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    Quote Originally Posted by bouncer
    Got the hawtron berry from drugstore.com for 7 bucks any gnc will have them.Great new I went to my dot phyiscal yesterday was so worried.I passed with no problems when they did the bp it was 134/83 so i said that's alittle high right she was like not realy it's about normal for you.I am 6-6 400 pounds.I got a 2 year card I asked if I should get on meds she was like no it's not that high for meds.

    I'm sure you have heard this before but I say it anyway. Drop about 200 lbs. Your blood pressure will fall in line. In addition you won't be looking at a stroke and or heart attack. And I speak from experience -- I had both and I didn't weight any where near what you do.

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    IF I dropped 200 I would be dead I Am a large frame I would like to be at about 275.I can't really see me at 200.I am not 1 of those eagg shaped guys I am just a really big dude.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bouncer
    IF I dropped 200 I would be dead I Am a large frame I would like to be at about 275.I can't really see me at 200.I am not 1 of those eagg shaped guys I am just a really big dude.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bouncer
    IF I dropped 200 I would be dead I Am a large frame I would like to be at about 275.I can't really see me at 200.I am not 1 of those eagg shaped guys I am just a really big dude.


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    Not addressing YOU directly.

    Take a look at: http://www.consumer.gov/weightloss/bmi.htm Run the "Body Mass Index (BMI) Calculator" at the bottom of the page. Then look-up your results in the Risk of Associated Disease According to BMI and Waist Size.

    I would also recommend: http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/publ...tm#limitations

    What you or anyone else decides is your business. All I was trying to say is I had 2 strokes and 2 heart attacks that ended my driving career. In my case the first stroke could have turned out a lot worst. I was in an area where I had no way to get help. Had my stroke affected my brain in any other way I could have died and no one would have known for days. I guess I learned the hard way, and was some what lucky, I now look at my BMI in a totally different way.

    Again, it is your business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bouncer
    Thanks for the info Just recieved the pills any idea how long before I notice a drop in bp.Also still waiting on my background check with CFI.Should be in the OCT 17 class hoping to ethier hear from Chirstine or get the package in the mail soon.Will keep ya posted.
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    Cutting out your salt and caffeine will help. Keep in mind too that those BP machines in the stores are rarely calibrated and are inaccurate. Hopefully are will be well at the doctors office. Good luck.[/quote]

    I just got the pills at Wally World for 4.94 100 pills
    Plus a Rand McNally The Road Atlas for 5.97
    Not covered with plastic.

    Just holding the pills while I took THREE BP Tests on their machine made a difference from last Thur when it was 188/98
    Today
    Test #1 175/91 Arm In The Way The Picture Shows
    Test #2 160/86 Arm In 45 Degrees Different
    Rest #3 161/81 Arm In the way the picture shows

    Still got to get it way down so I can least get a 1 year cert.

    Do they give you a stress test like make you run on a thread mill
    while taking your BP?
    My old friend was put on one and they ran her till the had a heart attack.

    I am sure the machine is not right.

    22 Days and counting

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    na you just sit there.Try and take 1 or 2 deep breaths before you measure and you should see you pb go down alittle.

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    Ok, I've posted this a few times but here goes again. If you want to pass your blood pressure test do the following. If you don't believe it, try it at home first.

    First things first. The reason they don't want you to use salt is that it forces the body to retain water. Most of that water is stored in your veins and arteries. The more fluid in your veins and arteries, the higher your blood pressure. So.....

    The day before your physical stop drinking anything around 5pm and no salt. The next morning no smoking and go for a brisk walk. Working out will lower your blood pressure like lifting weights. You may feel like your head is going to pop off but your blood pressure will go down. Got a home blood pressure machine? Try it?

    Ever see the ad's for Viagra? People with low blood pressure should not take it. Why, because it really lowers your blood pressure. Take one 2 hours before your physical. Worried about something happening down below during the physical? Don't. This stuff doesn't work unless the desire is there so unless your a homo with a male doctor, your all set.

    If you don't believe the above it's a simple experiment you can try at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveBooth
    Ok, I've posted this a few times but here goes again. If you want to pass your blood pressure test do the following. If you don't believe it, try it at home first.

    First things first. The reason they don't want you to use salt is that it forces the body to retain water. Most of that water is stored in your veins and arteries. The more fluid in your veins and arteries, the higher your blood pressure. So.....

    The day before your physical stop drinking anything around 5pm and no salt. The next morning no smoking and go for a brisk walk. Working out will lower your blood pressure like lifting weights. You may feel like your head is going to pop off but your blood pressure will go down. Got a home blood pressure machine? Try it?

    Ever see the ad's for Viagra? People with low blood pressure should not take it. Why, because it really lowers your blood pressure. Take one 2 hours before your physical. Worried about something happening down below during the physical? Don't. This stuff doesn't work unless the desire is there so unless your a homo with a male doctor, your all set.

    If you don't believe the above it's a simple experiment you can try at home.
    The real issue is, if he has legitimate hypertension, he needs to see a doctor. Not taking Viagra. Hypertension is not somehing to be fooled around with. There is no "magic" number to have a stroke with. Plus, the longer you have hypertension, the more damage you do to your kidneys. The damage is not reversible and if it gets bad enough you can end up on dialysis. You can also damage your heart.

    Don't screw around if you have hypertension. Trust me. I worked in EMS and have seen otherwise healthy adults DIE from strokes. I once transported a 30 year old who up until the year before was playing football in the CFL and was in kidney failure because he ignored it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greg3564
    The real issue is, if he has legitimate hypertension, he needs to see a doctor. Not taking Viagra. Hypertension is not somehing to be fooled around with. There is no "magic" number to have a stroke with. Plus, the longer you have hypertension, the more damage you do to your kidneys. The damage is not reversible and if it gets bad enough you can end up on dialysis. You can also damage your heart.

    Don't screw around if you have hypertension. Trust me. I worked in EMS and have seen otherwise healthy adults DIE from strokes. I once transported a 30 year old who up until the year before was playing football in the CFL and was in kidney failure because he ignored it.

    greg3564,

    Don't you just love these would be doctors? Rather than find out why they have high blood pressure they attempt to use some quick fix without knowing what effects it will have.

    As much as doctors like to make money I have yet found one that wouldn't advise getting a handle on high blood pressure.

    kc0iv

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveBooth
    Ok, I've posted this a few times but here goes again. If you want to pass your blood pressure test do the following. If you don't believe it, try it at home first.

    First things first. The reason they don't want you to use salt is that it forces the body to retain water. Most of that water is stored in your veins and arteries. The more fluid in your veins and arteries, the higher your blood pressure. So.....

    The day before your physical stop drinking anything around 5pm and no salt. The next morning no smoking and go for a brisk walk. Working out will lower your blood pressure like lifting weights. You may feel like your head is going to pop off but your blood pressure will go down. Got a home blood pressure machine? Try it?

    Ever see the ad's for Viagra? People with low blood pressure should not take it. Why, because it really lowers your blood pressure. Take one 2 hours before your physical. Worried about something happening down below during the physical? Don't. This stuff doesn't work unless the desire is there so unless your a homo with a male doctor, your all set.

    If you don't believe the above it's a simple experiment you can try at home.
    I think somewhere I have one Viagra pill left. Probably too old to work and the new commercials about it scare me.

    "If it stays hard for more than 4 hours call your DR."

    Hell, if it stayed hard for more then 10 minutes I would have a stroke and just call the Undertaker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greg3564
    Bouncer, you should probably see a doctor. Your diastolic(low number) is high. Too high. Anything over 80 is a cause for concern and should be monitored by a doctor. Even your systolic(high number) is pushing over what is considered healthy now. You are definately in hypertension and possibly need to be on meds. I spent 4 years as an EMT Intermediate in a busy EMS system, although a doctor by no means, you should speak with a doctor. While you may be okay now to pass a DOT physical, your BP rises with age and will need to be addressed soon.

    Here's a chart of what is considered healthy. The threshold for hypertension has been lowered in the last couple of years and what WAS good BP is no longer the case. Good luck and stay safe out there.

    Normal
    Systolic 119 mm Hg or below
    Diastolic 79 mm Hg or below

    Prehypertension
    Systolic 120–139 mm Hg
    Diastolic 80–89 mm Hg

    High blood pressure (hypertension)
    Systolic 140 mm Hg or above
    Diastolic 90 mm Hg or above


    Yeah and in 10 years those numbers will be thought to be in-correct....however no one not even doctors now what exactly constitutes good blood pressure on an individual basis , as good blood pressure is really just a theory as to what is healthy , but that in itself can very person 2 person ...And just because a person is at 119/79 doesn't mean they are not going to have a massive stroke ,and numbers over 139 don't mean a person is ever going to have cardio vascular problems .

    I was told by a doctor a long time ago that the diastolic number is the one that alerts to a heart in distress ,and he gets concerned when the numbers start to get above 90 on the diastolic he also stated the first numbe can just mean you have strong heart ,and if the second number was low he did not get concerned over a relitively hiogh syastolic of 150 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveBooth
    Ok, I've posted this a few times but here goes again. If you want to pass your blood pressure test do the following. If you don't believe it, try it at home first.

    First things first. The reason they don't want you to use salt is that it forces the body to retain water. Most of that water is stored in your veins and arteries. The more fluid in your veins and arteries, the higher your blood pressure. So.....

    The day before your physical stop drinking anything around 5pm and no salt. The next morning no smoking and go for a brisk walk. Working out will lower your blood pressure like lifting weights. You may feel like your head is going to pop off but your blood pressure will go down. Got a home blood pressure machine? Try it?




    Ever see the ad's for Viagra? People with low blood pressure should not take it. Why, because it really lowers your blood pressure. Take one 2 hours before your physical. Worried about something happening down below during the physical? Don't. This stuff doesn't work unless the desire is there so unless your a homo with a male doctor, your all set.

    If you don't believe the above it's a simple experiment you can try at home.

    Did you know that mild dehydration can can cause a rise in blood pressure , as the body compensates for loss of liquid volums by adjusting vascular tension for the lack of liquid volume therefore if you are not carry excess fluid reducing fliud intake could cause rise in blood pressure

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg3564
    Quote Originally Posted by SteveBooth
    Ok, I've posted this a few times but here goes again. If you want to pass your blood pressure test do the following. If you don't believe it, try it at home first.

    First things first. The reason they don't want you to use salt is that it forces the body to retain water. Most of that water is stored in your veins and arteries. The more fluid in your veins and arteries, the higher your blood pressure. So.....

    The day before your physical stop drinking anything around 5pm and no salt. The next morning no smoking and go for a brisk walk. Working out will lower your blood pressure like lifting weights. You may feel like your head is going to pop off but your blood pressure will go down. Got a home blood pressure machine? Try it?

    Ever see the ad's for Viagra? People with low blood pressure should not take it. Why, because it really lowers your blood pressure. Take one 2 hours before your physical. Worried about something happening down below during the physical? Don't. This stuff doesn't work unless the desire is there so unless your a homo with a male doctor, your all set.

    If you don't believe the above it's a simple experiment you can try at home.
    The real issue is, if he has legitimate hypertension, he needs to see a doctor. Not taking Viagra. Hypertension is not somehing to be fooled around with. There is no "magic" number to have a stroke with. Plus, the longer you have hypertension, the more damage you do to your kidneys. The damage is not reversible and if it gets bad enough you can end up on dialysis. You can also damage your heart.

    Don't screw around if you have hypertension. Trust me. I worked in EMS and have seen otherwise healthy adults DIE from strokes. I once transported a 30 year old who up until the year before was playing football in the CFL and was in kidney failure because he ignored it.




    Maybe he had predisposition to kidney problems . I had a friend back when i was 13yrs old that had kidney problems as a result he had high blood pressure his high BP was a result of his bad kidneys .


    Without knowing the full background of that 30yr old foot ball player you are only guessing as to why he had kidney failure it could have been high BP due to pre existing un diagnosed an un-treated kidney problem , And kidney problems can cause a high BP . Not to mention certain substances athletes use are known to be potential danaging to the kidneys ,and is if a genetic predisposition to kidney failure exists then those substances can be very harmfull if used especially if not under supervision of a doctor ...And then you have our good frien Alchohol which is used by manyand is basicly a POISION and harmfull to every living cell in the body ,and if the 30 yr old had a genetic disdposition to kidney problem this substance would be murder on his kidneys .


    Basically there are to many variables for that 30 yr old to llink his bad kidneys to a high BP after all it could have been an un-diagnosed kidney problem at the root of that high BP .

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    My point is don't just ignore it, it isn't going to just go away. And the doctor who told you 150 systolic is just a strong heart needs to go back to medical school. That's just plain lunacy.

    As to the 30 y/o football player. He had hypertension and ignored it for several years and it caught up to him. He, like many before and after, decided to ignore it and was in denial. As a result his career as a football wide receiver was over. His health in shambles and facing dialysis and a transplant.

    I am not a doctor and I don't play one on TV. But I was an EMT Intermediate and went to school for a year for a total of 380 hours in addition to 36 hours every year in cont medical education. I worked in one of the busiest EMS systems in the US and transported approx 3500 patients in four years. Please be careful with your health and don't discount it or you will pay the price later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greg3564
    My point is don't just ignore it, it isn't going to just go away. And the doctor who told you 150 systolic is just a strong heart needs to go back to medical school. That's just plain lunacy.

    As to the 30 y/o football player. He had hypertension and ignored it for several years and it caught up to him. He, like many before and after, decided to ignore it and was in denial. As a result his career as a football wide receiver was over. His health in shambles and facing dialysis and a transplant.

    I am not a doctor and I don't play one on TV. But I was an EMT Intermediate and went to school for a year for a total of 380 hours in addition to 36 hours every year in cont medical education. I worked in one of the busiest EMS systems in the US and transported approx 3500 patients in four years. Please be careful with your health and don't discount it or you will pay the price later.

    What was the cause of the 30 yr olds HYPERTENSION...you stated he had kidney failure could have just had hig BP from his bad kidneys .

    Still you show me where there is definitive proof of what numbers are health for an exact individual as far as blood pressure B/C to my knoledge doctors don't know exact numbers and they have changed over the years as to what is considered ideal ,but to my knowledge are still not set in stone , as they are only theory no set in stone number that guarantress a problem in a certain individual infact I know guys who had what is considered ideal bP who have had all types of cardio vacular problems as well as kidney failure , but had ideal BP .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG JEEP on 44's
    Quote Originally Posted by greg3564
    My point is don't just ignore it, it isn't going to just go away. And the doctor who told you 150 systolic is just a strong heart needs to go back to medical school. That's just plain lunacy.

    As to the 30 y/o football player. He had hypertension and ignored it for several years and it caught up to him. He, like many before and after, decided to ignore it and was in denial. As a result his career as a football wide receiver was over. His health in shambles and facing dialysis and a transplant.

    I am not a doctor and I don't play one on TV. But I was an EMT Intermediate and went to school for a year for a total of 380 hours in addition to 36 hours every year in cont medical education. I worked in one of the busiest EMS systems in the US and transported approx 3500 patients in four years. Please be careful with your health and don't discount it or you will pay the price later.

    What was the cause of the 30 yr olds HYPERTENSION...you stated he had kidney failure could have just had hig BP from his bad kidneys .

    Still you show me where there is definitive proof of what numbers are health for an exact individual as far as blood pressure B/C to my knoledge doctors don't know exact numbers and they have changed over the years as to what is considered ideal ,but to my knowledge are still not set in stone , as they are only theory no set in stone number that guarantress a problem in a certain individual infact I know guys who had what is considered ideal bP who have had all types of cardio vacular problems as well as kidney failure , but had ideal BP .
    Definitive proof doesn't exist. That's why they call it practicing medicine.

    His hypertension was because of certain risk factors. He had a family history and he was african american(who have the highest risk factor of all races).
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    Took BP at wallmart again. I not sure about the machine
    174/95
    166/88
    then went and did my shopping, came back a few minutes later.
    152/83

    Isn't the little number the important one?

    I had alot of coffee this morning and a big ass donut

    Anyway I am 10 days away from starting school in Riverside
    and have the Dr appt on the 10th.
    My recruiter told me if my BP is high when he checks it to get a fast acting BP Pill

    Got to have this under control before I leave for school because I don't want to go all the way down there and fail the test and be sent home.
    They will charge me some bucks for that.
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