands of miles away for a few couple grand!! hell no!! 10,000 or 15,000 we talking, but odds are that's not going to happen!! now you keep taking cheap shots at me it won't be pretty.. but i havent said not a damn word on how hard it is to get a job on here or any of my previous post on various topics..

    i'm not complaining or bitching about anything... i hear belpre has an investigation thingy on the side on this site.. please ask him to go look up my previous posts and see if i'm bitching or crying on any of my post about getting a job?? odds are if they are one.. its not more where they came from!!!

    so get your facts straight... and the statement "if you live in an area like that... move!!" very assine!!
    Your refusal to consider it as a viable option, even more asinine.

    Sure I know it takes money to move, but not several thousand dollars unless you are hiring movers or renting a truck. I've moved several times in a car or pickup for a few hundreds of dollars.

    Of course living costs are higher some places, duh.

    The smart thing to do would be to find a place where the wages out pace the cost of living. Easy to do if you have even a shred of sense.

    I just did a quick online search... I stopped counting at 100 jobs for drivers, mostly local jobs, all paying 18+ an hour in CO and WY. Oilfield work.

    Good luck.

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    Some schools are better than others--- better paying companies might accept students ONLY from one of these-- better schools.

    The recruiter MIGHT have meant -- that graduating from HIS school-- would put you 2 years worth of Pay ahead of many other Newbie drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkjr
    why in the hell would i move... wait stop rant here.. light bulb!!! do u know how expensive it is to move?? the extra money you moving somewhere else to make is going right into the tank to pay for moving expenses and getting a house/apartment?? seriously, and extra 2,000 to 3,000 isn't going to get me to move to the other side of the coast.. not to mention the cost of living is higher in certain parts of the country.. hell people that work at mickey d's in certain parts of california make $9 to $10 dollars an hour!! why in the hell do u think gas is so expensive over there then in other parts of the country.. i will admit if i had the money to move maybe 100 or so miles away i would do so.. but thousands of miles away for a few couple grand!! hell no!! 10,000 or 15,000 we talking, but odds are that's not going to happen!! now you keep taking cheap shots at me it won't be pretty.. but i havent said not a damn word on how hard it is to get a job on here or any of my previous post on various topics..

    i'm not complaining or bitching about anything... i hear belpre has an investigation thingy on the side on this site.. please ask him to go look up my previous posts and see if i'm bitching or crying on any of my post about getting a job?? odds are if they are one.. its not more where they came from!!!

    so get your facts straight... and the statement "if you live in an area like that... move!!" very assine!!
    Your refusal to consider it as a viable option, even more asinine.

    Sure I know it takes money to move, but not several thousand dollars unless you are hiring movers or renting a truck. I've moved several times in a car or pickup for a few hundreds of dollars.

    Of course living costs are higher some places, duh.

    The smart thing to do would be to find a place where the wages out pace the cost of living. Easy to do if you have even a shred of sense.

    I just did a quick online search... I stopped counting at 100 jobs for drivers, mostly local jobs, all paying 18+ an hour in CO and WY. Oilfield work.

    Good luck.

    I also didn't hear anyone talk about the fact-- you have to be a resident of a state- to change your CDL over to that state--- before many companies will HIRE YOU to work for them-- from that location.
    So, right there-- is a gamble --You got to move first-- then hope to hire on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by "headborg
    I also didn't hear anyone talk about the fact-- you have to be a resident of a state- to change your CDL over to that state--- before many companies will HIRE YOU to work for them-- from that location.
    So, right there-- is a gamble --You got to move first-- then hope to hire on.
    Sure, that can be a gamble depending on where you go.

    I've been in that situation twice. Both times, I was offered a job contingent on me being able to change over my CDL before starting work. I used the address of the company I was going to work for, went down to DMV, and had a new license in hand the same day both times.

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