Training with Werner part 4

[Ekkaddon]

So far I have been with my trainer for almost two weeks. It really sucks and I want a different trainer but I'm afraid it will look bad and prolong my six week training period at 225 a week take home. Yesterday I missed an exit and my trainer just blew up at me. Gave me a 30 min speel on how students always screw up and don't know crap.

I told him I'm sorry but he kept going on and on and that's when I said, that's why I have a trainer to learn.

Man he got pissed and said its my fing truck, I'm the fing trainer and if you don't like it then your done.

This pissed me off because it was my 2nd mistake in driving directions in about 11 days and I have only showered once.

If I leave and ask for a new trainer it could delay me several days and looks bad on my report.

No Speak up your SO CALLED TRAINER is not doing his job. I am a former trainer myself and never would be treating you the way you are being treated. Turn him NOW yes it will delay a few days but your saftey is just as important plus may get him decertified as a trainer. You need to learn from a REAL TRAINER not someone that feels all you are is a SECOND set of hours. Send a Qcom message to the head of Saftey and flat out ask for a new trainer for your health and the fact he is flat out UNSAFE AS A TRAINER.

[Uturn2001]

YOU NEED TO CALL AND REQUEST A REAL TRAINER NOW.

No one deserves to be treated this way. You are right you are there to learn, and this idiot you are with is suppose to be there to teach. This is not happening and more than enough time has passed for things to have settled down.

[Uturn2001]

One last thing.

You need to step back and ask yourself, "If things continue as they are, am I truly going to be prepared for being a solo driver? Is my success worth spending an extra calendar week in training?"

[wackyncrazy]

I went through training with werner and you just need to call you SDM they understand that you don't alway get along with everyone and they will place you with a new trainer. Don't sit there taking all that crap form your current trainer you're not learning anything if you are always worried about what your trainer is going to say. Plus when you fill out the reveiw make sure to everything in it about every trainer you have had.

[BIG JEEP on 44's]

No Speak up your SO CALLED TRAINER is not doing his job. I am a former trainer myself and never would be treating you the way you are being treated. Turn him NOW yes it will delay a few days but your saftey is just as important plus may get him decertified as a trainer. You need to learn from a REAL TRAINER not someone that feels all you are is a SECOND set of hours. Send a Qcom message to the head of Saftey and flat out ask for a new trainer for your health and the fact he is flat out UNSAFE AS A TRAINER.

Fact is you may have been a decent trainer ,But the majority of trainers are not , And the chances of ending up in pretty much the same situation is pretty good . And pretty much every trainer will use him as a second set of hours ,as it is this second set of hours that allows the trainer to run extra miles at a discount CPM and make an alright check from jumbo sized miles by running like a team , so because almost every trainer at Werner is a trainer because Werner pays JACK SH$T per mile and their trips for solo OTR drivers look more like runs YELLOW ROADWAY would do it leaves only way to make money Which is to run an absurd amount of miles by putting a student on your truck . With this student you will also see some very long runs ...Like you should in the first place as an OTR driver ...


Here is something for the student to ponder...You are making a gross pay rate of $325.00 WK if you go 48 state you will start out at .26 CPM , and very likely you will only see 1800-2000 miles per wk , so you will only be making on average about $180.00 more than in training...And lets hope you don't go on one of those Regional fleets like Western or any of them as you will be making 15 CPM on your deadhead...That's right I said .15CPM DEADHEAD , And you will be making .21 Cpm on trips at 500miles and over ,Which is funny ,Because it seems that with this discounted rate of .21 CPM for trips at 500 or more you see tons of them plus a few hundred DH miles ....This makes for average pay weeks of around $500.00 GROSS @2500 miles on these regional runs , Which you may not always see 2500 miles a week at the...W....All this and you get paid by household movers guide miles to boot . I rember running a full 1000 mile trip between DH/LD miles and only made $170.00 because of the .15 CPM deadhead . You will go from running tons of miles as a student at $325 wk to running at most 2500wk with many 1800 mile weeks , and your issues will trade from a bad trainer to making JACK sH$T as a qualified driver :wink:

[Ekkaddon]

Well when backing into a dock to back up a bit slower I pushed in the clutch and he yelled at me for 20 min how you should never do that etc. Then I just got angry telling him I'm trying. He says how the hell will I learn backing up if I keep talking. So I said f that and called my manager requesting a new trainer. The bad part is our hours are shot and we are in Minnesota and closest place I can be dropped off at is PA

[BIG JEEP on 44's]

Well when backing into a dock to back up a bit slower I pushed in the clutch and he yelled at me for 20 min how you should never do that etc. Then I just got angry telling him I'm trying. He says how the hell will I learn backing up if I keep talking. So I said f that and called my manager requesting a new trainer. The bad part is our hours are shot and we are in Minnesota and closest place I can be dropped off at is PA

Well for most that are new the truck does not feel comfortable especially in reverse ,as you tend to over steer and you have little feel for judging speed of trailer correction ,, And you want to cluth to slow down ...This only gets better with time , and when you get comfortable with the truck you will not over work the clutch , as you will noty feel like the truck is speeding away from you ...However there are times when you need to edge in super slow and if you are in low rang reverse there is only one way to go much slower , and that is to work the clutch a little ...Your trainer probably only showers 1x weekly b/c he can't back a truck stop at any hour of the day comfortably ... :wink:

[Chevian]

I am so sorry to hear this!

But listen, do not wait for allentown, call you sdm up and tell them you feel threatened and need off the truck ASAP!

Request to be dropped in indy or Springfield, oh. You can also take a bus. If your sdm will not help, then ask to speak to the supervisor.

Just remember to say you feel threatened and it is unsafe to be in the truck with him.

God speed!

[chuck3507]

Definately report this guy. He obviously has a temper, and he does not appear to be safe, he is not clean, AND HE IS THE KIND OF DRIVER THAT GIVES US A BAD REP AND MAKES THE PUBLIC HATE US.

[dle]

Ekkaddon call your student manager NOW. Who is your manager anyway? Tell them the situation and that you want a new trainer. You will not learn anything in your situation. If you don't get a new trainer - find another company.

what good is it doing to get on here and bitch about your situation...grow some balls and do something about it.

[Ekkaddon]

I did call my manager but they won't drop me off untill Allentown. I drove all the way to Ohio/Penn state boarder last night so should be there soon. Man I would love a new company but this is the only one would hire me. I applied to 13 companies. Problem is I got a speeding ticket and I'm only 21 yrs old

[BIG JEEP on 44's]

I did call my manager but they won't drop me off untill Allentown. I drove all the way to Ohio/Penn state boarder last night so should be there soon. Man I would love a new company but this is the only one would hire me. I applied to 13 companies. Problem is I got a speeding ticket and I'm only 21 yrs old

I know your pain there I started driving in 2005 ,And in OCT 2004 I had 2 back 2 back 10 MPH tickets , So being that I got my CDL in July of 05 those tickets were on my 12 month history , and most companies would only allow 1 in the past 12 months , So I had to twork for the...W... for about 2 years . I would reccomend doing 3-6 months with Werner , And looking to company like crete , Because There isn't any money at the ...W... for a solo driver . I can't stress getting out asap from werner b/c the lack of pay per mile , and lack of good runs will get to you and your work ethic after a year or maybe less , As you will be broke , but expected to run , and act like the ...W...is best thing since sliced bread .

[chuck3507]

I did call my manager but they won't drop me off untill Allentown. I drove all the way to Ohio/Penn state boarder last night so should be there soon. Man I would love a new company but this is the only one would hire me. I applied to 13 companies. Problem is I got a speeding ticket and I'm only 21 yrs old

Have you appleid at Arrow? May not be the best, but it is definately a good starter company, and some guys have done well and stayed here for years.

[Zen Road Warrior]

I had the same trainer (maybe literally) with the same co. He had anger/rage problems, we switched shifts on the freeway, i'd drive 11 hours straight, no food breaks, no bathroom/truck stop breaks (had to use the freeway), and he was a complete ***.

here's the deal....i...i put up w/ it for 2 weeks because i thought it would look bad if i asked for a new trainer, and thought it would take a long time to get a new one. we ended up at a terminal, and i told him i'm getting off. i then called my sdm but got stuck with the night crew, which is useless. they said they can not authorize me to get off and that i need to get back on the truck because we had a good run and when my sdm would be back to work on monday (it was friday, of course).

I said , you don't understand...this isn't working out and i'm getting off.

they said fine but it's not authorized and you will be on a leave of abscence.

I didn't care...just wanted off the truck.

On monday, my sdm was in and got me back to a hotel and i had a new trainer within 1 day. My new trainer was....great. Cool guy ( not that this matters), taught me to back and was a good person. I also did get the sign on bonus because it wasn't my fault the trainer didn't work out.

It was not worth putting up with my first trainer for a single day.

Get a new trainer.

as a side note, the biggest lesson i've learned in my short time in trucking is you have to, you have to constantly stand up for yourself and be assertive or you will not survive.

Then, of course, we both need to find a better company.

[Shebear]

Well, every month or so I get a postcard from Werner. People don't want to believe me on this board sometimes, but I did have THREE TERRIBLE TRAINERS. The first, a woman, started out as a TRAINER for the money, of course, but didn't tell the company SHE HAD NIGHT BLINDNESS. She also thought bathroom breaks should be behind the cab in the morning.

The second trainer was an EXPERIENCED TRAINER, and he explained to me, seriously folks, THAT HE NEVER DOWNSHIFTS, just puts his foot on the brake when he pulls off the freeway. He was always in trouble with the Logging Department, as he kept forgetting the Qualcom and didn't have a clue how to use it anway. He took a dedicated run and left me high and dry back at the Springfield terminal.

The third trainer was GOD'S GIFT TO WOMEN, and he started groping me on day #1, subjecting me to late night porno radio while I was trying to sleep in the bunk, and talking constantly about his romantic life.

I reported this last man to my SDM and asked to be removed from the truck for sexual harassment, BUT WE HAD A LOAD so Werner refused.
This ROMEO TRAINER then was really mad with me then. I took a wrong turn one night in a construction zone trying to find the next truck stop, and so I had to wake him up to back out of a commercial zoned driveway I'd pulled into so as not to enter a residential area. He started screaming and abusing me so much that when I opened the door to get out to give him signals for backing out, I stopped thinking and fell backwards out of the passenger seat unto the pavement below.

Finally, at the truckstop, I got an armed security guard (outside of Chicago) to start watch while I got my stuff off the truck, some of which this TRAINER threw out of the window at me.

Now I am a 57 year-old married woman, and I didn't make any of this up. I'm still fit and I still believe I can do this job.

However, since taking a "LEAVE OF ABSENCE" from Werner, I've sold a house, moved, travelled some more, and am looking forward to the holiday season with my hubby at home.

I still need a good job.