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Thread: 13 speed transmission shift pattern

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    Default can you explain.....

    I know you can with all your knowledge...
    JUST -by LOOKING at the pattern (pictured) of the eaton 13 speed, it doesnt look as if you GET 13 spds, please explain so my girly friend can sleep at night. thanks a

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    Default Re: can you explain.....

    Quote Originally Posted by armadillo
    I know you can with all your knowledge...
    JUST -by LOOKING at the pattern (pictured) of the eaton 13 speed, it doesnt look as if you GET 13 spds, please explain so my girly friend can sleep at night. thanks a
    When you split the high gears, 5-8, you get 8 gears (5 low, 5 high, 6 low, 6 high and so on)
    Add to that gears 1-4 on the plus the "Low" gear, you get 13 total speeds. It's actually more of a 12+1 transmission.
    You can take the driver out of the truck but you cant take the truck out of the driver.

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    Default ok well....

    this isnt Arm, this is the friend asking...

    I dont drive but I was wondering how you get to the high 5,6,7,8 once you click over to reg 5,6,7, ? my friend says its for different road conditions is when you use it. But confused about how to get to "high" once you shift over. I guess if I drove I would understand??? Kelly

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    Default Re: ok well....

    Quote Originally Posted by armadillo
    this isnt Arm, this is the friend asking...

    I dont drive but I was wondering how you get to the high 5,6,7,8 once you click over to reg 5,6,7, ? my friend says its for different road conditions is when you use it. But confused about how to get to "high" once you shift over. I guess if I drove I would understand??? Kelly
    You flip the thumb "splitter" switch on the shift knob. On here it's the red switch.



    Push it forward to split from low to high. Push it rearward to split from high to low. When you split the gears, you don't shift the lever, just use the splitter button. However, in a 13 speed, the splitter button needs to be in low before you range shift into low range (gears 1-4).
    You can take the driver out of the truck but you cant take the truck out of the driver.

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    say if you are already thru all the gears why do you split? maybe that is where Im lost. What is the other switch on that knob (black one) ? Kelly

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    Default Re: can you explain.....

    Quote Originally Posted by armadillo
    I know you can with all your knowledge...
    JUST -by LOOKING at the pattern (pictured) of the eaton 13 speed, it doesnt look as if you GET 13 spds, please explain so my girly friend can sleep at night. thanks a
    You do have 13 forward gears on the 13 speed!
    On the low side, you have a 5 speed pattern, where 1st is low gear.
    When you split to high you are using a 4 speed pattern and don't use the low gear position again.

    So you have 1 - 5 on the low side.
    4 gears in direct.
    4 gears in overdrive.
    For a grand total of 13 forward gears!

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    Quote Originally Posted by armadillo
    say if you are already thru all the gears why do you split? maybe that is where Im lost. What is the other switch on that knob (black one) ? Kelly

    The black switch is the Low - High range selector.
    The red thumb switch is the direct - overdrive selector.
    When you shift through the 5 low gears, you then raise the black range selector then start shifting the same 5 speed pattern but you forget the 1st gear slot and instead use the second gear slot, now this will be 6Th gear. when you shift to 7Th you simply move the red selector to the right. Now to go to 8Th, shift the gearshift straight down and at the same time move the red selector to the left and repeat this action. Its harder in IMO to tell you how to do this, than it is to do it...lol Look at the plate picture the other poster posted it will show you exactly how to shift this transmission.

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    Ok lets start with a typical 9 speed.

    Start in low, making sure the range change switch, the larger black one, is in the down position, or low.

    Shift lever to 1st,

    Shift lever to second,

    Shift lever to third,

    shift lever to 4th,

    and just before you shift again, you pull the range change switch to the high position, then shift into the 1st position again, which is now 5th,

    then shift to 6th,

    then to 7th,

    and finally to 8th.

    While it's called a 9 speed it's more like an 8 speed plus low.


    Now with a 13 speed.

    Start in low, making sure the range change switch is in the low position and the red splitter button is in the rearward position.

    Shift lever to 1st,

    Shift lever to second,

    Shift lever to third,

    shift lever to 4th,

    and just before you shift again, you pull the range change switch, the larger black one to the high position, then shift into the 1st position again, which is now 5th.

    With the red button in the rearward position, you are in 5th low.

    To get 5th high, you move the red button forward, release the accelerator and let the RPM's match until it shifts into 5th high.

    Before shifting into 6th, move the red button to the rear and move the lever into 6th, this is now 6th low.

    To get 6th high, you move the button forward, release the accelerator and let the rpms match until it shifts into 6th high.

    Before shifting into 7th, move the red button to the rear and move the lever into 7th. this is now 7th low.

    To get 7th high, you move the button forward, release the accelerator and let the rpms match until it shifts into 7th high.

    Before shifting into 8th, move the red button to the rear and move the lever into into 8th, this is now 8th low.

    To get 8th high, you move the button forward, release the accelerator and let the rpms match until it shifts into 8th high.


    You DON'T move the shift lever to shift betwen the 5-8 low and high gears, you shift with the splitter button.


    Thats how you get 13 speeds.
    You can take the driver out of the truck but you cant take the truck out of the driver.

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    Why confuse him with the 8 +1 and the 12 + 1!
    These transmissions are 13 and 9 forward gears!

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    Default whoa

    WOW, im sticking with my vw bug. My boyfirend was going to try to teach me but im not that excited about it now. that looks crazy !! thanks for leting me try to comprehend it though very nice teachers.!!!KELLY

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    Its not that hard, belive it or not. You can drive it like an 8-speed if you really want, then adapt to splitting the uppers as needed.

    If you drive a stick bug, think of it like this-

    1,2,3 are normal, but lets say you have a 4, 4.5, 5, and 5.5 as well.

    So, lets say you are in 5th, and don't necessarily want/need 4th- well, you can go into 4.5 (in between 4 and 5) or you can still go into 4th if you desire. Its literally the flip of a button, and looks a LOT more intimidating than it seems.
    Mud, sweat, and gears

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    Default low/high ?

    Do you always "have to" use low/high or just in the hills or different driving conditions- I live in the hills?? Or if you are going down freeway just stay on one side? huh will I confuse myself more by asking that? well see ahaha

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    Default Re: low/high ?

    Quote Originally Posted by armadillo
    Do you always "have to" use low/high or just in the hills or different driving conditions- I live in the hills?? Or if you are going down freeway just stay on one side? huh will I confuse myself more by asking that? well see ahaha
    You can use it at any time but it would really be useful in the hills. But for most driving you can probably skip splitting each gear until you get to 8th, then split to 8th high when cruising.

    For example: Eaton discourages extended cruising in 8th low because that position sends the power through two sets of gears (0.73 overdrive in the main box and a 1.17 underdrive splitter gear) and having the transmission run through both gear sets can generate excessive heat.
    You can take the driver out of the truck but you cant take the truck out of the driver.

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    Default Re: low/high ?

    Quote Originally Posted by armadillo
    Do you always "have to" use low/high or just in the hills or different driving conditions- I live in the hills?? Or if you are going down freeway just stay on one side? huh will I confuse myself more by asking that? well see ahaha
    The bottom line with this or any other type of transmission is that at any given road speed you must use the proper gear to keep your engine RPM's in the proper operating range.
    If you can't shift it smoothly, you shouldn't be driving it.

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    Default Re: whoa

    Quote Originally Posted by armadillo
    WOW, im sticking with my vw bug. My boyfirend was going to try to teach me but im not that excited about it now. that looks crazy !! thanks for leting me try to comprehend it though very nice teachers.!!!KELLY
    Its not a hard as it looks, its harder to explain though...lol

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    Default oh ok well Ill try it ... one day.

    Thanks so much, for your time. Kelly and arm.

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