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    If you had the will to be a trainer, wich company would be your choice and why? Wich ones would give the trainer adequate amount of flexibility and potential for pay? I would probably run as team some, but wouldnt wanna rely on that to get a good check. Is there one thatll pay you the same no matter how many miles are run? Flexibility to choose and deny loads? Is 2 years exp. enough to be a trainer for that company?

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    IMO, in a perfect world a trainer would be paid a salary and little emphasis would be put on the number of miles they run. It should not be about revenue. Maybe add an incentive that gives them extra cpm for every mile a trainee runs in their first year.

    Two years experience should probably be the least amount, 5 years would probably be even better. In this day and age we have trainers who have 6 months expereince and two students running team in a truck basically teaching themselves so given that, 2 years wouldn't be bad.
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    Well, Thanks for the response- Im surprised noone wants to speak up and give me some insight....Im pretty sure the experience will be vastly different as a trainer for a company than as a company driver...

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    well my trainer I had at FFE made almost $100,000 in a year.... so thats good, and I think to be a trainer, you need to go solo for 6 months with no accidents or violations and you can be training... after 6 months you can lease a truck with $0.00 down, they take 1 or 2 cents per mile for a year for the down.... so other companies that are large might be simular, dunno for sure.....
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    No offense to anyone, but 6 months is not long enough to become a trainer. At 6 months you are still learning yourself! I think that 5 years of constant employment as an OTR driver would be a good starting place!
    I think the driving force behind being a trainer for most people is they want extra money for someone else doing the work. I think trainers should want to help drivers learn the correct way and not how much extra money they can make. In my opinion, a trainer should be an older and more seasoned driver that wants to slow down a little and can take the time to teach correctly!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssoutlaw
    No offense to anyone, but 6 months is not long enough to become a trainer. At 6 months you are still learning yourself! I think that 5 years of constant employment as an OTR driver would be a good starting place!
    I think the driving force behind being a trainer for most people is they want extra money for someone else doing the work. I think trainers should want to help drivers learn the correct way and not how much extra money they can make. In my opinion, a trainer should be an older and more seasoned driver that wants to slow down a little and can take the time to teach correctly!!
    NOONE in this thread said they had only 6 mos. experience and I think this conversation you are having was had and is being held in other threads. This thread is about companies that are best for trainers.



    US Express told me after 3 mos of going solo I can be certified as a trainer, pay runs from 32 cpm to 42 (?)cpm Rand Mcnally HHG :x miles depending on length of run. Grr they will run you as a team. Add. perks are a stipend of $20/day for training and a graduation bonus of $200 to $350 after an average of 21 days training. Hmmm...

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    No offense to anyone, but 6 months is not long enough to become a trainer. At 6 months you are still learning yourself! I think that 5 years of constant employment as an OTR driver would be a good starting place!
    I think the driving force behind being a trainer for most people is they want extra money for someone else doing the work. I think trainers should want to help drivers learn the correct way and not how much extra money they can make. In my opinion, a trainer should be an older and more seasoned driver that wants to slow down a little and can take the time to teach correctly!!
    NOONE in this thread said they had only 6 mos. experience and I think this conversation you are having was had and is being held in other threads. This thread is about companies that are best for trainers.



    US Express told me after 3 mos of going solo I can be certified as a trainer, pay runs from 32 cpm to 42 (?)cpm Rand Mcnally HHG :x miles depending on length of run. Grr they will run you as a team. Add. perks are a stipend of $20/day for training and a graduation bonus of $200 to $350 after an average of 21 days training. Hmmm...


    I think you need to read the other posters on this thread, then what I said will make sense to you!!!
    Now for your 3 months experience and being a trainer at US, talking about the blind leading the blind...lol
    This thread like I said sums up to, people just wanting the best money to train. What about sharing your experience ( which 3 months is not experience anyway) with someone who needs it! This thread is about MONEY, not training, PERIOD!!! Now go back and read my post, and stop trying to scold me for my post!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssoutlaw
    I think the driving force behind being a trainer for most people is they want extra money for someone else doing the work. I think trainers should want to help drivers learn the correct way and not how much extra money they can make. In my opinion, a trainer should be an older and more seasoned driver that wants to slow down a little and can take the time to teach correctly!!
    Well said! 8)
    What people fail to realise, that "training", isn't supposed to be about how to drive(technically), cause that trainee already got his licence.
    It should be more about perks and "wisdom" of the driving!

    Most folks, after 2-3 years, are pretty good in handling "technical" part, but very few, at that "driving age" have "wisdom of the road"
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    Quote Originally Posted by solo379
    Quote Originally Posted by ssoutlaw
    I think the driving force behind being a trainer for most people is they want extra money for someone else doing the work. I think trainers should want to help drivers learn the correct way and not how much extra money they can make. In my opinion, a trainer should be an older and more seasoned driver that wants to slow down a little and can take the time to teach correctly!!
    Well said! 8)
    What people fail to realise, that "training", isn't supposed to be about how to drive(technically), cause that trainee already got his licence.
    It should be more about perks and "wisdom" of the driving!

    Most folks, after 2-3 years, are pretty good in handling "technical" part, but very few, at that "driving age" have "wisdom of the road"
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    OK- I have plenty of experience driving Trucks and have teamed and trained before too, so Im trying to find out which company would be best for ME as stated in the title of the thread.

    Dryvan, that is!

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    OK- I have plenty of experience driving Trucks and have teamed and trained before too, so Im trying to find out which company would be best for ME as stated in the title of the thread.

    Dryvan, that is!

    If you find a company GOOD enough to work for, then there training positions cant be that bad!!! I still think what you are asking is which company's pay the most to be a trainer, either way I believe it has been answered in 1 way or another....

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    Well DUH! Look at the title of the thread! If its best for me, the money's gotta be right!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssoutlaw
    No offense to anyone, but 6 months is not long enough to become a trainer. At 6 months you are still learning yourself! I think that 5 years of constant employment as an OTR driver would be a good starting place!
    I think the driving force behind being a trainer for most people is they want extra money for someone else doing the work. I think trainers should want to help drivers learn the correct way and not how much extra money they can make. In my opinion, a trainer should be an older and more seasoned driver that wants to slow down a little and can take the time to teach correctly!!
    What's the purpose of having years of experience if they just sit in the berth? That's what I'm reading on CAD anyway. 6 months is plenty of time to sit in the back and watch from there. (sarcasm)

    A little more serious now. How many trainers have 5+ years of experience. Why would someone with that much time want the hassle of training when they should already be making pretty good money?

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    Hmmmmm .. what evidence / research out there that says you need 2 - or 5 years to be a successful trainer?

    Just to shake up this thread .. the typical pilot school (I am not talking about your local Fixed Base Operator but a school like ATP, PanAm, or American Eagle) turns out a Flight Instructor in much less than 6 months. These instructors teach the next class to get hours and experience to get a job at your local commuter airline. Are you saying there is much more to trucking than teach somebody to fly an airplane full of passengers?

    Second point .. experience does not mean you know how to instruct.

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    That is a good shake up! I am a current private pilot working on the instrument right now. I am 29 and every instructor is younger than me! While most during the three years that I have been flying have moved on to the regional airlines at the ripe ole age of 24! You are so right about experience and the ability to instruct I could not agree more. It is funny how the aviation field works that way too. But, in this case the CFI's are the lowest paid in the industry and they are given the task to train tomorrows airline pilots.

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    This is one of those "it depends" questions. Do you as a trainer expect to actually TRAIN a driver or are you one of the new breed Driver Trainers where you insist the student wake you if "anything goes wrong". There are VERY few companies anymore who do not use the farcical "team training" scam. The team training is basically a means for the company to get freight moved cheaply, to cover their overall poor performance as a fleet (using these "teams" to cover for lazy and stupid solo drivers who cannot seem to ever deliver on time) and to get their truck back when and if the new driver decides to "jump ship" go back home .

    In no other career field will you see an instructor sleep while the student learns by themselves and still call it being trained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fozzy
    This is one of those "it depends" questions. Do you as a trainer expect to actually TRAIN a driver or are you one of the new breed Driver Trainers where you insist the student wake you if "anything goes wrong". There are VERY few companies anymore who do not use the farcical "team training" scam. The team training is basically a means for the company to get freight moved cheaply, to cover their overall poor performance as a fleet (using these "teams" to cover for lazy and stupid solo drivers who cannot seem to ever deliver on time) and to get their truck back when and if the new driver decides to "jump ship" go back home .

    In no other career field will you see an instructor sleep while the student learns by themselves and still call it being trained.

    We dont agree much fozzy, but you called this one right...lol

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    Yeah, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while... :wink:

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    I agree with the others, 5 years is the bare minimum where I'd trust a trainer. At six months you havn't even backed up enough to teach others, much less driven on the black ice, strong winds in the plains, driven all the grades, messed up and gotten yourself out of those mess ups, etc. 2 years is alright but I'd still be a little uncomfortable. Whenever I get by a terminal I tell all the students the same thing. Ask thier mentor/instructor how much time they have behind a wheel and that I'd stick with someone with 5+ yrs behind the wheel. Mabe I'm undermining my companies mentor program but I'm getting sick and tired of seeing new drivers that can barely drive a truck and have no idea about simple things like scaleing a load or curtosies like turning thier lights off so that other driver backing into a spot isn't blinded by your headlights, or they are to scared to GET OUT AND LOOK, shesh. many other things I can think of but not goinna turn this into a two page post, lol.

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