Noise restrictions

[Graymist]

On a slightly different tack, I find it absolutely ridiculous that city authorities who have no compunction in prohibiting the use of jakes within city limits, seem to be completely stone-deaf to the massive sonic assault raised by bikers who plough down residential neighbourhoods, creating a massive din. If jakes, which, by no stretch of anyone's imagination can be claimed to be used for the purpose of pleasure, can be banned, why not those bikers, who do it purely for their selfish pleasure without any consideration for the people and homes around them ? Don't get me wrong....i quite like bikes, and own a BMW K1200LT....but it's pretty much silent compared to the other stuff on the roads.

[slowmoe20]

LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES


nuff said

[slowmoe20]

One other thing that works against us truckers, don't get me wrong I love the sound, are the guys who go roaring thru town jake brakes blaring and they have strait pipes. While this sounds very cool you have to admit it is extremely loud.

[inmate1577]

Probably because certain town roads are only available to trucks do to weight and height restrictions. Whereas motorcycles have the option of any road they please you dont have a major jam up of motorcycles on one particular road, whereas you do trucks.

Thats why the restriction on jake brakes and also because trucks travel these roads to get to interstates at all hours of the night , no one likes to hear jake brakes, especially on a flat road when traffic is minimal at late hours.

On the other hand, being I've ridden motorcycles for 25 years, Loud pipes dont save lives, knowing how to ride properly and wearing proper gear at all times........does save lives.

[Uturn2001]

I understand where you are coming from. It does seem like a certain amount of prejudice against trucks.

Sounds like to me the argument here is not that trucks should be allowed to use jakes in town but rather if you are going to have a law due to noise then it should be uniformly applied to all types of vehicles.

[Malaki86]

I understand where you are coming from. It does seem like a certain amount of prejudice against trucks.

Sounds like to me the argument here is not that trucks should be allowed to use jakes in town but rather if you are going to have a law due to noise then it should be uniformly applied to all types of vehicles.

Years ago (too many for me to want to remember) I had a car with a pretty loud exhaust. It was 100% legal, but it was loud. A local cop pulled me over and was standing next to my drivers window in the process of writing me a ticket over it. Of course, I was arguing with him about the fact the exhaust was legal. About that time a bike came past us with the loudest exhaust I'd heard in years. The cop handed my license back and told me to have a nice day.

[rickll]

I understaind completley and I feel all trucks should have jakes mufflers as required in CO. Now a question, if you are going down a hill (in an area that say's no jakes) and loose your brakes are you not going to turn on your jakes? and if you get a ticket would you not fight it?

[Bigmon]

Same reason Illegal Aliens get benefits. Screwed up lawmakers.

[Drew10]

LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES

No they dont

inmate said:

being I've ridden motorcycles for 25 years, Loud pipes dont save lives, knowing how to ride properly and wearing proper gear at all times........does save lives.

I agree 100%, and Ive ridden bikes for almost 30 years. I actually like the sound of the load pipes, however when the bike is ridden irresponsibly and without regard to others thats when they are a problem. Even on the highway load pipe bikes have done more to startle me, when they come up on me at high speed and come flying around me in a blurr. Even the quieter "crotch rocket" ninjas.
Ride responsibly, that will save more lives. Yours especially

I also like the sounds of the unmuffled jakes, My opinion though it took to many Bad apples Jaking trough the cities, to prohibit there use.

Now a question, if you are going down a hill (in an area that say's no jakes) and loose your brakes are you not going to turn on your jakes?

Alot of the "No Jakes" sign will also say "except in emergencies". Even if they dont, I think the city kitties will understand, but they may wonder why you lost your brakes.

[brian]

I never use my jake brake in a town anyway

[inmate1577]

I have used my jakes in a jake restricted zone, it was some place outside Dover or Willmington. Lots of hills and commute traffic to deal with , and it was night
I was willing to take the ticket for that one.

But usually, if it is restricted, I'll turn them off because usually those restrictions come with lower speeds. Just have to be alot more alert and cautious under a heavy load in "no jake" zones.

But being "no jake" zones probably make up a total of about %2 of total driving, its not a big deal for me to comply.

[Uturn2001]

Jakes are only a supplement to your regular brakes and a truck should always be driven as if it does not have any jakes at all.

Many drivers who get into trouble do so because they rely on their jakes to slow them down.

[slowmoe20]

Actually loud pipes do alert motorist to the fact there is a motorcycle nearby. No matter how responsibly the motorcyclist drives and what gear he wears he cannot help the other guy pay attention. People do not see motorcyles as well if they are not paying much attention to what they are doing. Let me find my article and I will try and post it here.

[Doghouse]

I've crossed this country a dozen or more times on a bike, and logged probably 250,000miles in the last 25 years. I've ridden everything from a Goldwing, VFR 1000,Yzf R-1's (3 of these) Ducati Multistrada, and a handful I can't even remember, to my latest Speed Triple.
Some of these bikes were loud, some you couldn't tell when they were running.
I've had people pull out on me on every single bike regardless of how much noise I was making.
The only thing that ever saved my life was riding with the pre- conceived notion that nobody can see me, and they are all going to run me down.
Cagers are all the same, they all make the same moves, they all react the same.
Maybe loud pipes save lives in area where A/C isn't a year round thing, but down here in Heavens waiting room, in the sweltering heat,...these idiots don't even hear sirens from 50 feet away.

[silvan]

If jakes, which, by no stretch of anyone's imagination can be claimed to be used for the purpose of pleasure...

Thinks back to all those times he kicked on the Jake while in one of those tunnels around Virginia Beach, and tries to look innocent

No, no pleasure here. :twisted:

[knightwolf71477]

If jakes, which, by no stretch of anyone's imagination can be claimed to be used for the purpose of pleasure...

Thinks back to all those times he kicked on the Jake while in one of those tunnels around Virginia Beach, and tries to look innocent

No, no pleasure here. :twisted:

Ok I am guilty of this one to. I love the way my jakes sound inside a tunnel. lol. But other than that I only use them to aid in slowing down.

[inmate1577]

Actually loud pipes do alert motorist to the fact there is a motorcycle nearby. No matter how responsibly the motorcyclist drives and what gear he wears he cannot help the other guy pay attention. People do not see motorcyles as well if they are not paying much attention to what they are doing. Let me find my article and I will try and post it here.

You can have the loudest pipes on a bike and roman candles sticking out of your ass...and they wont see you. Relying on loud pipes to save your life is like jumping off the roof with an umbrella, it might work but in the end it wont do a darn thing.
Here's how I ride...
Everyone , except me............is blind. Knowing that everyone is blind keeps me very alert. Probably why going into trucking isnt much differrent from riding a motorcycle.........as far as safety and alertness goes.
You have to just resign yourself to the fact that everyone on the road is wearing blinders and have their windshields painted black.