Why government funding?

[Ghettofab75]

Why does the government give out so much money to help fund CDL schooling for so many people? I know the government is just trying to get people jobs so that they can go to work, pay taxes and get off of welfare or whatever. Thats good, but I don't understand why I only ever hear about this and truck driving? Why not other trades as well, construction, welding, machining, etc.....

Why does it seem that the number one job the government is willing to provide training for is truck driving?

Kevo

[COLT]

Because, if O.T.R truckers, weren't such loser's, their big screen T.V. s would cost 5 bucks more...

[Skywalker]

I'm pretty sure that if you look hard enough.... You can find that other occupations have retraining funds available. There are funds available to retrain people who have lost their jobs due to job loss that was not their fault.

[kc0iv]

Why does the government give out so much money to help fund CDL schooling for so many people? I know the government is just trying to get people jobs so that they can go to work, pay taxes and get off of welfare or whatever. Thats good, but I don't understand why I only ever hear about this and truck driving? Why not other trades as well, construction, welding, machining, etc.....

Why does it seem that the number one job the government is willing to provide training for is truck driving?

Kevo

Do a google search on government paid training

kc0iv

[Evinrude]

more drivers less drivers pay....its a no brain-er... What I don't understand is why do trainers keep training new drivers and keep our wages low.

Were I work our trainers stopped training and our wages and respect is improving rapidly.

[larryh31]

Why does it seem that the number one job the government is willing to provide training for is truck driving?
Kevo

The government program that you are referring to is called Workforce Investment Act or WIA for short. You should be able to find out the qualifactions for this program at you local unemployment office.

Trucking is not the only trade offered through WIA. A lot of people sign up for trucking because you can finish your training in a few weeks and start earning a paycheck, verses spending 6 months or more in school and not earning a paycheck while you are in other programs.

[ohiomohawk]

Why not other trades as well, construction, welding, machining, etc.....

Why does it seem that the number one job the government is willing to provide training for is truck driving?

Kevo

I bet there are as many nursing jobs as trucking jobs that need to filled. At the WIA here in Ohio they focus more on nursing than driving.


Welding and machining are not reliable trades anymore, there are some jobs availible but they are going to Mexico,China, Indonesia etc etc

how does training new drivers lower wages? do the new drivers set the rates for werner, swift, scheinder, etc? i thought salesmen and bigshots did that, damn i learn so much everyday on here.

[Bigmon]

Why does the government give out so much money to help fund CDL schooling for so many people? I know the government is just trying to get people jobs so that they can go to work, pay taxes and get off of welfare or whatever. Thats good, but I don't understand why I only ever hear about this and truck driving? Why not other trades as well, construction, welding, machining, etc.....

Why does it seem that the number one job the government is willing to provide training for is truck driving?

Kevo

To help the Mexicans.

[COLT]

how does training new drivers lower wages? .

Supply and demand...

[gordoUSA]

1.) There is a current shortage of OTR drivers for the amount of freight. More and more of our consumer goods are being manufactured overseas, not locally or regionally.
2.) No better jobs are being created.
3.) Only around 4 weeks training before earning income and paying back into the Medicare, Social Security and Welfare system.
4.) Taxpayer subsidy for corporations moving overseas. Then the corporations don’t have to spend money retraining American workers.
5.) The Mexicans have better paying jobs already and they wish to be in their new American “homes” on a regular basis.

[One]

The politicians that gave you this waste of taxpayer money gets lobbied by the ATA (American Trucking Ass.) and gets lots of money to work 4 them. The fact is when labor is easily available, wages drop - which happens to be the prime variable expense the Trucking cos. can influence.

Driver shortage is a myth put out by the ATA also for that same purpose. I know I can run many more miles than I do, and Im sure all the truckers sitting at the truckstop right now waiting on a load can too.

supply and demand? that is your answer? do yu really have any idea what you are talking about?

[Evinrude]

"]supply and demand? that is your answer? do yu really have any idea what you are talking about?[/quote]

Why don't you tell us how wages are set?

i beleive there are set ina contract between the company(shipper) and the company(transprtation). "we will haul good for this rate, this detention pay if needed, this surcharge, etc". how does the driver in a large company have any control over that. you wanna affect rates. buy your own truck and refuse to haul cheap frieght, stick to your guns.

[Evinrude]

i beleive there are set ina contract between the company(shipper) and the company(transprtation). "we will haul good for this rate, this detention pay if needed, this surcharge, etc". how does the driver in a large company have any control over that. you wanna affect rates. buy your own truck and refuse to haul cheap frieght, stick to your guns.

If I am a big company, with a endless supply of drivers, I ain't paying overtime, pension, sick pay, detention , snowstorm pay, breakdown, and so on. I gona keep all the money and my drivers peanuts.

But if there is Lack of drivers, well I will give them a bigger piece of the pie, because I will have no choice.

[GMAN]

Prices are basically set by the marketplace. The contract between the shipper and carrier has little to do with driver pay. If the carrier cannot hire or retain drivers at a wage that is initially offered, the price or benefits go up until they do. The carrier isn't going to lose money hauling freight, nor is he going to keep an incompetent driver on a critical account. If there were more experienced drivers with good work and driving records, wages would go up. Drivers could make more money by not moving around so much. Those who achieve a higher level of success in this business stay with one employer for several years and prove themselves. Frankly, I think wages are pretty good in most companies.

[COLT]

supply and demand? that is your answer? do yu really have any idea what you are talking about?

Yes, I do know what I'm talking about...

I'm very talented and experienced at what I do, very hard to replace...

High demand for drivers like me, low supply of drivers to replace me... = More $ for me...

Supply and demand, if there were lots of drivers to replace me, they wouldn't have to treat me so well to keep me... Get it yet ?

oh, ok...got it. you should wear a big s.t. on your shirt so i knew ya.

If the carrier cannot hire or retain drivers at a wage that is initially offered, the price or benefits go up until they do.

Unless you have an oversupply of labor, in which case every driver that quits because of low pay and lousy working conditions is replaced by another at a cheaper rate.

If there were more experienced drivers with good work and driving records, wages would go up.

That explains why wages don't go up. Because drivers with experience and good driving records leave for better gigs: private fleets, LTL, fuel-hauling, etc where they can make better money and sleep in their own beds everynight.

Frankly, I think wages are pretty good in most companies.

I made .35 cpm after 1 year with a .01 cpm raise every year thereafter at the last OTR company I worked at. When I run line-haul in LTL, I get .53 cpm (paid for every mile) and I don't have to live in the truck or deal with shippers, receivers, lumpers, etc. I just drop my set (paid extra for this), hook to another (paid extra for this as well), and boogie on down the line towards home.

OTR wages are a joke for the amount of time on the job and all the BS you've got to put up with.