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    Default wyoming/ utah point of entry scale question

    went into wyoming or was it utah (sometimes it all just runs together) the other day...i was a little confused on the scale/park/permit process.

    first i scaled, no problem, got the light but then there was a place to park and a permit check. was i supposed to park and go in with the state permit?

    i scaled and left but not sure if that was the right thing to do.

    is anyone familiar with this point of entry?

    thanks

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    My experience in Wyoming is that they do scale you and then want you to come in with your permits. They log in the id number and send you on the way. I had to do this a few times when I got the new truck before I got Prepass, haven't had to go into a Wyoming scale since.
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    If you are delivering in Wyoming then you are required to stop. Otherwise if you get a green light after scaling out then just go on. If they are wanting you to come in they will give you a red light and tell you what they want you to do.
    Finding the right trucking company is like finding the right person to marry. I really comes down to finding one whose BS you can put up with and who can put up wih yours.

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    Default Re: wyoming/ utah point of entry scale question

    Quote Originally Posted by Zen Road Warrior
    went into wyoming or was it utah (sometimes it all just runs together) the other day...i was a little confused on the scale/park/permit process.

    first i scaled, no problem, got the light but then there was a place to park and a permit check. was i supposed to park and go in with the state permit?

    i scaled and left but not sure if that was the right thing to do.

    is anyone familiar with this point of entry?

    thanks
    You are required to go in and declare your load..... Wyoming has a long memory for drivers who do not do this. Expect a citation next time.

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    A good rule of thumb in any state, when it doubt, stop and check it out.

    There have been times when I have gotten a bit confused at some of those weigh stations and ended up parking and going in to talk with the scale master. Most of the time we end up having a good chuckle and I learned something new. Never did have one get upset when I went inside and said:

    "I was not sure if I needed to stop and come in so I thought I would play it safe."
    Finding the right trucking company is like finding the right person to marry. I really comes down to finding one whose BS you can put up with and who can put up wih yours.

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    Default Re: wyoming/ utah point of entry scale question

    Quote Originally Posted by BigDiesel
    You are required to go in and declare your load..... Wyoming has a long memory for drivers who do not do this. Expect a citation next time.
    You sure about that? Back when, I used to go through Wyoming quite regular and never had to go in and declare a load. My thinking is green means go unless there is some signs or something stating otherwise

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    You are only required to go in if you are making a delivery within the state of Wyoming, unless they have changed it in the last 2 years. If you are just passing through you only have to stop and go in if told to do so.
    Finding the right trucking company is like finding the right person to marry. I really comes down to finding one whose BS you can put up with and who can put up wih yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uturn2001
    You are only required to go in if you are making a delivery within the state of Wyoming, unless they have changed it in the last 2 years. If you are just passing through you only have to stop and go in if told to do so.
    Wrong again....


    Be It Enacted by the Legislature of the State of Wyoming:

    Section 1. W.S. 11-24-108(c), 18-6-306,
    31-3-102(b)(iii), 31-18-301(c) and (d) and 31-18-805(c) are
    amended to read:

    11-24-108. Stock at large or picketed on public
    highways; penalties for violations; impoundment and
    disposition; fees; proceeds from sale thereof; removal of
    dead or injured animals.

    (c) Any sheriff, deputy sheriff, livestock brand
    inspector, or officer or patrolmantrooper of the Wyoming
    highway patrol, after notification to the owner of livestock
    described in subsection (a) of this section, if known, shall
    within four (4) hours remove the livestock from the public
    highway, impound the same in the nearest convenient place
    where feed and water are available and immediately notify
    the owner, if known, of the action. If ownership is not
    known, the impounding officer shall report his action to an
    inspector. The inspector shall make a diligent effort to
    ascertain ownership of the impounded livestock, and for this
    purpose may hold the livestock not more than ten (10) days.
    If unable to determine ownership, the inspector shall ship
    the impounded livestock to the nearest available market to
    be sold as estrays. Reasonable transportation and sales
    expenses shall be paid from the proceeds of the sale.

    18-6-306. Care of prisoners arrested by state trooper
    and other special officers.

    (a) Every sheriff or keeper of any jail shall provide
    space if available for holding any persons arrested by a
    state highway patrolman trooper or
    other special officer of
    the state lawfully entitled to make arrests, prior to their
    trial and final commitment or release subject to the order
    of the court having jurisdiction.

    (b) Every sheriff or keeper of a jail to which any
    persons may be committed by any state highway patrolman
    trooper or other special officer of the state shall be
    responsible for the safekeeping of such persons according to
    the terms of such commitment.

    31-3-102. Miscellaneous fees.

    (b) A five dollar ($5.00) fee shall be collected for
    each vehicle identification number inspected pursuant to
    W.S. 31-2-103(a)(vi). The fee shall be deposited as
    follows:

    (iii) If the inspection is performed by a state
    highway patrolman trooper then in the state's general fund; or

    31-18-301. Permanent cards and decals; operation
    without authority; inspections.

    (c) A copy of the current authority shall upon demand,
    be presented by the driver of the vehicle to any of the
    field investigators of the department, members of the state
    highway patrol or authorized personnel of the department at
    its ports of entry. Investigators, patrolmentroopers and
    authorized personnel may compel the driver to stop and
    submit the vehicle to an inspection by signs directing
    commercial vehicles or the motor carrier to stop at ports of
    entry or other locations designated by the department or by
    warning devices on vehicles of investigators, patrolmen
    troopers or authorized personnel. All ports of entry shall
    post signs or signals indicating when the facility is open
    and directing commercial vehicles or motor carriers to stop
    for inspection. Notwithstanding the provisions of this
    section, a vehicle that is properly registered, has a proper
    fuel license, valid authority and is legal in size and
    weight, upon approval by the department, may be authorized
    to bypass a port of entry unless specifically directed to
    stop by an investigator, patrolmantrooper or authorized
    personnel or by a sign or signal specifically requiring
    those vehicles to stop. These vehicles may, however, be
    required to slow to the designated speed and use the
    directed traffic lane for size and weight screening
    purposes.

    (d) Vehicles checking through a port of entry shall
    not be required to stop at any other port of entry within
    the state on that trip unless there is an increase in the
    size or weight of the vehicle or its load, or unless
    specifically directed to stop by an investigator, patrolman
    trooper or authorized personnel or by a sign or signal
    specifically requiring those vehicles to stop.

    31-18-805. Penalties for violations; permit where
    vehicle or load cannot be dismantled; enforcement; fines.

    (c) A driver of any vehicle, or combination of
    vehicles upon demand of any state highway patrolmantrooper
    having reason to believe that the weight of any vehicle or
    combination, including load, if any, is unlawful, shall stop
    and submit the vehicle or combination of vehicles and any
    load thereon to a weighing at any state owned or leased
    scales not to exceed five (5) miles from the declared route
    of travel, unless the vehicle has been weighed at a port of
    entry with the same load. The driver shall comply with the
    directions of the patrolman trooper to obtain the total
    weight or measurement of the load and vehicle.

    Section 2. This act is effective July 1, 1999.

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    thanks for the replies and the help. interestingly i have the prepass but it failed at the point of entry. but i did get the green light on the scale.

    it is a little confusing sometimes.....the only light or sign was a light that turns red or green. if you don't get the green light you would be blocking traffic in the whole lane.

    i've seen others that are clearer where there is a sign stating to park or an arrow. but this one was just red or green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDiesel
    All ports of entry shall
    post signs or signals indicating when the facility is open
    and directing commercial vehicles or motor carriers to stop
    for inspection.
    I take that to mean, if there is no signs or a loudspeaker saying come in and visit us.....green means GO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockee
    Quote Originally Posted by BigDiesel
    All ports of entry shall
    post signs or signals indicating when the facility is open
    and directing commercial vehicles or motor carriers to stop
    for inspection.
    I take that to mean, if there is no signs or a loudspeaker saying come in and visit us.....green means GO
    yep

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildice
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockee
    Quote Originally Posted by BigDiesel
    All ports of entry shall
    post signs or signals indicating when the facility is open
    and directing commercial vehicles or motor carriers to stop
    for inspection.
    I take that to mean, if there is no signs or a loudspeaker saying come in and visit us.....green means GO
    yep
    NOPE:

    Wyoming Port of Entry Info


    You still are supposed to go in and show them your permits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweety bird
    Quote Originally Posted by devildice
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockee
    Quote Originally Posted by BigDiesel
    All ports of entry shall
    post signs or signals indicating when the facility is open
    and directing commercial vehicles or motor carriers to stop
    for inspection.
    I take that to mean, if there is no signs or a loudspeaker saying come in and visit us.....green means GO
    yep
    NOPE:

    Wyoming Port of Entry Info


    You still are supposed to go in and show them your permits.
    Thats the link I was looking for.

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    I got the red light, no scale just go in and show my permits, got the green on my pre-pass for the next half dozen times, then last week I got the red light, my permits had expired and I'd just received new ones, my guess is that they knew my old ones were expired and wanted to check/register my new ones.

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    I stand corrected, my apologies

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    I don't deliver in Wyoming but I travel the 80 on every run, I go through the scale and get the green arrow pointing me to the parking area every time, have to go in and they log my DOT number and ask what I'm hauling... unless you have a pre-pass every truck has to go in (when they are open) and show them your DOT number and regisrtation.

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    Went thru Wyoming on Tuesday and ask the port officer and he confirmed that ALL commercial vehicles must stop unless you have Pre-Pass and a green light...

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    Quote Originally Posted by http://www.coopsareopen.com/wyoming-weigh-stations.html
    If you have PrePass and get the green, bypass light, you will not have to stop at a Wyoming Port of Entry. If you get the red light or if you do not have PrePass, you will be required to stop. They will weigh your truck and direct you to pull of the scale. You are then required to take your permits into the Port of Entry so they can check them. A green light when you are sitting on the truck scale means you have been weighed. It doesn't mean you can leave the Port of Entry.

    says nothing about going in and declaring a load delivering to the state of Wyoming even on green light


    or am i dumb and totally misread this post??
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    Go drive like a Christian or a Texan!!!!

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    I've been through there lots of times and the first time I got a green light but went inside. He checked my paperwork anyways but he said I should do what the light says and I should have just drove through.

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    Its been my experience that they almost always green light me on the scale with a green overhead arrow pointing towards the parking. I go in show permits and they ask what I am hauling. They said it had to do with a tax exemption for oil and gas.

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