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    Quote Originally Posted by roadhog
    Quote Originally Posted by Double L
    I would just feel bad if I seen someone in trouble and didn't offer them any help. But at the same time it's a bad quality cause people could try to sue you or something!
    Double L...

    The Good Samaritan Law is there to protect you. It is unlikely you would be in any trouble for trying to help someone in distress, or responding in any way necessary as the situation calls for.

    Good Samaritan laws (acts) in the United States and Canada are laws/acts protecting from blame those who choose to aid others who are injured or ill. They are intended to reduce bystanders' hesitation to assist, for fear of being sued or prosecuted for unintentional injury or wrongful death.


    In my case, I am a licensed EMT. I am held to higher standards.

    Hate to post this but… Tort Law: Tort Liability Negligent Undertaking; case study numbers in the thousands of settled and contested losses. Research it some time – un-F’ing Believable. :evil:

    I have always tried to do what was right and will continue in spite of Tort law. I help those who I can, to the very best of my ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackman
    keep truckin I dont like to get my self involed in BS like that. Next thing you know you might have to end up in court and deal with all that stuff.
    That one little sentence sure says alot about you....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockee
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    keep truckin I dont like to get my self involed in BS like that. Next thing you know you might have to end up in court and deal with all that stuff.
    That one little sentence sure says alot about you....
    I'm gonna have to agree, like someone else said what if it was your family member, wouldn't you want someone to help? I remember when CX Robinson of Champaign, Illinois was still in business. There was this story of this female trucker who helped lady cause she lost control of her car. The lady of the car hated homosexuals and truck drivers! Here comes the tragic part of the story, the lady truck driver tried everything in her power to save her sons life but he passed away. The officer asked the truck driver to tell the lady her son didn't make it so she did. Anyway the lady and the truck driver talked after that and got along great and the lady that lost her son had a new found respect for truck drivers!

    I use to read it alot and just reading it made me thankful and respect truck drivers much more, even though it runs in my family it's still a joy to hear good stories about truck drivers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadhog
    The Good Samaritan Law is there to protect you. It is unlikely you would be in any trouble for trying to help someone in distress, or responding in any way necessary as the situation calls for.
    Quoting from: http://firstaid.about.com/od/medical...qt/goodsam.htm "In some states, good Samaritan laws only cover medically trained rescuers, while other states extend protection to the general public. The good Samaritan concept is commonly applied in the courts, which means a case going that far may still be ruled in favor of the rescuer who was trying to help. What good Samaritan laws do for rescuers is provide a get-out-of-court-free card. In other words, unpaid rescuers may prevail in court with or without a good Samaritan law, but it's a lot cheaper if they have the protection.

    The best way to protect yourself from possible liability when helping others is to always act on behalf of the victim. That may sound obvious, but if your motivation is to be a hero and not to help out a fellow human, then you risk making the types of mistakes not covered by good Samaritan laws.
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    I have to agree with almost everyone here, doing the right thing is ALWAYS worth the time.

    I got lucky in the accident I had back in December, although I was mad as heck at the time. The other driver who had hit me drove away, and I was by myself on the side of the road explaining it to the MD state police. They wrote it up as a hit and run, and it all worked out, but I thought for a minute....what if he had stopped and offered "his version" of the story....his word against my word....

    with no witnesses, this could have worked out very, very bad for me, especially since I've only been driving for a few months, and this UPS driver has obviously been driving longer.....

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    ....what is your point? What is with all the red ink? Are you trying to scare someone from helping someone out for fear of liability, even prosecution?
    Did you read the article you posted a link to? Did you comprehend what it said?

    There are always types who will stand and watch someone in need and do nothing. There are others whose conscience will not permit that. There are also many vultures called lawyers who will seek to profit, at any length. They have construed many laws to make that possible.

    You decide what kind of a person you need to be. You are the one who has to look at yourself in the mirror.

    You know... I am reminded of a Scripture in the Bible, I can't quote it, but it says how the hearts of man in the end times will become cold. It describes how people will even step over a dying man on the street.

    Sadly, I must admit, I would even help a lawyer, if they were in any need.
    But if I know that person is a lawyer, I will certainly make sure I have their consent to help them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trukrswyfe
    Most of us have been in a situation where the helpful and needful act of a stranger made the difference for us. That is why we see the significance in lending a hand.

    Mack sorry but you are young but one day you'll see the personal benefit to helping out a complete stranger regardless of your hurry. When you sit on the side of the highway watching someone take their lasts breaths and being thankful you could do that for another human being. Then going to that person's family and giving those priceless words they wouldn't have heard. You will be changed to your core and be glad of it.

    Life is priceless, true story: I have fished my son out of pool, he was four, and it haunted me for almost a year the site of my son blue, lifeless, eyes wide open. Thank God for people who stay and help and don't run away. This isn't a slam I don't care to change your mind, but remember my words because you will change your mind.

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    I'm so thankful that your son was being watched over. The loss of a child, or the immediate danger of losing a child is one cross that I've never had to bear. I constantly pray that I never have to. Quite honestly, the strength needed to bear that cross is strength that I do not possess.

    Peace & Blessings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadhog
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    ....what is your point? What is with all the red ink? Are you trying to scare someone from helping someone out for fear of liability, even prosecution?
    Did you read the article you posted a link to? Did you comprehend what it said?

    There are always types who will stand and watch someone in need and do nothing. There are others whose conscience will not permit that. There are also many vultures called lawyers who will seek to profit, at any length. They have construed many laws to make that possible.

    You decide what kind of a person you need to be. You are the one who has to look at yourself in the mirror.

    You know... I am reminded of a Scripture in the Bible, I can't quote it, but it says how the hearts of man in the end times will become cold. It describes how people will even step over a dying man on the street.

    Sadly, I must admit, I would even help a lawyer, if they were in any need.
    But if I know that person is a lawyer, I will certainly make sure I have their consent to help them.
    What my point? Very simply. Some states do not have a Samaritan laws or as the article said other ONLY protect medically trained rescuers. Try doing a Google search on "Samaritan laws." I did BEFORE I made the post in question.

    You on the other hand made a blanket statement that the Samaritan law would protect someone who provided aid.

    Now what I do? I'd perform ALL aid I know how to do and worry about any lawsuit latter.

    As to the scriptures -- They can be found in Matt:24:5-24-51and Rev: 11:3-11:12. None of which speak of stepping "over a dying man on the street." However, to help you look at Luk 30-10:37.

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    kcOiv,
    You have a comprehension problem.
    Knock yourself out proving whatever point you must make.
    I see your motivation is to find fault however you possibly can.

    Thump that Bible all you feel you need to. Maybe you will find what you need, but you are not going to preach down to me.


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    We usually get accidents after it rains because people think they can still do 80mph when it's pouring. I have stopped and helped people on the highway, even just to ask if they are okay. After they had passed me speeding and then hitting the barrier .

    One day someone crossed the median and hit a lady. There was no one around yet, so I made the call to 911. The woman was shaken up and upset. I wouldn't move her from her car because she was badly hurt. She was also much bigger than me so moving her was impossible. Also had the baby in the car so I had to keep an eye on both. I was there until help arrived. Sometimes you just being there and being calm, even if the situation looks grave, is enough to comfort someone. They had to airlift her and I later learned she died.

    And in turn, strangers have helped me when I needed it. So what goes around comes around, even if it is years later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockee
    Quote Originally Posted by Mackman
    keep truckin I dont like to get my self involed in BS like that. Next thing you know you might have to end up in court and deal with all that stuff.
    That one little sentence sure says alot about you....
    Oh i forgot you are just so perfect. Sorry if i got places to be and dont have time to waste. If it was something really bad like someone was killed or what not then yea i would most likely stop. But for a fender bender. I will like i said before KEEP TRUCKIN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackman
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockee
    Quote Originally Posted by Mackman
    keep truckin I dont like to get my self involed in BS like that. Next thing you know you might have to end up in court and deal with all that stuff.
    That one little sentence sure says alot about you....
    Oh i forgot you are just so perfect. Sorry if i got places to be and dont have time to waste.If it was something really bad like someone was killed or what not then yea i would most likely stop.
    MOST LIKELY.....!
    But for a fender bender. I will like i said before KEEP TRUCKIN.
    Rockee was right about you

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    Quote Originally Posted by mommee
    We usually get accidents after it rains because people think they can still do 80mph when it's pouring.
    In New Jersey, people also think they can do 80 mph on heavy, wet snow, and on ice too. They have no concept of safe driving on dry roads either. I've gone up I-287, from Trenton and lost count how many 4-wheelers were off the road by the time I got to I-80. Not to mention by the time I got to I-84. Two inches of wet snow on the road. Just TWO inches. If I ever decided to move to New Jersey, I'd want a towing business.... And a crane so I could get the SUVs down off a 20 foot cliff over the road when they park up there. I can't understand it. They get snow every year, but every year, they forget how to drive in it.

    Maybe they never learned in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windwalker
    Quote Originally Posted by mommee
    We usually get accidents after it rains because people think they can still do 80mph when it's pouring.
    In New Jersey, people also think they can do 80 mph on heavy, wet snow, and on ice too. They have no concept of safe driving on dry roads either. I've gone up I-287, from Trenton and lost count how many 4-wheelers were off the road by the time I got to I-80. Not to mention by the time I got to I-84. Two inches of wet snow on the road. Just TWO inches. If I ever decided to move to New Jersey, I'd want a towing business.... And a crane so I could get the SUVs down off a 20 foot cliff over the road when they park up there. I can't understand it. They get snow every year, but every year, they forget how to drive in it.

    Maybe they never learned in the first place.
    You ever encountered a California driver in the snow I'm from Indiana and I got to say CA drivers in rain is bad but in the snow OMG. If it wasn't so dangerous it would be the funnies thing I've ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackman
    Oh i forgot you are just so perfect. Sorry if i got places to be and dont have time to waste. If it was something really bad like someone was killed or what not then yea i would most likely stop. But for a fender bender. I will like i said before KEEP TRUCKIN.
    Lol good one, I am far from even close to being perfect. Some day you might realize that its just not a big deal to take an extra fifteen minutes out of your day to help someone, what if it was you that needed it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windwalker
    Quote Originally Posted by mommee
    We usually get accidents after it rains because people think they can still do 80mph when it's pouring.
    In New Jersey, people also think they can do 80 mph on heavy, wet snow, and on ice too. They have no concept of safe driving on dry roads either. I've gone up I-287, from Trenton and lost count how many 4-wheelers were off the road by the time I got to I-80. Not to mention by the time I got to I-84. Two inches of wet snow on the road. Just TWO inches. If I ever decided to move to New Jersey, I'd want a towing business.... And a crane so I could get the SUVs down off a 20 foot cliff over the road when they park up there. I can't understand it. They get snow every year, but every year, they forget how to drive in it.

    Maybe they never learned in the first place.
    People in New Jersey can do 80mph in any weather. Didn't you know that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windwalker
    Would I?
    Yes, I DID.
    I-75 in GA. Southbound, just north of Perry. A trailer on the shoulder, and the tractor pulled out from under it. A flatbed in the middle, and a dryvan on the right. I was about 4 truck-lengths behind them. A green Ford Expedition in the left lane. When the truck in the right lane got to the trailer on the shoulder, it was like he suddenly woke up. He swerved to the center lane, and the flatbed also swerved to avoid him. The SUV was not able to get out of the way, and the whole side got new wrinkles from the runrail on the flatbed.

    With me, being in the center lane, I was not going to be able to stop at the scene, so I chased the dryvan. I've got a digital camera, and tried to get alongside the truck to identify the company pulling the trailer. No good. Everytime I tried to get alongside, he swung over , either to the right or left, depending which side I was trying to come alongside. Finally, I pointed the camera at the back of the trailer and made sure I got the license plate in the pic.

    Next exit, I did a flip and went back to the scene. The cops were already there, and an ambulance. I stopped on the shoulder and printed up my picture twice. Then I gave one to the officer and one to the flatbed driver. The officcer said they do not get that kind of information very often. With the pic, they would be able to trace the driver back from the company that owns the trailer. When they trace it all back to him, the flatbed driver (a nice looking lady) would not have to worry about her CDL. The one that caused it all would "shoulder" all the blame. He would not be in nearly as much hot water if he'd stopped. They do not like things that look like HIT AND RUN.

    No, he really did not do any damage to the flatbed, other than move the mirror out of adjustment. But that said that CONTACT WAS MADE. The officer said that the we would not have to worry about the driver of the dryvan much longer. When they caught up with him, he would no longer have a CDL for leaving the scene.

    I've also been known to take pics at a truck stop when someone takes lights and fender off of another truck. I've gotten a few that showed the side of the truck with the truck number, and the company name. And, when they drive off, that goes straight to the police that respond to the scene.

    For those of you that are not aware of it. Even on private property, if you hit another truck, either backing in or pulling out, and leave the scene, that's HIT AND RUN. If there's someone there, like me, with a camera that can identify your truck to the police, it will be much harder on you than if you stop and take your lumps.

    Including the one in GA, I believe there are about 4 drivers that will never drive a commercial vehicle again. And the one in Jessup, MD was an O/O. My wife got those pics. Tractor number, trailer number, and even a good pic of the driver's face all went to the police that responded to the scene.

    I think that more than half of the drivers out here have cell-phones. And, a lot of them have cameras incorporated in them. As technology improves, your chances of getting away with it are reducing all the time.

    I had two ocassions when my truck was damaged in one week. Both times at a Pilot. No one to hold responsible for it, so the damage came out of my own pocket. $2,600 damage. If you damage someone's truck and try to run, I will not let you get away with it. The next one you hit may be mine.
    Don't you think that chasing that truck and trying to get his picture put you and others in danger? I mean you obviously wasn't paying attention to the road. You could have caused another accident.

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