Results 1 to 17 of 17

Thread: Practical Miles, Hub Miles, HHG Miles, what's the diff?

  1. #1
    BikerDad is offline Rookie
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Fringe of Sanity
    Posts
    49

    Default Practical Miles, Hub Miles, HHG Miles, what's the diff?

    Subject says it all. If somebody would lay out the differences, 'twould be mighty helpful to noobs.

    Respectfully, BD
    It came to pass...

  2.  
  3. #2
    cclarke1268 is offline Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Tool TX
    Posts
    115

    Default

    Practical miles: The miles on the most practical route (what most co now pay)
    Hub : All miles driven even if you get lost miss turn lap around truckstop.
    HHG: hosehold movers guide, zip code to zip code , usually 10% or more less miles than practical
    CJ

  4. #3
    Double R's Avatar
    Double R is offline Food Service Monkey Senior Board Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Posts
    1,658

    Default

    Hub : All miles driven even if you get lost miss turn lap around truckstop.

    For every lap I make, I get paid. Hub miles, the only why to get paid by the mile.
    CERTIFIED NUTS BY THE STATE OF PA


    MY FACEBOOK PAGE

  5. #4
    driver67373 is offline Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Monticello, AR
    Posts
    196

    Default

    Wait, i thought that's what practical miles are: getting paid for every mile you drive.

  6. #5
    BigWheels is offline Senior Board Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Milwaukee, WI
    Posts
    602

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by driver67373
    Wait, i thought that's what practical miles are: getting paid for every mile you drive.
    Nah...practical miles can be defined as getting paid for practically every mile you drive. :lol:
    Anything worth living for is worth dying for.
    - anonymous

  7. #6
    driver67373 is offline Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Monticello, AR
    Posts
    196

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BigWheels
    Quote Originally Posted by driver67373
    Wait, i thought that's what practical miles are: getting paid for every mile you drive.
    Nah...practical miles can be defined as getting paid for practically every mile you drive. :lol:
    LOL :roll: :shock:

  8. #7
    cclarke1268 is offline Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Tool TX
    Posts
    115

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by driver67373
    Wait, i thought that's what practical miles are: getting paid for every mile you drive.
    Nope that would be Hub miles
    Practical mile is calculated on a practical route that is all truck routes from origin to destination and is usually pre determined by your company or broker.
    Hub miles you turn in the miles you drove and they pay on those miles.

    Double R
    You have a good gig there I haven't been paid Hub since the late 80s
    hang on to that one
    CJ

  9. #8
    Cluggy619's Avatar
    Cluggy619 is offline Senior Board Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Granbury, TX
    Posts
    1,261

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by cclarke1268
    Practical miles: The miles on the most practical route (what most co now pay)
    Hub : All miles driven even if you get lost miss turn lap around truckstop.
    HHG: hosehold movers guide, zip code to zip code , usually 10% or more less miles than practical
    And of course, their is the BIG company discount. That usually means what ever miles your company quotes the customer as paid miles, that the amount you get paid. Be sure to ask certain companies about the 10% varience......I won't name any companies shaving miles, but I did find a few runs past that 10%. Something to think about.
    Anyone can learn to drive a truck. Few become truck drivers.

    Deja moo. It's when you feel you have heard this BS before.
    '





  10. #9
    cclarke1268 is offline Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Tool TX
    Posts
    115

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cluggy619

    And of course, their is the BIG company discount. That usually means what ever miles your company quotes the customer as paid miles, that the amount you get paid. Be sure to ask certain companies about the 10% varience......I won't name any companies shaving miles, but I did find a few runs past that 10%. Something to think about.

    So true I guess thats the only discount we get out here
    CJ

  11. #10
    Jackrabbit379's Avatar
    Jackrabbit379 is offline Board Icon
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Wichita Falls,Tx
    Posts
    7,155

    Default

    We go by hub miles. Our trucks have hubometers. Of course, we dont get paid by the mile, just by the hour. :? :P

  12. #11
    Mackman's Avatar
    Mackman is offline Senior Board Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Concordville PA
    Posts
    3,816

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379
    Of course, we dont get paid by the mile, just by the hour. :? :P
    Thats even better then hub miles. 8)
    Truck Driving an occupation consisting of hours of boredom interrupted by sheer terror!!

    "All the coolie carriers suck. Log 70, work 80-100, paid for 50." - the Great ColdFrostyMug



  13. #12
    Uturn2001 is offline Senior Board Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    East Central IL between the corn and the beans
    Posts
    4,982

    Default

    Practical Miles or Practical routed miles= The distance from post office to post office by the most practical truck route.

    HHG or Household Guide= The distance from post office to post office by the absolute shortest route available regardless if it is a truck route.

    Hub Miles= The actual miles a truck travels between destinations.


    ================================================
    Here is a FYI: Just because a company says they pay by PC Miler or Rand Mcnally miles, etc does not mean much of anything by itself. All it means is that they are using a computer program to determine the milage between destinations. They can still be paying you off of HHG miles.
    Finding the right trucking company is like finding the right person to marry. I really comes down to finding one whose BS you can put up with and who can put up wih yours.

  14. #13
    Uturn2001 is offline Senior Board Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    East Central IL between the corn and the beans
    Posts
    4,982

    Default

    Sadly I worked for one company that paid HHG miles to the driver but charged Practical routed miles to their customers.

    I did not stay there long once I found that out. Talk about the big rip.
    Finding the right trucking company is like finding the right person to marry. I really comes down to finding one whose BS you can put up with and who can put up wih yours.

  15. #14
    Jackrabbit379's Avatar
    Jackrabbit379 is offline Board Icon
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Wichita Falls,Tx
    Posts
    7,155

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mackman
    Thats even better then hub miles. 8)
    Yeah, but it would be better if we got paid by the mile, too. :P

  16. #15
    Drew10's Avatar
    Drew10 is offline Senior Board Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    1,859

    Default

    Be sure to ask certain companies about the 10% varience......I won't name any companies shaving miles, but I did find a few runs past that 10%. Something to think about.
    The 10% is a rule of thumb only. It is by no means scientific.

    I have found the greater distance your trip is and the more the interstates or primary highways are along your route the more accurate HHG will be.

    The more irregular you route, away from the interstates, the more inaccurate the trip will be, if you drive the interstate or primary state routes, on your trip.

    Much of the time it is faster to travel major 4 lane limited access roads even though it may be longer in distance from paid miles.

    Some of my trips from Post Office A to Post Office B have been alot less that the 10% rule of thumb. Others may be a little more, just depends on where A and B are in relation to one another. Even had the occassional (rare) trip where my miles driven was less than HHG.

    HHG and Practical are just means of determining the way to pay a driver. Since a company really doesnt know how well to trust a driver to drive the shortest or most practical route on a trip, I can understand why most do not pay hub miles. It would come down to trusting the driver to do the right thing. I do wish they would all switch to practical. Much more appropriate with todays highway system

    Do to many laps around the T/S or get "Lost" to many times you will soon find out how much longer that company will continue to pay you Hub miles.

  17. #16
    Sabine's Avatar
    Sabine is offline Board Regular
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Fredericktown, MO
    Posts
    311

    Default

    I get paid Hub Miles, but I am very honest with my employer. I have gone out of the way to meet a friend and told them to subtract the miles, I will note if there is an out of route due to accidents or construction, and I will run the shortest practical route.
    For Anthony, who was taken from our lives much too young. I love you honey, and I will always miss you.
    ~21 December 1973 - 29 September 2006~

  18. #17
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    nc, close to i-40
    Posts
    173

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Uturn2001
    Sadly I worked for one company that paid HHG miles to the driver but charged Practical routed miles to their customers.

    I did not stay there long once I found that out. Talk about the big rip.
    We get routed by P C Miler (pratical miles), but get paid hhg. So even if we do exactly what the route says, we still get paid for less miles. When I get a load while at the terminal, they give me a trip sheet with the load info, has the first stop, last stop, directions, pick up and delivery times, even the total number of miles. And the total miles will be very close to what I actually drive, but when I get paid, it is usually about 5% less than than what is on the trip sheet!. I always feel ripped off.

  19. This ad will disappear if you login

 




Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1