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    Just wondering if someone could show me an real world example of a dispatch in terms of mileage , location and time of departure/arrival dates.

    Need it for an experiment i'am conducting with Streets and Trips. I want to see how accurate my trip planning skills are with. I'am about to start with a major carrier and i wanted to get a real world start on things in terms of trip planning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbieTrucker
    Just wondering if someone could show me an real world example of a dispatch in terms of mileage , location and time of departure/arrival dates.

    Need it for an experiment i'am conducting with Streets and Trips. I want to see how accurate my trip planning skills are with. I'am about to start with a major carrier and i wanted to get a real world start on things in terms of trip planning.

    I’m really not trying to be smart, but really, just open your map. Point A is where you start from, and point B is where you will end up. It’s not hard. Start out with the US map page in the front of your map, then use the individual state pages when needed. I don’t know how I ever made it across the country without a computer or any mapping programs all these years, 30 to be exact….lol Don’t make it any harder than it is!!!
    I used to take my kids 1 at a time in the summers, and they would always want to tell me how we should go to where ever we went, and 9 out of 10 times they were right on the mark. They did this at the age of around 5, yes they could read a map!!!!...lol and so should YOU!!!

    PS: dont forget your math, that will answer some of your questions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssoutlaw
    PS: dont forget your math, that will answer some of your questions!
    "PUT THAT $1.27 BACK IN YOUR WALLET AND JUST GIVE ME THE $20. I ALREADY PUNCHED THE BUTTONS INTO MY CASH REGISTER, AND IF YOU TRY TO GIVE ME THAT $1.27 I'M GOING TO THROW IT IN YOUR FACE." --Actual quote from a McDonald's cashier

    Math hasn't been taught since the dark ages, so you must be old.

    (I'm in the middle. I learned how to plan a trip by hand, but I prefer to use a computer, because I'm a lazy bastard. My computer planned trips are usually pretty accurate after I manually tweak the route the way I want it.)

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    Also easier to keep the atlas on the dash when you need to take a quick look to make sure your going in the right direction than to get your laptop out. I will use both though, I see what the computer says and then plan it out in the atlas. But most of the time the directions and what roads to take are right on my pay card so if I know the roads I just go and leave the atlas and computer packed in the suitcase.

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    Pickup Friday at 8 am Chicago, IL

    Deliver at 8 am Monday in Ontario, CA.
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    Here is another one:

    Pickup Friday at 8 am in Dallas, Tx

    Deliver 8 am Monday is Seattle, Wa

    2200 miles.

    BTW The Chicago to Ontario trip is 1980 miles.
    Finding the right trucking company is like finding the right person to marry. I really comes down to finding one whose BS you can put up with and who can put up wih yours.

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    Ok this is your dispatcher
    "I have a load for you picking up in Chicago,IL 1/2 from now at 3pm local time on Fri.,it has 3 stops,the first in Phoenix,AZ that delivers on Mon at 2pm local time,2nd stop in Los Angeles,CA and final in Sacramento,CA,what time should I make your other delivery times for?"

    I have the answers,I'll be waiting.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by silvan
    "PUT THAT $1.27 BACK IN YOUR WALLET AND JUST GIVE ME THE $20. I ALREADY PUNCHED THE BUTTONS INTO MY CASH REGISTER, AND IF YOU TRY TO GIVE ME THAT $1.27 I'M GOING TO THROW IT IN YOUR FACE." --Actual quote from a McDonald's cashier
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike3fan
    Ok this is your dispatcher
    "I have a load for you picking up in Chicago,IL 1/2 from now at 3pm local time on Fri.,it has 3 stops,the first in Phoenix,AZ that delivers on Mon at 2pm local time,2nd stop in Los Angeles,CA and final in Sacramento,CA,what time should I make your other delivery times for?"

    I have the answers,I'll be waiting.....
    How late is the reciver in LA and SAC open untill???...lol
    Tues early am then late tues afternoon.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssoutlaw
    Quote Originally Posted by mike3fan
    Ok this is your dispatcher
    "I have a load for you picking up in Chicago,IL 1/2 from now at 3pm local time on Fri.,it has 3 stops,the first in Phoenix,AZ that delivers on Mon at 2pm local time,2nd stop in Los Angeles,CA and final in Sacramento,CA,what time should I make your other delivery times for?"

    I have the answers,I'll be waiting.....
    How late is the reciver in LA and SAC open untill???...lol
    Tues early am then late tues afternoon.....
    it's not fair to the students if the teachers answer the questions for them.... 8)
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    I never said i didnt know how to use a map or do basic math functions i was just trying to do a trip plan using a map and using my streets and trips and see how close or accurate the program comes to the atlas when planning a trip.
    I know that there are obvious routes that you have to tweak with Streets and Trips due to Motor Carrier restriction with STAA-authorized dimensions which you have to use the atlas for. The only draw back to the atlas is its not detailed.
    Also with Streets and trips you can calculate how long and when you will get to a certain destination such as a truck stop or other POI so that you will be able to know how long you should be there and when you should be leaving , that way you don't come up short on your trip time once you reach your destination. While all that sounds good it may or may not make a differrence in the real world but its better than having non plan at all!

    Now i'am not trying to sound like i'am a know it all or anything like that ,but i would say its better to get good at this stuff in more than one way would'nt you agree!

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    Default Re: trip planning test

    Quote Originally Posted by newbieTrucker
    Just wondering if someone could show me an real world example of a dispatch in terms of mileage , location and time of departure/arrival dates.

    Need it for an experiment i'am conducting with Streets and Trips. I want to see how accurate my trip planning skills are with. I'am about to start with a major carrier and i wanted to get a real world start on things in terms of trip planning.
    Perhaps Newbie Trucker needs a few examples.

    It's been awhile since I've been OTR (skills are a little rusty).

    How 'bout it guys. Use an example and walk us through it.
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    Ok doesn't get much more "real world" than this it's my current trip.

    I was dispatched on Fri of last week,load picks up in Detroit anytime on Tues.(preloaded) delivers on Thur. morning in Corwith,MS at 8am central time.

    How would you run it and what routes would you take and what times would you leave to deliver on time?

    I will tell you how I am running it after you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike3fan
    Ok this is your dispatcher
    "I have a load for you picking up in Chicago,IL 1/2 from now at 3pm local time on Fri.,it has 3 stops,the first in Phoenix,AZ that delivers on Mon at 2pm local time,2nd stop in Los Angeles,CA and final in Sacramento,CA,what time should I make your other delivery times for?"

    I have the answers,I'll be waiting.....
    Good response! Someone actually gave him a challenge

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbieTrucker
    I never said i didnt know how to use a map or do basic math functions i was just trying to do a trip plan using a map and using my streets and trips and see how close or accurate the program comes to the atlas when planning a trip.
    I know that there are obvious routes that you have to tweak with Streets and Trips due to Motor Carrier restriction with STAA-authorized dimensions which you have to use the atlas for. The only draw back to the atlas is its not detailed.
    Also with Streets and trips you can calculate how long and when you will get to a certain destination such as a truck stop or other POI so that you will be able to know how long you should be there and when you should be leaving , that way you don't come up short on your trip time once you reach your destination. While all that sounds good it may or may not make a differrence in the real world but its better than having non plan at all!

    Now i'am not trying to sound like i'am a know it all or anything like that ,but i would say its better to get good at this stuff in more than one way would'nt you agree!
    As far as the Planning to fit in with the miles paid for a load all pending on method of miles the company uses. HHG Miles or Practical Miles. HHG Miles are shortest. Practical miles are Short than what it really will end up but I also heard stories of some making it there with less miles driven. Rare I'll say if true. If your withing 10 to 100 miles of the distance your doing good, pending on the distance of the load..

    Of course you know there a section in the truckers atlas that tells you which roads per states has restrictions on. (Low Bridges etc)

    When your planning your trips, need to plan where you intend to stop at, but also be flexible. You will get delayed, due to road Construction, wrecks and everyday Traffic jams.. As you are out ther driving you will learn when to travel certain Cities and when to avoid them. Example, I always attempted to hit Atlanta during the Night around 2 to 3 AM, even then you may get caught in a Bumper to Bumper traffic Jam, Happened to me but only in one smalll area due to Night Road Construction..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uturn2001
    Here is another one:

    Pickup Friday at 8 am in Dallas, Tx

    Deliver 8 am Monday is Seattle, Wa

    2200 miles.

    BTW The Chicago to Ontario trip is 1980 miles.
    Hey, I have done tht Dallas/Seattle run - its fun - 3 possible routes - all within a few miles of each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike3fan
    Quote Originally Posted by ssoutlaw
    Quote Originally Posted by mike3fan
    Ok this is your dispatcher
    "I have a load for you picking up in Chicago,IL 1/2 from now at 3pm local time on Fri.,it has 3 stops,the first in Phoenix,AZ that delivers on Mon at 2pm local time,2nd stop in Los Angeles,CA and final in Sacramento,CA,what time should I make your other delivery times for?"

    I have the answers,I'll be waiting.....
    How late is the reciver in LA and SAC open untill???...lol
    Tues early am then late tues afternoon.....
    it's not fair to the students if the teachers answer the questions for them.... 8)

    Sorry I forgot to raise my hand...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawn
    Quote Originally Posted by mike3fan
    Ok this is your dispatcher
    "I have a load for you picking up in Chicago,IL 1/2 from now at 3pm local time on Fri.,it has 3 stops,the first in Phoenix,AZ that delivers on Mon at 2pm local time,2nd stop in Los Angeles,CA and final in Sacramento,CA,what time should I make your other delivery times for?"

    I have the answers,I'll be waiting.....
    Good response! Someone actually gave him a challenge

    Yea, but I screwed it up...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike3fan
    Ok this is your dispatcher
    "I have a load for you picking up in Chicago,IL 1/2 from now at 3pm local time on Fri.,it has 3 stops,the first in Phoenix,AZ that delivers on Mon at 2pm local time,2nd stop in Los Angeles,CA and final in Sacramento,CA,what time should I make your other delivery times for?"

    I have the answers,I'll be waiting.....
    That would be an 36 hour drive time , a 66 hour trip time ( because you add the mandatory 10 hour for every 11 driving and you can break that up how you like) and 1806 miles . From Phoenix,AZ to Los Angeles,CA is 7 hours which needs no DOT break and is 370 miles so i would make the appointment for 10pm Mon, but can legally make at 9pm, Then i would rest from 12- 6am Tue. From Los Angeles,CA to Sacramento,CA is 8 hours also no DOT break needed (dependant upon the driver) and is 387 miles so i would make the appointment for 3pm , can legally make at 2pm .
    while all these figures are just estimates i know that more then the afore mentioned can happen in a day in the life of a trucker, but hopefully i got a good grade on this one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbieTrucker
    Quote Originally Posted by mike3fan
    Ok this is your dispatcher
    "I have a load for you picking up in Chicago,IL 1/2 from now at 3pm local time on Fri.,it has 3 stops,the first in Phoenix,AZ that delivers on Mon at 2pm local time,2nd stop in Los Angeles,CA and final in Sacramento,CA,what time should I make your other delivery times for?"

    I have the answers,I'll be waiting.....
    That would be an 36 hour drive time , a 66 hour trip time ( because you add the mandatory 10 hour for every 11 driving and you can break that up how you like) and 1806 miles . From Phoenix,AZ to Los Angeles,CA is 7 hours which needs no DOT break and is 370 miles so i would make the appointment for 10pm Mon, but can legally make at 9pm, Then i would rest from 12- 6am Tue. From Los Angeles,CA to Sacramento,CA is 8 hours also no DOT break needed (dependant upon the driver) and is 387 miles so i would make the appointment for 3pm , can legally make at 2pm .
    while all these figures are just estimates i know that more then the afore mentioned can happen in a day in the life of a trucker, but hopefully i got a good grade on this one!
    Are you sure you would want to make the 2nd appointment that close to the first what if you are delayed in delivery,why not get the second off first thing Tues. and then Early eve. Tues for third,that way no stress on Mon trying to make it into L.A with traffic and delays.I know you end up in the same place around the same time but,consider the places that you are going when trying to cut deliveries close.
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