City Driving Logging "Metro"

[Manicmechnic]

Manic.....By "GPS", I meant that they had installed the black boxes that send out location/speed etc every 30 seconds. In other words, they installed a little "snitch" under the dashboard. There is no driver interface involved.

Oh ok that answered my question. But here is the info about Automatic on board recording devices.


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§395.8 Driver's record of duty status.

(a)(2) Every driver who operates a commercial motor vehicle shall record his/her duty status by using an automatic on board recording device that meets the requirements of §395.15 of this part. The requirements of §395.8 shall not apply, except paragraphs (e) and (k)(1) and (2) of this section.
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§395.15 Automatic on board recording devices.


(a) Authority to use automatic on-board recording device.

(a)(1) A motor carrier may require a driver to use an automatic on board recording device to record the driver's hours of service in lieu of complying with the requirements of §395.8 of this part.

[kc0iv]

Manic.....By "GPS", I meant that they had installed the black boxes that send out location/speed etc every 30 seconds. In other words, they installed a little "snitch" under the dashboard. There is no driver interface involved.

Oh ok that answered my question. But here is the info about Automatic on board recording devices.


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§395.8 Driver's record of duty status.

(a)(2) Every driver who operates a commercial motor vehicle shall record his/her duty status by using an automatic on board recording device that meets the requirements of §395.15 of this part. The requirements of §395.8 shall not apply, except paragraphs (e) and (k)(1) and (2) of this section.
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§395.15 Automatic on board recording devices.


(a) Authority to use automatic on-board recording device.

(a)(1) A motor carrier may require a driver to use an automatic on board recording device to record the driver's hours of service in lieu of complying with the requirements of §395.8 of this part.

If you follow on to section (b) of 395.15 you read additional information about the use of Automatic on board recording devices.

(b)(1) Automatic on board recording devices shall produce, upon demand, a driver's hours of service chart, electronic display, or printout showing the time and sequence of duty status changes including the drivers' starting time at the beginning of each day.

(b)(2) The device shall provide a means whereby authorized Federal, State, or local officials can immediately check the status of a driver's hours of service. This information may be used in conjunction with handwritten or printed records of duty status, for the previous 7 days.

(b)(4) The driver shall have in his/her possession records of duty status for the previous 7 consecutive days available for inspection while on duty. These records shall consist of information stored in and retrievable from the automatic on board recording device, handwritten records, computer generated records, or any combination thereof.

You you see to use an Automatic on board recording devices there has to be some display that will printout or display the driver's duty status. If what belpre122 described such a unit would not conform to FMCSA requirements.

kc0iv

[Manicmechnic]

Manic.....By "GPS", I meant that they had installed the black boxes that send out location/speed etc every 30 seconds. In other words, they installed a little "snitch" under the dashboard. There is no driver interface involved.

Oh ok that answered my question. But here is the info about Automatic on board recording devices.


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§395.8 Driver's record of duty status.

(a)(2) Every driver who operates a commercial motor vehicle shall record his/her duty status by using an automatic on board recording device that meets the requirements of §395.15 of this part. The requirements of §395.8 shall not apply, except paragraphs (e) and (k)(1) and (2) of this section.
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§395.15 Automatic on board recording devices.


(a) Authority to use automatic on-board recording device.

(a)(1) A motor carrier may require a driver to use an automatic on board recording device to record the driver's hours of service in lieu of complying with the requirements of §395.8 of this part.

If you follow on to section (b) of 395.15 you read additional information about the use of Automatic on board recording devices.

(b)(1) Automatic on board recording devices shall produce, upon demand, a driver's hours of service chart, electronic display, or printout showing the time and sequence of duty status changes including the drivers' starting time at the beginning of each day.

(b)(2) The device shall provide a means whereby authorized Federal, State, or local officials can immediately check the status of a driver's hours of service. This information may be used in conjunction with handwritten or printed records of duty status, for the previous 7 days.

(b)(4) The driver shall have in his/her possession records of duty status for the previous 7 consecutive days available for inspection while on duty. These records shall consist of information stored in and retrievable from the automatic on board recording device, handwritten records, computer generated records, or any combination thereof.

You you see to use an Automatic on board recording devices there has to be some display that will printout or display the driver's duty status. If what belpre122 described such a unit would not conform to FMCSA requirements.

kc0iv

Good catch I only sumarized it.
So that is why it they installed a little "snitch" under the dashboard.

[Manicmechnic]

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA)
Commercial Enforcement Division
1200 New Jersey Avenue SE,
Washington, DC 20590
Phone: (202) 385-2423
Fax: (202) 385-2422

Is there a way to ask with out given name of CO. and my CDL#?