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    By profession I work with computers and I have done okay; about $48K / year. Back in January I was layed off for the second time and I kinda have lost my faith in Corporate America. I decided to travel around the world by motorcycle. The money didn't last as long as I would have liked and now I need to find some work.

    I saw an ad in the paper looking for truckers. They said that the training would take 3 weeks (Mon-Fri) and I would have a total out of pocket expense of only $200. They said the cost of training was $4995 to be paid by the hiring company. They promised that I would have a job lined up before graduation. They said that I could start training on this Monday. There is no pay during training but immediately upon graduation I would earn between $800 / wk and $1500 / wk.

    Getting ready for my trip I sold everything I own and canceled my lease. Technically I am homeless, lol so I don't have to return to any home or family anywhere. I am somewhat not a people person or at least don't like being forced to deal with people constantly.

    Would trucking allow me to be able to work for a few months on and a few months off? I still want to tour the world and don't know where I would settle from time to time. Would I be able to pick up in any part of the World (or at least US) find work relatively easily for a couple of months?

    Thanks everyone for you input.

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    Hi pred8tr....

    Just my .02.

    I recommend www.newbiedriver.com to get a good idea of what you're getting into. Lots of info.

    You didn't say what company you're going with or what kind of trailer you'll be pulling but be VERY VERY careful. Please do your homework and check out a lot of trucking forums to see what is being said about the various companies. I'm assuming you are going to work for a large carrier; you should be aware of both good and bad reports, but take the negatives with a grain of salt. Some drivers who have had a bad experience brought it on themselves (of course they won't tell you the whole story).

    If you like being alone this is a good occupation. It's one of the things I enjoy most.

    Not being paid during training would be a BIG red flag for me. Doesn't sound good.

    If you want to work on again/off again that's something you need to discuss with your employer. Just my opinion, but I don't think most companies would be happy about it. You can find work again easily if you're not too picky, but job hopping every few months doesn't look good on an application. Best of luck to you.

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    Also...most companies that commit to pay for your training will require you to stay for 12 months post graduation in order for that committment to be honored. If you leave early, you will owe a % of the training cost. You need to check the fine print and ask (in writing) for the policy of whatever company you are looking at so you know up front what is required.

    Good luck to you in your world travels..sounds like a fun life style for a foot loose and fancy free person.

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    Default Re: Is trucking right for me?

    Quote Originally Posted by pred8tr
    By profession I work with computers and I have done okay; about $48K / year. Back in January I was layed off for the second time and I kinda have lost my faith in Corporate America. I decided to travel around the world by motorcycle. The money didn't last as long as I would have liked and now I need to find some work.

    I saw an ad in the paper looking for truckers. They said that the training would take 3 weeks (Mon-Fri) and I would have a total out of pocket expense of only $200. They said the cost of training was $4995 to be paid by the hiring company. They promised that I would have a job lined up before graduation. They said that I could start training on this Monday. There is no pay during training but immediately upon graduation I would earn between $800 / wk and $1500 / wk.

    Getting ready for my trip I sold everything I own and canceled my lease. Technically I am homeless, lol so I don't have to return to any home or family anywhere. I am somewhat not a people person or at least don't like being forced to deal with people constantly.

    Would trucking allow me to be able to work for a few months on and a few months off? I still want to tour the world and don't know where I would settle from time to time. Would I be able to pick up in any part of the World (or at least US) find work relatively easily for a couple of months?

    Thanks everyone for you input.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pred8tr
    immediately upon graduation I would earn between $800 / wk and $1500 / wk.
    That seems to be a bit... overly optimistic, I suppose I would say.

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    I was layed off for the second time and I kinda have lost my faith in Corporate America How 'bought an IT job in a logixtics company?. I decided to travel around the world by motorcycle. The money didn't last as long as I would have liked and now I need to find some work.

    I saw an ad in the paper looking for truckers. They said that the training would take 3 weeks (Mon-Fri) Yup and I would have a total out of pocket expense of only $200 Get it in writing. They said the cost of training was $4995 to be paid by the hiring company Only if the company hiring you has tuition reimbursement, normally paid at a rate of $100/month. Do the math, figure out how long you'd gave to be with your initial hirer.. They promised that I would have a job lined up before graduation. A school can't ethically promise that. They said that I could start training on this Monday They want your but in their seat. There is no pay during training but immediately upon graduation I would earn between $800/wk and $1500/wk. Have 'em show you copies of pay sheets.

    Getting ready for my trip I sold everything I own and canceled my lease. Technically I am homeless, lol so I don't have to return to any home or family anywhere. You'll need a tax residence, usually a good thing to match the address on your license. I am somewhat not a people person or at least don't like being forced to deal with people constantly. You'll be dealing with people all the time, shippers, receivers, the fuel desk, the shop, etc, etc.

    Would trucking allow me to be able to work for a few months on and a few months off? Not for the first year or two. I still want to tour the world and don't know where I would settle from time to time. Would I be able to pick up in any part of the World (or at least US) find work relatively easily for a couple of months? Once you're experienced, sounds like a casual position might interest you. What's your 20?. BOL

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    if you were laid off, you could be eligible for state or county paid training.

    i was laid off and collected unemployment while the county paid for my commercial training.

    i do not recommend you put yourself in a position to be exploited by a "training" truck driving company. there are many other better options.

    going from a desk job to a trucking job will be quite a change and will come to a shock to you, i promise. but, it is possible. i did it, and im happy. i do miss my cushy desk job, though
    The Green Grass on the other side, still needs to be mowed

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    Join the club about the IT world. I spent 30 odd years in IT.

    Here's some gotcha's:
    That $5k you will have to pay no matter what. If you don't get your CDL you have to pay, If you don't make it with the company you will have to pay.
    As already mentioned, you will sign an agreement to stay witht he company for a certain amount of time. If you don't - guess who pays for the CDL.
    Some companies pay students by the miles, some a flat salary.
    Your pay is determined by the number of miles you run, so you need to figure what's going to happen when you have 0 miles.


    This link: http://truckdriversparadise.wordpress.com/ will take you to my site with
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    -Carrier Information (Excel Only)
    -Job Hots Search file (Excel and Web Page)
    -as well as links to pictures for you to look at.

    Expediting is different, but the same, but it's different. I'm so confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Wagon
    I recommend www.newbiedriver.com to get a good idea of what you're getting into. Lots of info.
    That page has a LOT of good information. Thanks for the tip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffTheTerrible
    Quote Originally Posted by pred8tr
    immediately upon graduation I would earn between $800 / wk and $1500 / wk.
    That seems to be a bit... overly optimistic, I suppose I would say.
    Yeah, I figure the recruitment spiels is about 80/20 BS to Truth. I was hoping that being able to better my salary was a reality though. What is realistic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pred8tr
    Quote Originally Posted by JeffTheTerrible
    Quote Originally Posted by pred8tr
    immediately upon graduation I would earn between $800 / wk and $1500 / wk.
    That seems to be a bit... overly optimistic, I suppose I would say.
    Yeah, I figure the recruitment spiels is about 80/20 BS to Truth. I was hoping that being able to better my salary was a reality though. What is realistic?
    28 cents a mile. 1000-2500 miles a week.
    The Green Grass on the other side, still needs to be mowed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sealord
    How 'bought an IT job in a logixtics company?
    Honestly, though I would take another IT job right now if the salary was what I am used to, I dunno. I just have this disdain (fear?) for another IT job and I am having issues setting it aside. This problem is prolly beyond the scope of this thread.

    I saw an ad in the paper looking for truckers. They said that the training would take 3 weeks (Mon-Fri) Yup and I would have a total out of pocket expense of only $200 Get it in writing. They said the cost of training was $4995 to be paid by the hiring company Only if the company hiring you has tuition reimbursement, normally paid at a rate of $100/month. Do the math, figure out how long you'd gave to be with your initial hirer.. They promised that I would have a job lined up before graduation. A school can't ethically promise that. They said that I could start training on this Monday They want your but in their seat. There is no pay during training but immediately upon graduation I would earn between $800/wk and $1500/wk. Have 'em show you copies of pay sheets.

    Here is my current view. If the pay WERE to be $800 - $1500 / wk I would be glad to pay back the $4995 loan out of pocket if need be. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather keep the cash in my pocket but if, say, I determined 2 weeks into it that I couldn't stand trucking and had to get out, I would work the 3 weeks to 1.5 months required to pay off the loan and be pleased with the fact that I have earned a CDL.

    You'll need a tax residence, usually a good thing to match the address on your license.
    I keep a PO box in my home town, but could see buying a small piece of unimproved land somewhere if that was required to make this work. I would hate to actually have a 'home' though and would not want excess expense. I think I'd rather stay on the road.

    You'll be dealing with people all the time, shippers, receivers, the fuel desk, the shop, etc, etc.

    Thus is life to a degree I guess but surely this is way less people-pleasing than having my primary job function making people happy with their computer rather than fixing a problem that doesn't exist? But I digress.

    Would trucking allow me to be able to work for a few months on and a few months off? Not for the first year or two.

    That there is some bad mojo.
    My 20 is Myrtle Beach South Carolina right now. Home is Richmond, VA but I've been here in Myrtle Beach (part of my world tour) for nearly a month through Harley Bike Week and now Memorial Day Bike Weekend.
    Thanks again folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by all18wheels
    if you were laid off, you could be eligible for state or county paid training.

    i was laid off and collected unemployment while the county paid for my commercial training.

    i do not recommend you put yourself in a position to be exploited by a "training" truck driving company. there are many other better options.

    going from a desk job to a trucking job will be quite a change and will come to a shock to you, i promise. but, it is possible. i did it, and im happy. i do miss my cushy desk job, though
    I had not considered this at all. I was laid off. My entire building closed. I have refrained from collecting unemployment considering I haven't until 3 weeks ago been looking for a job... but I would absolutely take the paid for training. Unfortunately I imagine that means going back to VA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by all18wheels
    Quote Originally Posted by pred8tr
    Quote Originally Posted by JeffTheTerrible
    Quote Originally Posted by pred8tr
    immediately upon graduation I would earn between $800 / wk and $1500 / wk.
    That seems to be a bit... overly optimistic, I suppose I would say.
    Yeah, I figure the recruitment spiels is about 80/20 BS to Truth. I was hoping that being able to better my salary was a reality though. What is realistic?
    28 cents a mile. 1000-2500 miles a week.
    That math would make them straight up liars then. $280 - $700 week isn't what they promised.

    For this plan to be the God-send Id like it to be I would really like to better my salary (though right now it's zero). That means I would like a make better than $2600 after tax monthly. Granted, $700 /wk betters that, but is 2500 miles reasonable? How many hours a week equates to 2500 miles?

    Thanks for the input.

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    You have 70 hours available on your logbook each week. You either work that 70 and then take a break, or, the better option, use careful time management to ensure that your hours don't run out. What you can accomplish in a day's time, how much time you have to deliver the load, and how far you have to go within that timeframe dictates the practicality of this.
    Your weekly mileage probably depends on the company you go to work for. Initially, you'll probably start off a little slower, and won't get as many as the drivers who've been there for a little bit. Afterwards, it picks up.
    What they also failed to mention in your driving school brochure is that before you're given a truck and told, "Go get 'em!", you'll have to undergo a period of time with a driver trainer, during which, you'll probably receive a menial fixed salary for that period of training.
    Always remember that a recruiter is exactly that - a recruiter. Some will lie to you, some will simply neglect to mention certain things - either way, their purpose is recruitment.

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    Going from a "cushy" desk job to being a virtual nomad involves a minor lobotomy.

    However, if you've enjoyed roaming the USA on your cycle, then perhaps it won't be that much of an adjustment.

    Just remember that an OTR national/regional company driver roams the roads usually on a given route ad nauseum (so freedom to go on the road less traveled--the scenic route--is usually not the route that your company will encourage/require you to take).

    Eventually, what you'll miss the most, is your home....

    On the one hand, the OTR lifestyle is not for everyone. On the other hand, you won't know 'till you try it.

    Best in your thinking-it-through Pred8tr!

    - A former IT'er

    P.S. And yes -- you will deal with people...some of whom will drive you nuts--much more than your worst corporate boss nightmare. :shock:
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    Quote Originally Posted by pred8tr
    Quote Originally Posted by all18wheels
    if you were laid off, you could be eligible for state or county paid training.

    i was laid off and collected unemployment while the county paid for my commercial training.

    i do not recommend you put yourself in a position to be exploited by a "training" truck driving company. there are many other better options.

    going from a desk job to a trucking job will be quite a change and will come to a shock to you, i promise. but, it is possible. i did it, and im happy. i do miss my cushy desk job, though
    I had not considered this at all. I was laid off. My entire building closed. I have refrained from collecting unemployment considering I haven't until 3 weeks ago been looking for a job... but I would absolutely take the paid for training. Unfortunately I imagine that means going back to VA.
    no offense, but if you dont collect unemployment, your an idiot. that's what it is for. you paid into it.
    you dont neccesarily have to go back to VA to collect VA unemployment.
    look into it. dont cheat yourself. there is NO shame in collecting unemployment if you dont abuse it.

    as far as pay goes, thats pretty accurate .$27-30CPM is the norm for a newbie from a training school.
    most trucks are governed @ 60-62 MPH X 11 hours driving MAX per day.
    given traffic and quick stops, figure 55 MPHx11 = 550 per day or so.
    you will not get to that point every day due to the waiting time at docks unloading and loading gobbling up your 14 hour day. so, 2500 is a good max to bet on. problem is, you may be spending some time in the truckstop waiting for loads. this would drop your weekly average. this is why i say 1000-2500 per week.

    Dude, im being honest when i say: dont beleive recruiters. this business sucks. if you can find a better job, do it. if you want to goof around and see the country and dont need much $$$$. then fine, give it a try.
    otherwise, beware
    The Green Grass on the other side, still needs to be mowed

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigWheels
    However, if you've enjoyed roaming the USA on your cycle, then perhaps it won't be that much of an adjustment.
    I do enjoy the adventure.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigWheels
    Just remember that an OTR national/regional company driver roams the roads usually on a given route ad nauseum (so freedom to go on the road less traveled--the scenic route--is usually not the route that your company will encourage/require you to take).
    What would be ideal for me is to be able to drive from point A to point B. hopefully have a few days at point B to myself. Then go from point B to point C. Spend a few days there. etc...

    Is that unrealistic? If I have any kind time off AT the destination the route is fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigWheels
    Eventually, what you'll miss the most, is your home....
    Fortunately for me I don't think I will have that problem. I am comfortable with an extraordinarily solitary life. No home & No family to worry about. I've been on the road about a month now and the thing I dread the most is the prospect of having to go back to Richmond, find a place to live and get a 9-5.

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    actually, the air ride seat is pretty cushy.
    i don't see it as driving, i see it as being in my office all day, but i can take my office to teh restaurant if i want ;P

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