Reduired to work longer to make the same $$$

[Evinrude]

Just got the news over the qualcomm. The Company announced that company drivers will need to work long this year if they wont to get the same mileage as the previous year as they are reducing the speed of our fleet. Looks like it time to move on.

[thebaldeagle655]

Don't think moving on will do much good in the long term. Most of the majors and a lot of the smaller companies seem to be cutting back on the top end to save fuel. Back to the old double nickel days soon!

[Sealord]

Who's the company? BOL

[clawHAMMER]

Tell me what company, or industry for that matter, where you're not going to have to work longer to make the same kind of money these days? It's a fact of life here in 2008 in the good ole USA.

The cost of living has gone into the stratasphere while the pay hasn't (except if your an oil baron). Unless your a doctor, but then your malpractice insurance has quadrupled. But, it's pretty much across the board in every line of work, from real estate investors and agents to business owners.

Either it's more hours for the same money, or, less money for the same hours.

Jumping companies for the reason you mentioned really wouldn't change anything IMO. You might find a company with faster trucks but less miles, you sit more, have to unload etc etc.

Would the pros outweigh the cons where your at now?

So your truck is turned down a couple of mph slower, no big deal. If you sit in the saddle for 10 hours a day averaging 60 mph, with everything being equal, it'll take you an additional 20 minutes longer to get there, doing my trucker math.

Maybe just more bugs to wash off your windshield next time you stop for fuel.

[Mackman]

Just got the news over the qualcomm. The Company announced that company drivers will need to work long this year if they wont to get the same mileage as the previous year as they are reducing the speed of our fleet. Looks like it time to move on.

Get A driving job paying by the hour then you dont have
to worry.

[belpre122]

Just got the news over the qualcomm. The Company announced that company drivers will need to work long this year

Only a coolie carrier would have the nerve. Look at it as a blessing and move on.

[all18wheels]

i beleive we had a long hard argument about this topic a while back.
seems to be a trend turning down the speed on most of these carriers.
better get used to it
i know when i run in AZ, NM and other states that i can run 70+, my MPG dropps to about 4.75.
when i run line in CA, i get 5.75.
so just going from 70+ to 59mph, thats a 1MPG difference.
it can add up to millions for large fleets

[all18wheels]

Just got the news over the qualcomm. The Company announced that company drivers will need to work long this year if they wont to get the same mileage as the previous year as they are reducing the speed of our fleet. Looks like it time to move on.

Get A driving job paying by the hour then you dont have
to worry.

LOL, this is exactly why we get stuck behind a grocery store truck doing 53MPH.
when you make 22 bucks an hour, whats the rush?

a little more experience for me and i look foward to doing 53 in a grocery truck

[jamesinge]

It is a pay cut plain and simple. No reason the driver should have to pay for the higher fuel with his wages.

Widget maker tells person that works 8 hours a day making widgets. Gee the cost of the Widget material has really sky rocketed. I will need you to work 12 hours a day now for the same pay.

Driver getting the shaft and taking it.

Stay or quit , but dont cry about what it is. It is as plain as day a pay cut.

[Graymist]

It is a pay cut plain and simple. No reason the driver should have to pay for the higher fuel with his wages.

Widget maker tells person that works 8 hours a day making widgets. Gee the cost of the Widget material has really sky rocketed. I will need you to work 12 hours a day now for the same pay.

Driver getting the shaft and taking it.

Stay or quit , but dont cry about what it is. It is as plain as day a pay cut.

The question is, is management also being required to run harder to stand still. Judging by my prior experience is that "exalted" cadre, I should think not !!

Tell me what company, or industry for that matter, where you're not going to have to work longer to make the same kind of money these days?

I get a cost of living raise every year.

It's a fact of life here in 2008 in the good ole USA.

Maybe for you.

Jumping companies for the reason you mentioned really wouldn't change anything IMO. You might find a company with faster trucks but less miles, you sit more, have to unload etc etc.

Don't jump companies...jump INDUSTRIES. Get out of coolie OTR trucking and into something that pays better. Go to school and get a degree, learn a trade, take some classes at your local community college or vo-tech. OTR trucking is a dead-end job.

So your truck is turned down a couple of mph slower, no big deal. If you sit in the saddle for 10 hours a day averaging 60 mph, with everything being equal, it'll take you an additional 20 minutes longer to get there, doing my trucker math.

Well that's an extra 2 hours per week you have to work to make the same money. Or an extra 4 days per year.

[bigtimba]

It is a pay cut plain and simple. No reason the driver should have to pay for the higher fuel with his wages.

Widget maker tells person that works 8 hours a day making widgets. Gee the cost of the Widget material has really sky rocketed. I will need you to work 12 hours a day now for the same pay.

Driver getting the shaft and taking it.

Stay or quit , but dont cry about what it is. It is as plain as day a pay cut.

Yet another pearl of genuine CAD wisdom. Clear, concise and correct. I applaud you, my friend*.

You, me and Lebron should start a club.


*A person with whom one is allied in a struggle or cause; a comrade.

[bigtimba]

So your truck is turned down a couple of mph slower, no big deal. If you sit in the saddle for 10 hours a day averaging 60 mph, with everything being equal, it'll take you an additional 20 minutes longer to get there, doing my trucker math.

So . . what the heck is trucker math?

My company will be much better off if I hop in the seat and drive for free, therefore I'll drive for free?

Or maybe "Our trucks operate most efficiently with the key in the off position, therefore we'll leave the keys in the off position?"

The freight has to move. No freight = no economy = no USA. There is a cost associated with moving freight. As the cost of fuel rises, have the maritime workers said they'd work for less? Have the railroad workers stepped up to say they'd work for less? Are bus drivers volunteering a pay cut?

Which freakin' planet are you from and why do you value your work so little?

Despite the best efforts of the turds that have squirted their way onto the American political scene, the huge majority of US freight is still moved by US citizens. US citizens who raise kids, maintain homes and buy the very freight which we commit our lives to moving.

Pay needs to go up and not down, you . . you . . I can't say it at the risk of being deleted.

Which freakin' planet are you from and why do you value your work so little?

They're all the same. They justify paycuts and working for free so they can keep prices low at the stores...except of course that prices AREN'T low at the stores.

Pay needs to go up and not down, you . . you . . I can't say it at the risk of being deleted.

Don't get mad, just get out of that industry filled with dumbasses.

[GMAN]

During difficult economic times, everyone will need to make compromises. Or you could do like the steel union workers did some years ago and refuse to make some compromises to help make the company viable. They lost their jobs and most steel is now produced abroad. I won't get into to the pay cut debate, but unless your rate has changed, then you are still making the same pay as before. :wink:

During difficult economic times, everyone will need to make compromises.

Why don't the CEO's take paycuts from their multi-million dollar salaries? Why doesn't ExxonMobil take paycuts from the billions they rake in each quarter? Why doesn't the government take paycuts and cut our taxes in these difficult times as you say?

If you want to pull for the same rates you did last year, 2 years ago, etc then have at it. It's a free country.

Or you could do like the steel union workers did some years ago and refuse to make some compromises to help make the company viable. They lost their jobs and most steel is now produced abroad.

Because union workers wouldn't agree to work for $4.00/day?

I won't get into to the pay cut debate, but unless your rate has changed, then you are still making the same pay as before. :wink:

Well I'm making more than I did last year and the year before. And I'll make more next year too. Not everyone out there is dumb enough to take paycuts.

[Ronin]

The rate can change but the real issue is miles. I left a .32cpm position at Swift to go to a smaller outfit that pays .30cpm, and do you know why? Miles.

Would you rather be like some of those guys at JB or Swift and make serious cpm and get no miles? That's why I steer everyone who asks clear of JB. That .42 cpm looks great on paper. But 0 miles times any rate still equals 0 dollars and that's not trucking math, that's third grade math.

[kc0iv]

During difficult economic times, everyone will need to make compromises.

Why don't the CEO's take paycuts from their multi-million dollar salaries? Why doesn't ExxonMobil take paycuts from the billions they rake in each quarter? Why doesn't the government take paycuts and cut our taxes in these difficult times as you say?

If you want to pull for the same rates you did last year, 2 years ago, etc then have at it. It's a free country.

Or you could do like the steel union workers did some years ago and refuse to make some compromises to help make the company viable. They lost their jobs and most steel is now produced abroad.

Because union workers wouldn't agree to work for $4.00/day?

I won't get into to the pay cut debate, but unless your rate has changed, then you are still making the same pay as before. :wink:

Well I'm making more than I did last year and the year before. And I'll make more next year too. Not everyone out there is dumb enough to take paycuts.

LeBron James said "Because union workers wouldn't agree to work for $4.00/day? "

So how is being unemployed better than taking a pay-cut?

kc0iv

[Orangetxguy]

Well I'm making more than I did last year and the year before. And I'll make more next year too. Not everyone out there is dumb enough to take paycuts.

LeBron James said "Because union workers wouldn't agree to work for $4.00/day? "

So how is being unemployed better than taking a pay-cut?

kc0iv

Now...... don't go confusing LBJ/CFM..or his issues. Low man on the totem-pole still makes fewer $$ in a union than the mid level or top level totem-pole sitters in a union shop..and he doesn't want to talk about that...just like he doesn't want to talk about union's doing "give & take" when a company is on hard times...or on the rocks.

The rate can change but the real issue is miles. I left a .32cpm position at Swift to go to a smaller outfit that pays .30cpm, and do you know why? Miles.

You've got it backwards. Why don't you find an outfit that pays more .cpm and runs you less miles?

So how is being unemployed better than taking a pay-cut?

Explain to me how someone is supposed to live in the US on wages paid to workers in China and Mexico? One of my customers is Eaton and they closed down one of their US hose-making plants...a NON-UNION Texas plant...and moved it to Mexico because they could pay workers $14.00/day and one meal.

It is not preferable to be unemployed, however it is preferable to find a lesser-paying "service economy" job that can't be outsourced like OTR or better yet, go back to school and increase skills/education.

Now...... don't go confusing LBJ/CFM..or his issues. Low man on the totem-pole still makes fewer $$ in a union than the mid level or top level totem-pole sitters in a union shop..and he doesn't want to talk about that...just like he doesn't want to talk about union's doing "give & take" when a company is on hard times...or on the rocks.

Of course low-man makes less money - it's called paying your dues. Do you walk into an OTR outfit and start at top-rate and get a brand-new spec'd out Pete and all the gravy runs? Of course not.

How would you like to have 20 years in a place and the company cuts your hours and gives your run to a new-guy making less money? That's why there's a seniority system in place...not that you would understand it.